China going for 2026?

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  1. nbanba

    nbanba Member

    Nov 1, 2004
    China should rather host women's World Cup once again rather than discussing about men's World Cup bid.

    China for WC 2026? Really stupid!

    They should host women's world cup about 2020's and free Tibet. After that, we might consider China's hosting World Cup.
     
  2. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Yeah, but the players who would populate the team in 2026 are currently in grade school. That said, if China is awarded a World Cup, you can be sure that with their organizational prowess and wads of cash, they will be able to hire enough good coaches at both the youth and senior levels to make sure they do respectably.

    That said, the point about China not wanting to lose face is an excellent one. However, my guess would be that they are more worried about losing the bidding for 2026 than how well their team would do.

    If I had to hazard a guess, they are probably negotiating behind the scenes with Blatter right now to ensure a cleared field for 2026, in which case the Aussies will get tossed overboard in favor of the USA for 2022.
     
  3. LiverAndPineapple

    May 7, 2008
    I don't see how you can back this up. Ratings for the World Cup are terrible when China is not playing in it. The national soccer league is pretty lame as well. That said, I agree that China would make a great host. That market has great potential.
     
  4. Sayed

    Sayed New Member

    Oct 9, 2010
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    This appeared in the Shanghai Daily 4 hours ago, but it is subscription only, so this is all I can see. If you want to see it for yourself, type China World Cup into Google news
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    China to end bid for world cup

    China has indicated it is to give up its bid to host the 2026 World Cup as it grapples with the corruption ...
     
  5. Sayed

    Sayed New Member

    Oct 9, 2010
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Ok, here is the full thing
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    China to end bid for World Cup

    China has indicated it is to give up its bid to host the 2026 World Cup as it grapples with the corruption and chaotic management that has crippled the sport for years.

    The news came as a nationwide fight against soccer corruption intensified and expanded to include more people, including the former manager of Shanghai's Shenhua Football Club.

    A China World Cup bid may be delayed by at least four to eight years, said Asian regional soccer chief Mohammed Bin Hammam in Zibo after Wei Di, president of the China Football Association confirmed that China wouldn't bid for the 2026 tournament if any of the four other Asian countries °?- South Korea, Japan, Qatar and Australia - is selected as the 2022 venue.

    China missed the deadline to bid for the 2022 tournament due to the ongoing corruption scandal, a CFA official told the Chongqing Evening News.

    Media reports yesterday said that Lou Shifang, Shenhua's former manager, had been out of contact for several days after three former local star players had been taken away by police in their investigation into match fixing.

    Phone calls and text messages to Lou went unanswered and his involvement in organizing a national Go game had ceased, the Xinmin Evening News reported yesterday.

    The latest developments put Shanghai at the center of the fight against match fixing and gambling and added to speculation that the three former players, Shen Si, Qi Hong and Jiang Jin, may have been involved in a fixed match in China's first division.

    Fan Zhiyi, former captain of the national team, is also likely to be put under investigation soon, Ran Xiongfei, a soccer reporter with Titan Sports, said on his microblog while talking about betting on China's matches during the 2002 World Cup.

    Sina.com reported yesterday that insiders had voiced suspicions that six players in the national team were involved in match fixing and gambling in a game with Oman during the 2002 World Cup qualifiers.

    China beat Oman 1-0, securing its spot among the 32 teams going to South Korea and Japan for the 2002 World Cup.

    A series of match fixing and corruption scandals have tarnished the CFA's credibility and led to high-level management revamp and the nationwide investigation.

    Several high-ranking officials, referees and coaches have been arrested or placed under investigation since the beginning of this year.

    Xie Yalong, former vice chairman of the CFA, Nan Yong, former head of the CFA and retired referee Lu Jun, considered China's No. 1 and nicknamed "Golden Whistle," have all been arrested for allegedly accepting bribes to fix matches, placing players on or off the payroll of the national team and other charges.

    http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=452069&type=Sports
     
  6. cmquaker

    cmquaker New Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    Philadelphia
    Interesting article, but what they're saying here isn't really news since they wouldn't be able to bid anyway if there is an Asian host in 2022.
     
  7. OrlandoEngelaar

    Jul 19, 2008
    CA
    The sport is definitely bigger there(more accepted by mainstream) than in the USA, can't debate that. The domestic league is hurt by ref bribery and corruption though.
     
  8. californiabloke

    Jan 16, 2010
    I believe that China shall be awarded the 2026 WC if the selection process for the preceeding WCs goes as follows:

    2018: ENG
    2022: USA

    By 2026 China should have the infrastructure in place for hosting the tournament, which will be focused on the east coast of the country. China will have no problem filling the stadia, unless many venues are chosen in the interior.

    A WC in Australia would be great, but the country has only about 20 million people, and there is going to be a great debate whether to include isolated places like Perth or the Northeast for hosting matches.

    The 2030 WC would then go to a European country -- perhaps ITA, ESP, or even RUS.
     
  9. --X--

    --X-- New Member

    Feb 8, 2010
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Some absolute hopeful posts here.There is actually enough votes between the 4 AFC bids to make sure it goes to one of them,mainly because Qatar has stolen so many of the USAs votes:)
    If Asia misses out in '22 because of a perceived sabotage by China ,then there is no way that China will get the 4 AFC and 1 OFC vote,neither will they get the other 6 votes that Qatar has tied up in collusion.Thats 11,then we come to Europe,the conscience of ExCo which will need far more time and evidence that corruption,match fixing,human rights,etc are fixed while the USA are also about to go into a currency war with China

    Anyway,for the record
    http://racefor.sportcal.com/Home/News_Article.aspx?ArticleID=75623
    However, Fifa president Sepp Blatter has played down China’s interest and expressed his belief that it would not deter Fifa executive committee members from voting for Asian countries in the 2022 race.

    Han is in agreement, saying: “If China is interested in hosting the 2026 World Cup that is China’s business. I also do not think that this will affect the decision [on the 2022 host].”

    He added that it would be good if China worked with, rather than against, the rest of Asia to help bring the tournament back to the continent in 2022.
     
  10. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think 2030 will go to URU/ARG joint bid to honor the 100 anniversary of the World Cup. The countries have already announced that they are working together to make it happen. I hope it does.
     
  11. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Don't be too certain of this. Athens thought they had the 1996 Olympics sown up for the same reason. If the rotational rules don't change between now and then, 2030 will be Europe's.
     
  12. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point, URU/ARG wont get the 2030 because of corruption by the voting committee.
     
  13. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    It's pretty hard to put up an argument against this statement.
     
  14. AC 03

    AC 03 New Member

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I think for WC 2026 it will be in Asian country eithet in China or Middle East (Qatar & UAE)
     
  15. --X--

    --X-- New Member

    Feb 8, 2010
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    So you're saying all 4 Asian bids will fail for 2022:)

    Meanwhile Chuck Blazer scrambles to get the US bid moving again
     
  16. Cody667

    Cody667 Member+

    May 10, 2010
    Sudbury, ON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England


    Well they probably will. China rumors or not the U.S. is probably going to get 2022, unless Australia can miraculously get Japan, South Korea, and Qatar to all fold their 2022 bids. That's the problem...too many AFC bids against one CONCACAF bid, which is more desirable to CONMEBOL and UEFA than Australia's.

    Assuming the US gets 2022, 2026 will be easy to predict the bidders. Australia, Qatar, Japan, and South Korea will all be back. They'll be joined by Argentina, China, Egypt, and Morocco for sure. Colombia, Chile, and Venezuela could all realistically make bids from CONMEBOL but I'm sure Argentina would dominate them. Also since 2026 is like 16 years away, we might even see many positive governmental changes that could see Nigeria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and India realistically be able to put bids together.
     
  17. Stretch Armstrong

    Jan 15, 2004
    China will only go for it if they are confident they ll have a team good enough not to lose face.

    One thing is for sure - the Chinese would host a great World Cup.
     
  18. Cody667

    Cody667 Member+

    May 10, 2010
    Sudbury, ON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Great point, but you have to figure that with their population, the fact that China's one of the fastest growing football markets, and that 2026 is 16 years from now, China will have a much better side than they do now. Sure they haven't gotten any better since they first made it 8 years ago, but they've got 16 more to build on that.
     
  19. Stretch Armstrong

    Jan 15, 2004
    True, although most of the kids these days are playing basketball - they ll probably soon have a team of Yao Mings. Football should be developing much quicker than it is - NBA really stole a march on the Premier League in China. It was amazing however how much interest the Chinese took in the World Cup, despite their side not qualifying and it being outside Asia.

    That said, there are sure to still be millions upon millions playing football, and if the governemnet decides to, it will put the neccessary structures in place to develop better players.
     
  20. --X--

    --X-- New Member

    Feb 8, 2010
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    What a bloody embarrassing post-I'm sorry but it is

    atm the USA are only going to get 3 votes-thats why Blazer has been scrambling the last 6 days:eek:
    As for Europe-good luck with that:)

    Australia is bidding this ONCE before the big powers of China and India get their act together.If we miss out-we (and Oceania and 600 million people in ASEAN)will never ever host in my lifetime.That will ruin FIFAs dream of hosting in every continent before the IOC.

    It is indeed The USA that is THE ONLY NATION IN THE WORLD GUARANTEED OF GETTING 2026 if things don't go right for them

    But the balance of power is shifting to Asia,like it or not.The huge middle classes are becoming massive consumers.With 70% of the world in Australia's timezone,its a compelling argument for FIFA and their sponsors,many who come from the dynamic economies of Asia
     
  21. Cody667

    Cody667 Member+

    May 10, 2010
    Sudbury, ON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That was rude as f*ck, so I disregarded the rest of your post, haven't read it at all yet, but with that kind of a start to it I don't see how it can at all be credible. Then I saw that you support the Melbourne Victory which probably means you're Australian, which confirmed that your post would most likely be completely pro-Australia/anti-USA biased.
     
  22. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    I don't think UEFA or CONMEBOL give a monkies about 2022 so it's not really desirable for them to favour one over the other.

    Anyway, the China 2026 has gone away, it's only the American backers that keep bringing it to the forefront.

    Like you tell us 2026 is only 16 years away and then you throw in many many more nations at us, so all you've done on here is tell us all the CONMEBOL and AFC nations that are big enough to host (although this would probably be news to them), which is a sad reason for telling us that USA should get 2022. Why? Wrong thread mate.
     
  23. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    I'm sorry, but he was right.

    --X-- is a valued member of the forum in my opinion, he backs up what he has to say, he certainly doesn't just come on and shout the odds. Yes he's in Australia but you play down there bid for 22 because there are more Asian bidders than Concacaf bidders, thats all you based it on. You want the AFC backers to feel like they should wait for 2026 and let the USA take 2022 and then you throw in CONMEBOL nations into the mix for 26!!
     
  24. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Yeah, thats all he wanted to say.

    Fact is FIFA have endorsed the Qatari bid for 2022 so even if they do fail, why would they want to go running to the UAE four years later?
     
  25. Cody667

    Cody667 Member+

    May 10, 2010
    Sudbury, ON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    Still not reading a post that starts like that, so I probably won't ever know what he said. But whatever say what you want, but when the US gets awarded 2022 in a couple weeks Im gonna come back to this thread just to say I told you so.
     

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