Need some silverware? The Chelsea Youth and Reserve Thread - [R]

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  1. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
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    Chelsea FC
    It's something I'm keeping an eye on and regularly searching foreign media for but until there's a replenished structure at the club I'd not expect much. Anything I find will be on my Twitter as usual.
     
  2. roxbury

    roxbury Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Where He went, do You have any info?

    Thanks,
     
  3. Dtrip77

    Dtrip77 Member+

    Jun 10, 2009
    N NJ!!!
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Andy F

    Andy F Member

    Jul 23, 2008
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Gokhan has made the bench for Turkey tonight.

    What a guy.
     
  5. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    So let me get this straight, Chelsea have become the youth farm for Hamburg?? WTF?? :confused: Just to further the question:

    I remember people here liked Sala. Now he will go elsewhere. :rolleyes:
     
  6. fernb8

    fernb8 Member+
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    Aug 12, 2002
  7. slipereypete

    slipereypete BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2003
    Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    BluesChronicle Dan Levene
    Gokhan Tore has become the 3rd Chelsea youngster to make a permanent move to Hamburg. German media tonight reports he signed a 3-year deal.
    2 minutes ago
     
  8. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
  9. Ben7021

    Ben7021 Member

    Mar 19, 2008
    Orlando
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Did we do something to tick Arnesan off?
     
  10. slipereypete

    slipereypete BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2003
    Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    dan_bu dan_bu
    HSV will pay a combined fee of about €2.5m for Mancienne, Sala and Töre, according to several media reports from Hamburg.
    2 minutes ago
     
  11. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
  12. Lamps>Gerrard

    Lamps>Gerrard Member

    Feb 15, 2009
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope they do awesome.

    Anyways, why be upset over this lol? Better for them to advance their careers than rot in our reserves.
     
  13. fernb8

    fernb8 Member+
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    Aug 12, 2002
    I continue to be impressed by how stupid this club can be at times.
     
  14. slipereypete

    slipereypete BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2003
    Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    If the player wants to go back home, not much you can do.
     
  15. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
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    :confused: all 3 are from Hamburg:confused:
     
  16. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    Granted Hamburg is closer to Koln than London, but come on??? This guy was just starting to show his game. I can't freakin' believe this even went down. Where was our adviser on this decision???
     
  17. slipereypete

    slipereypete BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2003
    Gig Harbor, WA, USA
    Tore is from Germany, I had hoped it was obvious I was referring to him
    I won't lose sleep over this.
     
  18. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I read this today as well. But I question how accurate that number is. I remember it being mentioned that Mancienne alone was going for 3 million and the other two were going for 1 million and change.

    Not going to lose sleep over it, highly doubt that MM and Sala would ever make it on the 1st team squad. While Tore has talent, so did Stoch, but he's not exactly lighting up the world.

    Only time will truly tell though I guess.
     
  19. fernb8

    fernb8 Member+
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    Aug 12, 2002
    I have issues with selling of talented players when we have such a thin squad. And while we dont know if two of the three could be legitimate first team players and that we are not the best known club for developing players- its my opinion that we may ended letting these lads go, especially as two of them were homegrown.
     
  20. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    yeah seems rather than going 6 players, I think, short as we did this year give them at least a first team shot for a year plus you could add two more non-s with two home grown
     
  21. jcm28

    jcm28 Member

    Apr 12, 2009
    Puerto Rico
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Puerto Rico
    I understand why some of us are a bit upset, but now that I think of it, would any of these guys ever come close to becoming regulars in our first team? I think our only youth player with a chance of that is Jmac, so I think that maybe roman wants to sell these kids to start winning something out of thr youth system he has basically paid for, although 2.5 mill is a bit of a slow start.
     
  22. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Three of them have full international Caps, not like they are from a Sunday youth kick around at the park, the thing is perhaps one or more could, perhaps not, but a little early to write them all off in the home grown era before they hit 20, and they are going to a team that has and may see Cl, in a very good league, so not like the Football world rates them as part time grocers likely to play for a Pub team
     
  23. Yaroni

    Yaroni Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Tel Aviv
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    Whether they're full internationals, potentials or even 50/50s, the point is that we need to keep our youth and try and grind out some real homegrown talent instead of just buying them from others, and were never gonna establish that type of MENTALITY or PHILOSOPHY or even a WORKING SYSTEM if we keep releasing these kids.

    And its not for the fairplay and homegrown rules that will take effect shortly, but because that's how football teams have worked and its foolish to think that recipe will change with a lot of money. Plus its so much sweeter when you made that player.

    FFS JT is our only homegrown player in our first team since roman took over and well before that.

    End of rant.

    Summers here, gone fishin!! :)
     
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  24. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Mancienne still has lapses in concetration, even while playing regularly for wolves. he was still caught out and responsible for letting some goals in, even if he played well for large parts of a game. so i'm not overly concerned with him. Sala, i'm not sure, seemed a good player.

    but Tore, he really did seem to have a future. and to let Sala and Tore go so early, without even loaning them at all? i just don't get it.
     
  25. lobomojo

    lobomojo Member+

    Chelsea, Gillingham
    Jul 17, 2004
    Freedom
    Club:
    Chelsea FC

    geez even when you seeming mostly agree with me, it does not sound so, plus cantankerous as well :confused::D

    Absolutely agree with the focus of your points on the letting go of young players issue, and though I think it immensely important for Club Identity and Continuity and all those reasons, also I think significantly because of the realism of the homegrown aspect, which will necessitate that squad players be mostly home grown, and that foreign players be starting quality or in the clear making, which is not to say several of our own youth won't grow or should not be given the chance to become starters
     

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