Even Our Manager Has a Transfer Fee - The Chelsea Manager Thread

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  1. jcm28

    jcm28 Member

    Apr 12, 2009
    Puerto Rico
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Puerto Rico
    1. I agree 110% with mshank. Carlo had no plan B and that is always a problem when you play the league+competitions we play in.

    2. Falcao is quite good, but I see absolutely no need for him when we have Fernando fekin Torres in our roster (not to mention Drogba possibly on the bench). Lukaku is a different story because he's still young, but Falcao would need to enter the starting XI immediately and there is absolutely no space for him. Unless, of course, he could play on the right.
     
  2. Ben7021

    Ben7021 Member

    Mar 19, 2008
    Orlando
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Out of their players my preference would be Hulk, then James Rodriguez, and then maybe Varela. Falcao is great, but not at all what we need.
     
  3. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    i now that it doesnt count til AFTER, but it has everything to do with what we do NOW

    Im not advocating that carlo was wrongfully let go, im one of those "didnt mind if stayed or left" crowd

    BUT FOURTH PLACE!!????!?!?!? just... no!
     
  4. Lamps>Gerrard

    Lamps>Gerrard Member

    Feb 15, 2009
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The no plan B was his fault? We didn't have a competitive squad, and Carlo has played a wider variety of formations than any other manager at Chelsea in quite a while.
     
  5. jcm28

    jcm28 Member

    Apr 12, 2009
    Puerto Rico
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Puerto Rico
    But over the last year he stuck mostly with the 4-3-3 and never seemed to make the right changes whenever we were in trouble.

    Im sure Ferreira will miss him.
     
  6. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    i agree with you that carlo had a plan a, b and c, but he had a huuuuge problem getting the players going

    ive never seen our squad so uninspired under carlos tenure, he failed to whip some ass
     
  7. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that Kalou lining up for the biggest game of the season, or is that Ferreira coming on to change the game? Or is that Zhirkov playing centermid instead of McEachran? is that Sturridge on loan at Bolton? Is that out of form versions of Essien and Lampard starting once again in place of in form Mikel/Ramires?
     
  8. JediSoccer

    JediSoccer Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    Spokane, Washington
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I was a "I'm okay with Carlo staying or leaving" guy, I'll never speak ill of the man, he got us two trophies, but this hiring of AVB is simply wonderful. A young, innovative, detail-oriented, aggressive, motivated mastermind is what we needed. Someone flexible, who can mold a system around the talent on hand, someone with new, fresh ideas and ways to approach things. In a perfect world, sure, Guus for a year or two then ease in AVB, but this is right next to that option. As Jack Nicholson once said, "It's as good as it gets." AVB was always the longterm hope for me with Guus as the bridge to get from Carlo to AVB. This direct route will do just dandy, though, thank you very much.

    I think Andre will be out to prove himself, that his age is a non-factor, that he's not a flash in the pan, that no elderly coach will out-fox him, that no players slack (or else they sit), etc.

    It's all good, imo.

    I think AVB will be out to win every single match, no matter if it's the Carling Cup or the Champions League. He'll try to win it all. From what I've researched, that's how he's wired.

    Some killer signings will portend the above. I wouldn't be surprised one iota if AVB and Roman shock the world with their targets and signings. New coaches of this calibre tend to excite potential transfers, particularly young ones like Neymar, eg. And he has the Jose Mourinho protege' card he can play at anytime, on top of what he did at Porto. That will impress players.

    Two thumbs up on this hire.
     
  9. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    That's arguing you don't like his plan B, not that he didn't have one.

    And again with McEachran. Sigh.
     
  10. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would respond, but I doubt want to shout over you and hurt your feelings
     
  11. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Let's hope not. Nicholson's character says that because he's frightened that things aren't great but won't ever get better.
     
  12. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Hurt my feeling? LOL. Don't worry, I don't take obstinacy on the internet personally.
     
  13. JediSoccer

    JediSoccer Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    Spokane, Washington
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    LOL, I know, but it's the only quote I could muster.
     
  14. TeSo

    TeSo Member

    Oct 15, 2008
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    I don't know how you can say that Falcao is not needed because you guys have Torres.

    Torres played 18 games and scored 1 goal. Torres has had really poor numbers, goals scored the last 5 seasons, except the 2008 season where he got like 23 goals...

    Those stats are nowhere near Falcao. Falcao scored 17 goals in the EUFA Europa League trashing a 15 year old record. The previous year he scored 4 goals in the Champions League.

    He scored 33 goals for Porto in 42 games in the first year at porto. Like 37 goals in his second year in as many games.

    .....

    Facts are facts. When has Torres scored more than 30 goals per season? maybe once?

    If Chelsea gets Falcao, Torres will be benched. Falcao has too much game.
     
  15. Ben7021

    Ben7021 Member

    Mar 19, 2008
    Orlando
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Take a look at our wingers and attacking mids and you can figure it out.
     
  16. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sigh sigh sigh
    :rolleyes:
    :rolleyes:
    :rolleyes:
    sigh
     
  17. jcm28

    jcm28 Member

    Apr 12, 2009
    Puerto Rico
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Puerto Rico
    Exactly. Torres is a great player (one of the few who I admittedly hated whenever he touched the ball against us because of his great skills). He could be a scoring machine if AVB gets the supporting cast right, and I suspect he will. Torres had a bad start with us but Im sure he'll come through soon.
     
  18. okocha1

    okocha1 Member+

    Nov 25, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Yep, it looks like that, eh? I can not for the life of me understand why I'd trust the 4 assists figure I typed (from another board no less). I do like the look of both players you've mentioned though. James Rodriguez went through a bit of a tear near the end of last season. Looks a good young player. Hulk would be great as well, especially if we persist with a 4-3-3 under AVB.
     
  19. okocha1

    okocha1 Member+

    Nov 25, 2004
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
  20. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
  21. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
  22. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    If that is not the surest sign we made the greatest hire, nothing is;):cool:


    I forget how easy was the Portuguese League for Souness...
     
  23. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    what a douche. idiot. So Carlo didnt make any mistakes? :rolleyes:

    And typical Benfica mindset, anyone can coach Porto,even a monkey. :rolleyes:
     
  24. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well I am one happy camper if this goes through. I know there are some doubts because he had success in a lesser league but one thing he has that may be an edge over the rest of the premier league gaffers from day one: work ethic

    This guy is coming in with something to prove and a boatload of energy to expend. I keep seeing words like prepared, meticulous, intelligent when I read more about Andre which is all to the good. There have been times with our recent older (50+) managers that the is some resting on reputation which will not be the case he, as he will be carving out a reputation.

    We should see this absolutely come to the fore against weaker sides where we have shown tendencies to relax and let them dictate the game. It will also stand us in good stead in those huge matches where it is entirely possible to get an edge through strong homework.

    I am so much more excited for this hire than any other, bar perhaps Jose himself and that would have been fraught with obstacles.

    As for potential former players coming on, I generally like this as the new manager knows exactly how he will use them and they often hit the ground running so I will hold judgement while a whole fresh wave of speculation hits the twittersphere.
     
  25. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Wait, he thinks Martin Keown will be a future Porto manager?


    :D
     

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