What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly - Transfer Thread

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  1. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    i haven't missed any points

    joe hart is a very big talent and a marked improvement on our keepers

    we cannot afford buffon and hart could force a move as he seems to resent man city

    u have this football manager mentality u can't seem to shake of buying world class players every season and saying wenger is useless because he doesn't buy the players u want
     
  2. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    IMO, we aren't in for Buffon (and never were), and if Hart were available, he'd have a host of clubs willing to buy him, which would price us out. Therefore, this really is a trivial conversation.
     
  3. TerpSoccerFan

    TerpSoccerFan Member

    Jan 14, 2007
    Rome
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It isn't a "football manager mentality." It is how literally every other major club in this world operates. If you have a glaring weakness in your team and you don't have the players at hand to solve it, you go and buy a good player to fill that void.

    Wenger is only useless if he does nothing about the GK situation. He doesn't have to buy Buffon, but he has to do something. There must be an attempt to rectify this glaringly obvious issue. If Almunia and Fabianski are our #1 and #2 on September 2, 2010, then he has completely lost it.
     
  4. TerpSoccerFan

    TerpSoccerFan Member

    Jan 14, 2007
    Rome
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ever and always in this thread.
     
  5. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    barca and united dont

    although united spent alot on established players, not many were world class but became it under ferguson
     
  6. TerpSoccerFan

    TerpSoccerFan Member

    Jan 14, 2007
    Rome
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So let's review what I said:

    You have a glaring weakness on your team and you don't have the players at hand to solve it, so you go out and buy a good player to fill that void.

    Barcelona and Manchester United don't do this?

    The world class designation is your own. I just ask that something be done about the goalkeeper position. If you gave me a choice between Buffon and Hart, I'd take Buffon. I like either option much more than playing Almunia another game. Unfortunately, I don't think either is likely to happen. But something needs to.
     
  7. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    but united took risks and developed talent and got the best player in the world out of it

    i personally agree we should splash the cash, but to label wenger incompetent if we don't is a joke
     
  8. TerpSoccerFan

    TerpSoccerFan Member

    Jan 14, 2007
    Rome
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he does not attempt to fix the position, then he is incompetent to serve as the manager of the club. We know the club has the capacity to do it and we also know that this position singlehandedly gives away points and ruins otherwise winnable matches.

    To see those things and choose not to try to make it better is to be stubborn to the point of negligence and he would no longer be fit to be the manager.
     
  9. Silva 5

    Silva 5 Member+

    Mar 10, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. YankGooner

    YankGooner Member

    Sep 24, 2007
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
  12. mintone

    mintone New Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    Seattle
    What about Mandanda from L'OM? :p

    Lets see, Adler, Viviano, Lloris, Frey, De Gea, Asenjo, Hart, Robinson (please NO), Buffon, Sorenson...

    Who else? Thats 10 and I know there have been others!
     
  13. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    green, neuer?, reina, akinfeev, gordon?
     
  14. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    Yeah. Plus this also breeds resentment of certain players from our fan base. Denilson especially and Diaby too to some extent. We are hurting the team in the present supposedly to "protect" the future of players who are mediocre in the first place. We end up blaming the player, but it's the coach who's really more at fault.
     
  15. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    Yeah, I really wonder why we don't do more of that.
     
  16. FabregasTED

    FabregasTED Member

    Jan 2, 2007
    New Haven, CT
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Next year's starting XI:

    [LINEUP-4-3-3]Adler, Buffon, Hart, Sorenson, Green, Wilshere, Akinfeev, Lloris, Frey, Viviano, Almunia[/LINEUP-4-3-3]
     
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  17. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    I don't buy this. To a significant extent, playing time = credibility. Gilberto lost a step to the point where we couldn't afford to give Gilberto playing time any more. But he still wanted to continue his career as a competitive player. I don't think we had any better choices with him.
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    it amazes me that gilberto can play for brazil but not be good enough to be an arsenal squaddie :rolleyes:
     
  19. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    Yeah, but it does happen every once in a while. For a while, the Buffalo Bills were thought to be in the frontrunners to get Tim Tebow on Jim Kelly's sayso.
     
  20. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    he wouldve been perfect backup for song
     
  21. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Dunga was playing in Japan in 1998, yet captained Brazil at the world cup

    it doesn't mean much, if we being honest

    also, would Gilberto enjoy being a squadable player? Would he still start for Brazil as a squaddie player?


    In saying that, I agree with you about having an older head to teach the young pups at CM
     
  22. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    all those keepers and you still have almunia in nets? are you really arsene wenger in disguise? :eek: :D
     
  23. Loose Cannon

    Loose Cannon Member

    Feb 11, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  24. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eh, he's almost 33 and has been dealing with injuries the last few years. I don't think it's shameful.
     
  25. Silva 5

    Silva 5 Member+

    Mar 10, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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