Young, Pacy, Creative And/Or Up&Coming? Hamburg Awaits You! - The Chelsea Transfer Thread

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  1. Ben7021

    Ben7021 Member

    Mar 19, 2008
    Orlando
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Sanchez had much more success when they switched him to a more central role, rather than out wide, and as much as we need an attacking midfielder, we need wide players more.
     
  2. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    to all of you who believed all that twitter nonsense, its serves you right to be disappointed

    i for one didn't take it seriously at all, and therefore am not surprised that hes going to another team

    what i am surprised is thats is Madrid, i mean seriously, if theres one team that doesn't need another winger is Madrid
     
  3. slipereypete

    slipereypete BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2003
    Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    how utterly foolish do you look know...


    karlsentk Tor-Kristian Karlsen
    from very good sources - neymar not moving until january (at the very earliest)
    18 minutes ago
     
  4. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    actually your the one that looks foolish because:

    a-you were the one that said hes coming here 100%

    and

    b-that tweet means feck all, just like the rest of em
     
  5. Dtrip77

    Dtrip77 Member+

    Jun 10, 2009
    N NJ!!!
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so easy to say....

    "from very good source"

    look

    : This just in!: Neymar has been seen taking advice from Brazilian Ronaldo.....about prostitutes in Madrid! stay twating for more info.....
     
  6. slipereypete

    slipereypete BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2003
    Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    For all intents and purposes the deal was done, but Santos has decided not to stick to the original deal. Like all things in life, its fluid. You seem real upset about this.
     
  7. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    its not Brazilian Ronaldo, its Ronaldo!!!!
     
  8. slipereypete

    slipereypete BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2003
    Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    but you're Dtrip77 and not Tor Karlsen
     
  9. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    im assuming your talking to me

    im not upset, but its annoying when so many are make it out to be sooo sure, like neymar coming here right after the season ended

    i mean nothing is that sure when it comes to footy transfer
     
  10. Dtrip77

    Dtrip77 Member+

    Jun 10, 2009
    N NJ!!!
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    but im verified :rolleyes:

    point being....twating "rumors" is a joke

    shamefully....its a bigger joke then the tabloids now and honestly who would of thought that being possible.
     
  11. slipereypete

    slipereypete BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2003
    Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    There are people on Twitter who are very credible, sometimes they tweet things that come from very credible sources.
     
  12. JediSoccer

    JediSoccer Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    Spokane, Washington
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Keira Knightly has anorexia! Oh, er, wait, I mean, how can Real Madrid bring in Aguero, Neymar... That's a bit overkill, no?
     
  13. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    :rolleyes:





    :p
     
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  14. Bruckner283

    Bruckner283 Member+

    Apr 25, 2006
    Lake Of The Coheeries
    So we are supposed to wait till January and hope he comes here? ******** that and ******** him. The international transfer market hasnt even opened yet so there is still plenty of time to sign someone else. Though plan b's at any level are not this clubs strength. I am guessing we are hoping that guus can replicate Malouda's form under him and he will be our "wide" attack on the left.
     
  15. Dtrip77

    Dtrip77 Member+

    Jun 10, 2009
    N NJ!!!
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    understood
     
  16. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    those very tweets contradict themselves week in and out

    what makes them have creditability, the fact that they used to be scouts

    so what, maybe they want followers just like journos want to sell papers
     
  17. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    We need width, especially on the right, but I think more desperately we need a dynamic creative player to feed the strikers. Sanchez is both.

    I see Neymar as a creative 2nd striker who can play wing while I see Sanchez as a natural wing and perhaps more natural #10 Am.

    For us, you would picture Neymar taking over Malouda's spot and cutting in either a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 or partnering either Drogs or Torres as a striker.

    Sanchez in a 4-3-3 I'd picture either in a freeish role on the right ala Anelka only faster, better, more fluid, a bit less deep, with better more creative less selfish passing and an ability to breakdown a player or two. Also could fill into a Lamp spot when needed.

    In a 4-4-2 he cold play either as a diamond tip, #10, or on the right, or 2nd striker in a pinch.

    My Lamp defending credentials are second to none but we need to transition this year to a less Lamp dependent system where he is not really the only one in the middle that can create chances and I think Sanchez or an Aguerro or a Sneijder is necessary and can fill more holes, if we could only get one player.

    That said I really do think we need both a Sanchez type and a Neymar type and/or a real wide player. I think Neymay will not happen but I do hope we get a wide player for each side, at least one of whom is pure starting quality
     
  18. slipereypete

    slipereypete BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2003
    Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    please demonstrate how Tor Karlsen has ever contradicted himself
     
  19. fernb8

    fernb8 Member+
    Staff Member

    Aug 12, 2002
    I would take Twitter for what its worth- some good sources out there and just as many, if not more, who are full of crap. By now we have 'Arry, Hughes and Guus as our manager and Neymar, Aguero, Modric, Lukuku, DeBruyne, Sanchez and Co. have signed.

    Again- some Tweets are worth noting but its silly to get bent out of shape for most of this Twitter stuff imo. Like anything- all of these "sources" can prove to be unreliable and lets just wait and see what happens.

    I do keep tabs on another good board and they dont allow any goal.com, tribalfootball.com and the like stories on their board and I suspect Twitter will follow suit soon. Shame we dont do that here as we may actually end up with a decent transfer board. :p
     
  20. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    That makes no sense at all. The past decade has seen some very good players move from Italy and I can't think of a single one that has succeeded. That's not random, it's due to the different style of football.
    Further, none of the players you mentioned are particularly comparable to Sanchez just because they're from South America.
     
  21. jcm28

    jcm28 Member

    Apr 12, 2009
    Puerto Rico
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Puerto Rico
    Now the latin american media is all over neymar to madrid. Hate this ish.
     
  22. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Risky? I dont think so. I think we would be taking a bigger risk by not going for him. Paying 50m for Torres was a risk. Paying 30+m for Sheva was a risk. heck paying 5m for Yossi instead of going for someone more talented and younger was more of a risk. Neymar is the real deal. He is the next big thing, this kid has the potential to be on the same level as Ronaldo and Messi in a few years. And under the right guidance it will happen. We have a legit chance to sign him, we should do whatever it takes to sign him. As for Sanchez, we never had a legit chance of getting him, not going to happen. Neither is AJ. He's a homegrown player, City wont let him let so easily. Beside he had his chance to come her, but he chose City.

    Yes he's similar in that he's Brazilian, plays similar position, both have douchebag agents and similar in the way that we had a legit chance to sign Robinho but we f'd it up. We need to learn how to seal a deal.

    Makes sense. Sounds like the Carlo school of thought. Lets try the same thing over again and hope for a different result. :rolleyes:

    I would think so and hope so.

    F that! I'm not willing to take that chance. The club needs to have a plan B if Neymar doesnt happen.

    The fact that they still are scouts and work for a premier league club. I think you can trust their word more than you can a journo.

    That would be a shame if it happened. Twitter is still a could source even though some refuse to see that. I think most of us are smart enough to weed through the bullshitters and read the legit sources.
     
  23. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Twitter is a great medium for the instant gratification society I've found.

    I'm quite happy to wait for the official website to break the news rather than getting high or low over what someone has said in 160 characters or less. If there was interesting insight to be shared (a virtual impossibility given the format) it may be worthwhile, but for every decent tweet there are a million twaats.

    My life will survive not knowing a genuine announcement in the two hours before it is a done deal.

    I am grateful for one thing though - I always wondered how we could get worse than the News of the World. First we had goal.com and now we have twitter - it's like being twice blessed if a blessing looks and smells like horse manure. And yes, I'm sure there are good tweeters (is that the word or is it twitterers?) but they are swamped by no end of baseless rubbish we see posted on this forum.
     
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  24. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    yeah, rather than look at a unique individual, makes far more since to eliminate, any player who has had success in Italy from consideration...and geez no doubt it makes no sense to compare dynamic creative players built some what similarly form the same region and similar youth football style who often play in similar areas of the pitch, when you can make a blanket definitive comparison and elimination of every player who has or will ever play in a Top 3 League...sure makes sense now, up is down....bindippers are honest law-abiding citizens, you'd introduce Giggs to your sister, and so on...
     
  25. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    In all seriousness, could you name a good source on twitter (save me filtering the dregs)?

    I'd like to see what sort of accuracy there is with a credible source and will even track it over time and report back on how spot on the information is and how far ahead of the game they are versus official sources.

    While sceptical (obviously :D) I am willing to give it a shot if you can give me a solid lead. Call it a scientific experiment :)
     

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