At least we have a Manager- The Other Teams' Thread - [R]

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  1. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Not just us but everyone bar City are guilty of this. Very strange indeed.

    The Italian kid is Petrucci, prodigiously gifted ball player but he has been out injured for the last two seasons. Started to make a comeback at the end of last season but major injury setbacks at 18-19 can be career-destroying.

    The other two academy mids of interest are Pogba and Tunnicliffe.

    Definitely centrally but he does need to start getting involved in games a lot more. Talent wise, I do rate him a lot lower than say a Morrison.
     
  2. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    I know some, mainly chris, believe that Oezil went to Madrid for so cheap cuz he was near the end of his contract, but realistically after a WC like he had a bidding war could have taken that price way higher

    Which brings me to my point, Oezil was always going to Madrid cuz he wanted to, same with Kedira and IMHO Sahin. So it isn't a question why Utd didn't go for the three.

    As for why Utd dont by players from the BL, what teams in England buy highly talented players from Germany??? In fact not until Oezil, Khedira and Sahin went to madrid not many clubs outside of Germany bought the next German stars.

    Thats one thing i respect about the BL, they seem to keep their talent, and its strengthened their league over the years.
     
  3. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    Your post is very true. Yo add a little bit; Mourinho himself said he was a fan of Germany during the WC and he follows the BL closely.

    Another thing to consider, Oezil and Sahin have the same agent. Borussia Dortmund had a buy-out clause for Sahin and his agent brought it to Mourinho's attention, a man that was already a Sahin fan.

    They simply made the approach to Dortmund and by the time everyone got a hold of this news, even us BvB fans, the deal was almost done.

    Something else to note...Germany did not have much talent to offer before 2006. The likes of Hitzelsperger and our very own Huth were the main ones going out over seas. The likes of Lahm and Schweinsteiger all chose to stick with Bayern.

    Other players that impacted like Kroos, Gomez and Neuer made their move to Bayern. It is really only been in the last 3-4 years that Germany has started to produce young youth and most of them are young enough that they feel like exercising their development in Germany - and I don't blame them. Goetze, Reus, Mueller have all stated that they want to continue developing in Germany before considering a move to the Prem or La Liga.

    Related; Germany's U17 just beat Burkina Faso 3-0. That's 9 goals in just two matches... :eek:
     
  4. Bruckner283

    Bruckner283 Member+

    Apr 25, 2006
    Lake Of The Coheeries
    Any chance he would feel completely developed by say before the transfer window closes? Our rightside would welcome such a player.
     
  5. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Not really. The players with similar contract situations that have moved for less include the likes of Ozil. I'm not saying it's a bad purchase, but it is expensive.
     
  6. PLand1534

    PLand1534 Member

    Jul 26, 2010
    Ohio
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands

    I love the idea of Mueller in a Blues shirt. Great touch and vision and the ability to play centrally as a playmaker as he did during the World Cup.
     
  7. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    During the WC he played mostly on the RW while Oezil played in the middle.
     
  8. PLand1534

    PLand1534 Member

    Jul 26, 2010
    Ohio
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    My mistake was it for Bayern where he drifted centrally as more of a passer then?
     
  9. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yup, for Bayern while Robben was out injured - again and again...
     
  10. Bruckner283

    Bruckner283 Member+

    Apr 25, 2006
    Lake Of The Coheeries
    ^
    One of the reasons I so dig him is that versatility. Still doubt Bayern sale him but what a buy he could be.
     
  11. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Several young players like that at the moment in Germany but I think Goetze has shown the most versatility out of all of them. He has played LW, AM and RW in a 4-2-3-1 formation with Dortmund in the last 1 1/2 seasons and he has played in all those positions like it is his natural position. For an 18 year old...amazing.

    I can't way to see a formation like this for Germany;

    -------------Striker
    --
    Goetze-------Oezil--------Mueller


    Amazing that the bench could have Marin, Holtby, Schurrle, Reus and Podolski covering for them. :eek:
     
  12. Ben7021

    Ben7021 Member

    Mar 19, 2008
    Orlando
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think that midfield is versatile and creative enough all Germany really needs is a poacher that can hold up the ball some and bang them in up top.
     
  13. nimma

    nimma Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 5, 2006
    India
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I think you guys should change the thread title now that you have a manager.....:)

    Edit: And Cris, Podolski has no right to be even on the bench....He's got the footballing IQ of a brick....
     
  14. okocha1

    okocha1 Member+

    Nov 25, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Germany is producing so much talent, much like French League was about a decade ago. I hope Chelsea go for Goetze after this season. We need to snap this lad up as he's got that mix of talent and application that a lot of players his age and his position don't normally display. We could use either Marin or Reus right now to be honest. Especially for out problems in wider areas and our lack of a true second forward.
     
  15. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Just use Gomez as the striker - he has certainly found his form at Bayern now. And I'm not nearly as sold on Muller as other people - he's a good player without a real position on the pitch.
     
  16. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sp*rs and Orient lose their appeal against the Olympic Stadium / West Ham ruling, paving the way for the biggest stadium in the Championship. If you blag hard enough, you too can play in front of 30,000 empty seats :D

    I have zero sympathy for Sp*rs obviously considering they wanted to knock the bloody thing down and take out the track (while rebuilding a far smaller venue - gee thanks), but think this will soon spell the end for Orient.

    West Ham will have to slash the price of tickets to fill most of the seats which will take any floating fans in the area away from Orient who are a cheaper option currently. That's a lot of families who for the same money will be able to go to a Championship (and potentially premiership) game versus league two fare. And with them goes any chance of the next generation of fans :(

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/london_2012/13895756.stm
     
  17. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    Sure it isn't cheap for a player bearing the end of his contract, but for a 25 yo who knows the league quite well, and as a club who desperately need width, Ashly young for 15 mil should have been here.

    He displayed stellar performances this past WC, what not to be sold on.
     
  18. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I agree with you as do most of the pundits but Loew seems to rate him highly. That said, his record for Germany has been pretty damn good.

    Yup...Gomez and Holtby should be the strikers. Keissling sucks and Klose is already up there in age. Hope to see him regain his form with Lazio next season. Some people want to see Mueller there as well but I like him more on the wing.


    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!


    :D
     
  19. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    It's usually a bad idea to buy players who might happen to have great tournaments.
     
  20. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he has done ok for himself before the tournament and after it.
     
  21. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    [​IMG]
     
  22. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    On a different note, Malaga in Spain has been buying some big names. They just bought Joaquin (Had a great season last year), RVN, and Jeremy Toulalan. Apparently, they got some new owners.
     
  23. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Oil money and pretty smart buy IMO. Below the top two there is some definite returns to be made to get to that 3/4/5 spot and probably need far less investment in la liga than in some other leagues. Plenty of tv profile with a global audience and European places aplenty.

    Not sure how much he spent on the club and players but probably a snip compared to what City cost/spent and with a more achievable path to the champions league given the competition outside of the top two.
     
  24. jcm28

    jcm28 Member

    Apr 12, 2009
    Puerto Rico
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Puerto Rico
    Madrid reporting earnings of 450 million euros after last season. Im guessing the new transfer system implemented next season wont be a problem for them.
     
  25. RamboTambo

    RamboTambo Member

    Feb 1, 2011
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I thought one of the issues in Spain was that the clubs negotiate for their own TV rights, and if you are one of the clubs without a huge fan base in Spain, you will be struggling to get much revenue?
     

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