This is just miscellaneous research that I will bring back to the referee forum. would you ever purposely use your cleats to assault another player and why? Please answer truthfully.
In almost 30 years playing I've only played against one douche bag who would step on you and rake you with his cleats at every opportunity. I think the LOTJ eventually caught up with him.
I would say no, but most players (including me) would do something in the heat of the moment they never planned on. If I'm being repeatedly hacked by a man-marker (a la Maradona in 1982) and the referee does nothing to stop it, I would consider it. The vast majority of refs don't allow this type of thing anymore, but I would choose seeing red for a match or two to receiving a career-ending foul.
I hate when anyone starts the "use your studs!" crap or "take her out!". Just play harder. I can't stand the ones who swear at everyone for every little thing, or teams that badger the ref constantly. They just end up looking like idiots. If someone swung a fist at me I might react though! My attitude is to just go out and play, if the other team is annoyed enough to start swearing and resorting to dirty play then I'm obviously doing my job well.
Easier said that done bruh In all honesty...I cleat the shit out of people and not there feet either...only ever gotten 1 red card for it. I don't start sh*t but I finish it.
Honestly, the more I play the more I think I'm in the minority and that maybe I'm just seriously laid back. Anger never gets channeled into physical retaliation, I play better when annoyed.
why do you ask? i could understand the question if a lot of players were suffering serious injury because of intentional cleating. but i don't really see it happening much if at all, so it seems like a weird question. btw, for everyone else, the poll is not anonymous (even if your user-id is).
Is this a poll about making bad tackles? i.e. cleats digging into another players ankle, foot or leg? The thing about these tackles is that it's avoidable in most cases. The players who makes the bad tackle takes a risk and ends up making a mistake. Instead of staying on their feet and containing the opponent he/she goes for the ball. Curious how bad tackles are usually made outside the box. Not in a goal scoring situation.
my old coach advised us that when being man marked step on their foot to instigate a fight...then when the other guy retaliates you can tell the referee that the guy punched you or swore, ..etc. So he gets a yellow or better yet a red car.
What a great coach you had... of the many things to teach about the game he takes time to teach you that.
I've actually cleated myself more than I've accidentally cleated someone else. Granted, that could be the fact that I'm a goalie, but still. Even when I play any other position, I've never cleated someone.
If someone is assaulting me or my teammates I usually get angry and just try and send them a message anyway I can. Sometimes that means a hard tackle, stepping on their foot, or possibly checking them. I tend to do this too much though...
...they are thrown out of the match. If someone tried to play me physically, then I played them physically. Playing someone "physically" simply means beating them with strength and size instead of skill. After a little physical play, they always backed down. Usually people don't try it because I looked very solid and strong. At high levels, players cannot be effective unless they are strong. Being skilled is never enough. In fact it took me several years before I realized that opponent's tended to play fairer in my area of the field. The same players would not try stuff around me that they were routinely doing elsewhere on the field. In those days we weren't as free to move about as today so I didn't find out what was happening until talking to teammates after the match. Giving your attacking players freedom to move around is a great way to avoid physical mismatches.
I have done, sometimes it has to be done, I prefer to go in fairly though. The higher you go in the game, the more you'll notice (as a defender anyway) that people will always stand on your feet. Just part of the game. My feet are ********ed from it.
Oh. Defenders do that on purpose?? I thought all of them were just clumsy... that's why they're defenders.
I was gonna say no but I'd be lying. If I feel like you're routinely sliding in reckless with intent then when I jump to avoid the tackle I'll try and purposely land on your feet/ankle/legs with my studs. I'm not a dirty player though, I never go in with the intention of hurting someone and if an opposing player got me that heated I'd rather just throw hands.
Where do you play where someone is allowed to "routinely" make cardable tackles? This simply doesn't happen in sanctioned matches. I play alot outside of sanctioned matches too, and we wouldn't let someone like that on the field. In fact we don't let anyone in a pickup game that we think might make even 1 reckless slide tackle innocently, much less maliciously. There are too many injuries with people playing fairly. A lot of players will get upset if someone does a lot of fair slide tackling outside of a competitive match. But there are acceptable ways of dealing with these situations. Jumping on someone is not one of them. Not to mention its a straight red card offense.
By routine I mean, more than once over the course of a mtach. I'm not speaking on cardable tackles, I'm speaking on cardable tackles that also involve malicious intent. It certainly happens in sanctioned matches, maybe not every match but it happens. I've never been carded for landing on an opponent (not that I can even remember last time it might have happened). The way I look at it, if you're coming in recklessly, mindlessly, maliciously etc you're obviously not too worried about my safety and I'm more than willing to return the favor. I simply don't feel obligated to avoid you on my way down after you just tried to take me out. Pick up games are a completely different story. Personally I don't believe in slide tackling in pick up games, fair or otherwise, so I just don't do it. A clear cut example of doing too much imo. It's not a big issue for me though, most pick up guys aren't good enough tacklers to get me and if you win the ball fairly it is what it is. I'd prefer that you not slide but I'm not gonna say anything about it. I take pick up very casually I can't imagine ever trying to hurt someone in a pick up game.
Defenders do it to worry attackers. Strikers should do it if a defender is unnecessarily fouling. End of.