Hot Seat 2010-11

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by bigbounce1, Jun 24, 2010.

  1. uscue13

    uscue13 Member

    Nov 11, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does Cromwell from UCF take the trek south to Miami? I thought consensus here last year was she wouldn't stay at UCF for too much longer. Miami is still the same state, so her contacts wouldn't change. It's the ACC, so more money (I'd assume) and finish in the top 8 (which Miami reasonably can already do) and you're in the NCAA's. A lot better than run through the CUSA as the #1 or #2 seed.
     
  2. Crazy4socr

    Crazy4socr Member

    Oct 26, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    UCF area is more family friendly than Miami. I think she would be smart to stay put. JMO
     
  3. DemitriMaximoffX

    Aug 19, 2006
    With Cromwell's reputation, I think she could do a lot better than Miami. I don't think she's leaving UCF unless the perfect job opens up.

    Either that or unless someone backs up the Brinks truck towards her house.
     
  4. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If she wants to "step up" what other job would be *perfect* for her? UVA? I don't see that one opening up any time soon. She's already in FL & has the recruiting connections covered. But how does one (or maybe just Cromwell) define the *perfect* job?

    In a lot of ways, she seems the obvious candidate for the Miami job. She's done what most consider to be a really good job @ UCF. Is the U just a bad place to be for women's soccer? Is the pay lower than standard ACC?
     
  5. 5hole

    5hole Member

    Jan 10, 2005
    Columbia, SC
    You think Cromwel would leave UCF for a rebuilding job. Doubt the budget at Miami is much better anyway. ACC has notorious low budgets.

    Besides Miami needs a good recruiter which she is not known for. I know it is debated on here a lot but my 1st 3 calls would be ER (UNCG hc), EB (FSU asst coach) and CH (UCF asst coach.) ER is one of the best mid major coaches in d1 and EB and CH are known to be 2 of the top recruiters in the southeast and certainly FL. Pretty sure they both play very big roles in their programs and are in the region.

    Look at what BP has done at Maryland. He was a men's asst. SS at SC has taken her a while but slowly built the program. Even TT at Miami was a succesful D1 HC at Illinois before she went to Miami. Don't think it is a formula like some on here want to make it. Either youc an recruit and coach or you can't. It is going to be a long process to build Miami or Clemson.

    Darkhorse: Baker at Rollins?
     
  6. LFC41589

    LFC41589 New Member

    Oct 27, 2010
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    What about Robin Confer assistant at Georgia or Clemson jobs?
     
  7. LFC41589

    LFC41589 New Member

    Oct 27, 2010
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    for the Miami or clemson job that should read...
     
  8. RedBlueDevil

    RedBlueDevil Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    Dallas, Texas
    In the name of all that's holy, stop using initials, especially when you then identify them as "ER, head coach of UNCG." It serves no purpose other than to annoy the reader.
     
  9. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess I don't see Miami being as much of a re-build as you do. And I could be *really* wrong in that assessment. But I definitely wouldn't put Miami & Clemson in the same category in terms of where each program is at. Your point about notoriously low ACC budgets is a good one. It is quite possible Cromwell has at least similar levels of institutional support at UCF. If that's the case, then do you think UCF is where she's going to stay as long as her teams don't completely suck?

    As for Baker, as someone who knows nothing beyond the public story -- his leaving UGA in the spring citing health/family reasons and then going to Rollins less than 2 months later gives me a big red flag. Maybe there's a massive backstory I'm missing (and don't need/want to know) but it doesn't look good from the outside.
     
  10. DemitriMaximoffX

    Aug 19, 2006
    In regards to the above poster mentioning Confer for the Clemson job, I think that hiring an assistant with no head coaching experience is the LAST thing they would do after their last hire.

    The little birdies whispering in my ear are saying that Baker is going after the Clemson job. And possibly the Miami job. As to the points you mentioned above, very perceptive. Let's just leave it at that.
     
  11. upprv

    upprv Member

    Aug 4, 2004
    After what transpired at Georgia, could he really be in the mix for Miami or Clemson? Would AD's look past something like that?
     
  12. hanx22

    hanx22 New Member

    Oct 3, 2010
    What did happen at Georgia? This board tells the story on others. Why is he being protected? Just the general story is enough.

    Interesting that the AD at Georgia was fired over his own scandal months after Baker left.
     
  13. shedevil

    shedevil New Member

    Feb 6, 2010
    Who knows what really happened. It could have been the stated reason or it could have been perceived support or contract issues. Unless there is a documented ethical issue I would think you would have to look at the body of work. He may be happy at Rollins.
     
  14. upprv

    upprv Member

    Aug 4, 2004
    I don't know why people haven't "outed" the story. I know and I'm reluctant to spill it just because I don't want to be the first one to do it. Cowardly? I guess.

    And at the end of the day, he shouldn't be tried and vilified on a message board. I'm guessing his life was pretty crappy when all this went down, without annonymous nut jobs like us commenting on it. After the Notre Dame dealio and McGuire's meltdown at Cal, my taste for the drama has changed.

    I'm just curious for those who do know, if you think an AD would give him another shot.
     
  15. tcrawdad

    tcrawdad New Member

    Jul 31, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, now I'm curious
     
  16. DemitriMaximoffX

    Aug 19, 2006
    Pinsoom Tenzing has retired as Hawaii coach. That's an interesting (and challenging) job that just came open.

    Meanwhile, Vermont promotes from within.
     
  17. tcrawdad

    tcrawdad New Member

    Jul 31, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, but the pitch locations are EPIC

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  18. lifer1984

    lifer1984 New Member

    Jan 14, 2010
    If 10-8-1 is enough to get TT fired at UM... how long does Ange at UT have? or Ron at Iowa? or Mick at IU? all coaches have been with programs for at least 5 years...
     
  19. ref17

    ref17 Member

    Nov 10, 2006
    what about kf at louisville? haven't made the tournament for a while, at least a few transfers out. lousiville likes to see its name in lights.
    and jn at western kentucky? new AD, 11 (?) years of comfortably winning against weak teams..never getting worse but never getting better.
     
  20. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bigger question to me is how long (and expensive) is Petrucelli's contract at UT. The last 3 years UT has finished 5th, 5th, 6th in the Big 12. First round exits in the Big12 tourny this year and 2008. 2nd round exit in 2009.

    Folks in TX get antsy when things aren't going as well as they thought. The women's bball coach is feeling a bit of heat in just her 3rd year even though that cupboard was more bare than some realized or wanted to acknowledge. Maybe the focus on Goestenkors allows Petrucelli to coast by for another year or two?
     
  21. lifer1984

    lifer1984 New Member

    Jan 14, 2010
    Meant University of Tennessee? She has to be on hot seat right?
     
  22. MotorBob

    MotorBob Member

    Oct 24, 2007
    If my memory serves me well, I think it was established on this board early this fall that UT just signed a 5 year contract this year (with a hefty salary - maybe highest in SEC). That would put her in year one of the 5 year contract so I do not believe she would be on the "hot seat".
     
  23. uscue13

    uscue13 Member

    Nov 11, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who is TT at UM? Never understood the whole initials thing. Coaches are public figures, it's ok to say their names.
     
  24. lifer1984

    lifer1984 New Member

    Jan 14, 2010
    Tricia at University of Miami
     

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