Question about football in Gulf states

what gulf are you talking about?????
It has a damn name people!!!!!! Use it!
It's Persian Gulf not the Gulf!

 

Well done nimaa, first time you have not used 'Mexican Gulf' in one of your responses!

What Gulf do you think he's talking about in this Asian Thread? Gulf of Thailand?

 

He could be talking about the Gulf of Oman, Gulf of Aden or the Gulf of Carpentaria in Northern Australia...

 

yes, they do...there are many non-national players who play in countries surrounding the persian gulf

but i believe its more on the senior sides and not the youth sides...unless if they are people who migrated there and live there

 

you're from UAE, you should know why I care about this issue

 

Erm no, i'm from England. I've only ever been in Duabi and Abu Dhabi airports in transit, hardly makes me a UAE national

 

I thought you were from there, sorry

Since the 60's the arab nationalists from Saudi and UAE have started a campaign to change the name of the Persian Gulf into the ****ian gulf.

They are taking advantage of the fact that Iran today is isolated and an enemy of the West. That combined with an endless supply of oil $ has resulted in a somewhat successful attempt to change the name of a body of water that was called Persian Gulf for more than 2500 years!!!! For thousands of years we Iranians have been trying to push arabs back and this is just the latest attempt by them to change our culture. The West, being its usual short sighted idiot, is slowly taking their side. For now $ talks unfortunately.
In Iran however people are becoming EXTREMELY pissed about this. In the past 2 decades nationalists have used this to instill even more hate towards arabs to the point that one day it might end up costly for these Persian Gulf sheikhdoms and maybe even Iranian arabs.

Arabs have basically erased the word Iran and Persian from their vocabulary and when you guys do the same then you're playing into the hands of these puny ass sheikhdoms.

Little do they know is that oil won't save them for ever.

 

lol some people are just over-sensitive

To answer your questions I see more than a few expats attending games, usually Arabs

 

For once, I tend to agree with you. Slowly, slowly going that way.

 

You gotta be kidding someone, I am an Expat and I follow Saudi Soccer specially Al Hilal like crazy maniac ...

Just to answer this thread initiator question, the Arabic speaking countries term themselves as Arabian Gulf Nation while Only Persian Speaking Country i.e., Iran, term itself and this region as "Persian Gulf" as Iran is existing in the region for more than 2,500 years.

Now, in Arab countries, Expats (Non-Arab) play in their leagues and there are many clubs in UAE who have Iranian Expat players playing for the club.
I don't know of any Arab player playing in Iranian Club.

Moreover, as Muslims, there's no difference between Arab and Non-Arab as all Muslims are ideologically considered to be one Nation. But, Arab Nationalism (that started from Egypt during 1960s and became very strong during the tenor of Anwar Saadat), divided the Muslims as Arabs & Non-Arabs where Iran was hit the most because not only Iran is a Non-Arab Country but because Iran's religious Ideology is somewhat not accepted by most of the Arab countries.


Note: The above information given by me is non-bious to the best of my knowledge. I do appologize if someone felt sad after reading the above statements but this is what the actual scenario is IMO.

 

1) There are arabs playing in Iran. We've had tons of Iraqi players play in Iran. Right now we have 6 Iraqis (Including Karrar Jasim, Emad Mohamad, Hawar mullah mohammad and Samal Saeed who all play for the NT).

from Kuwait we have Waleed Ali - Esteghlal F.C, and from Libya we have Éamon_Zayed - Persepolis F.C

There are others too. Here's the complete list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_footballers_in_the_Iranian_Premier_League


2) The term Persian Gulf is recognized by every member of the United Nations except some Persian Gulf Arab countries. The reasons you gave are somewhat valied. The arabs will not be able to change the UN recognized term, because no country will allow them to change it. It would set a dangerous precedent. Other countries will start doing the same and it will be chaos. Half the planet will be calling every pond and river whatever the ******** they want.

 

Many incorrect statements here: Arab Nationalism started way before the 1960s it started in the latter part of the 19th Century in the Levant. It became really popular during the 1950s under Jamal Abdel-Nasser (Anwar Sadat promoted Egyptian nationalism). Muslims were divided from the outset- there were wars of apostasy that started months after Prophet Mohammed's death and raged on for many years after that. And part of the hallmark of the Ummayyad dynasty was their favoring of Arabic speakers over non Arabic speakers (Arab is not an ethnic term but a linguistic one).

As for what to name the Gulf- It is a non-issue with the Arabs of the Levant we tend to just call it Al-Khaleej (the Gulf) and we call the Arabs from that area Khaleejis (Gulfies).

As for non-nationals playing in Gulf countries- Palestine has a couple:

Majed Abusidu (Al-Yarmouk/Kuwait)
Imad Zatara (Sanat Naft/Iran)
Abdelatif Bahdari (Hajer/Saudi Arabia)
Abdullah Battat (Khatreiat/Qatar)

and also Wisam Rizik who has 70+ caps for Qatar is actually Palestinian.

 

I don't know of any non-nationals that play for Saudi clubs or the National team.

I think though Amin Dabo of Ahli and the NT back in the 80s was originally an immigrant before gaining nationality.