Rumor: Crew to acquire Colombian striker Herrera

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  1. Crew Chuck35

    Crew Chuck35 Member+

    Apr 13, 2009
    Gahanna, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My guess is Garey gets moved since he just signed a deal for 3 years that was relatively speaking low in the salary cap area. I would have to think the teams like NE, DC, Dallas, and Chivas could be interested in a player like Jason.
     
  2. AJStank

    AJStank Member

    Columbus Crew
    Mar 22, 2007
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. beyondthenormal-s3

    Oct 4, 2009
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    $90,000. For that money there is no reason to dump Renteria. The guy had an impressive strike against Puerto Rico and hasn't had enough chances to write him off yet. He played like four games for us and scored one goal, and looked pretty good in every game, except for like one. I would rather re-assess him after this full season and then see.

    I still believe Renteria is better than any other striker we have other than possibly this Herrera guy.

    If anyone was to go, I would say Garey who has had a million chances to be the starter. But, that isn't going to likely happen since we signed him to a four year contract. But, I'm sure we could trade him to another MLS team if we wanted.

    Or hell, maybe we keep all six. I mean geez, you got to figure one of the six will end up being a goalscorer next year.

    Anyways, Herrera's resume is impressive enough for me. Scoring goals for Deportivo Cali three months ago. Could be much worse for non-DP money, rather have his strike rate with Deportivo then John lately.
     
  4. B-M-T

    B-M-T Member

    Jun 23, 2001
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like we have filled our 10 shirt.
     
  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our #10 wears #7.

    I think we are looking for a #9.
     
  6. CLG431

    CLG431 Member

    Oct 20, 2006
    Westerville, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Skeleton Crew

    Skeleton Crew Member+

    Mar 20, 2009
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    From the youtube.com vids
    looks like he has a deft touch and a lucky knack for being in the right place.

    and he scores pk's not that we need that!
     
  8. fidlerre

    fidlerre Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    Err, since he joined mid-season wasn't that figure a pro-rated rate?
     
  9. beyondthenormal-s3

    Oct 4, 2009
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    anybody else got a weird feeling that Herrera is going to score a shit ton of goals for us? I have an oddly strange feeling that this is going to work out very well. I have trust that this guy will be worth it, if the team wanted to snatch him up right away. If it does go best case scenario, this year could be a very, very, very good year for us.

    F**k I love this team. Getting the itch already. :D Bring on everybody.
     
  10. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seeeeerrrrrrr-gggggggiiiiii-oooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the signing, and I think it's particularly good that we signed him NOW and that he is already in training in the first week the team is in Florida. Having him this early on in the preseason is a huge plus. He's fit, he's only 28, and he's got a nose for goal. He's only on the hook guaranteed for 1 year if he's a bust. He's a free transfer, no allocation money to pay off another club required. Doesn't matter too much about his English skills, because we have enough guys that can speak both English and Spanish on the team, and most importantly he can easily communicate with Renteria and Guille while they're up top (if those combos are ever used). He fits our cap space, and he could be a guy that stays around for a number of years if he pans out.

    Where are the negatives? He changed clubs a number of times? I'm not convinced that is indicative of a poor player or poor attitude. He's signed without a trial, which means he's been thoroughly scouted (or God, you'd hope so). He has an injury history? Really? I might be looking in the wrong places, but haven't actually read much on that. Guess what, players get injured and still find a way to come back and perform well.

    Stern John is a great memory, but that Stern John isn't who we'd be getting if we signed him today. Let's keep the memories as that, and not try to imagine he'd recapture that former glory in the 2010 Crew side. MLS opposition is much different, and the Stern-Turn is well documented. I'm thinking you'd tarnish the memory by bringing him back and finding disappointing results.

    I too am a bit curious about how our roster pans out now. Just the roster spots has me wondering what will happen, not even thinking of salary cap. Bright Dike looks likely to never see the field, and seems an awful waste of our draft pick now when we could have snared another great midfield prospect (and a GenA at that). In hindsight, we didn't know whether we could get a foreign striker to sign. But even on draft day, I'm not sure how many times we were thinking Dike would make the game day 18.

    The one hope is that the new CBA has a large roster size built into it and a larger cap #. If this is the case, we maybe don't have to worry too much and be glad we have the depth. With all the games the Crew has on the schedule, it might come in handy.

    Also, now that we have Herrera, Renteria, Garey, and Lenhart all as possible starters, I'm wondering if Robert is planning to drop GBS back into the midfield in a 3-5-2 type formation, or perhaps a 4-3-1-2? It would seem like GBS could have another great year for assists with two targets in front and given freedom to roam like el Pibe used to do.

    As for Renteria, I'm more than willing to be patient and see what happens after he's actually had a preseason together with the team and knows the system and his teammates better. He saw spot duty, hardly enough to make a "pull the plug" type decision about the guy.

    Lastly, I find it interesting that even with the roster limitations currently in place, we still have some trialists in camp and our draft picks yet to sign (if we have any room for them). There is going to be very tough competition for the bottom 4-6 spots on this team, which is fantastic. I just really am hopeful we get a larger roster size that will enable us to compete better in the CCL and through the long summer w/o any bye weeks.
     
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  12. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Plus don't we have that Polish kid in? How do you even get all these guys enough scrimmage time in camp?

    The Dike pick was always strange anyway. I don't want to be negative Nellie here but in a couple of years we're going to look back on that as a terribly wasted opportunity. Whatever we were offered for that pick it would have been better than the nothing Dike is going to contribute. How the hell is he ever even going to see the field?

    (And that says nothing about handing Corben Bone to the Fire rather than trading that pick and thereby making sure that he's out of the division. It's called strategy, fellas.)

    Yet now they've cleverly boxed themselves in; you simply can't cut a first round draft choice before the season ever begins. It's an open admission that you were stupid. Teams simply don't do that. Someone very high up - either Bobby or Brian - won the argument at the table and now his ass is on the line. Now his reputation is on the line and the bias will be to give the guy "more time" regardless of how he looks in camp.

    Which means that someone else is going to have to go so that Dike can stay for the sake of someone's pride. Shame on whoever did this and, frankly, shame on Mark McCullers for not supervising the situation better. That's part of his job. I know he doesn't interfere with his technical staff on this stuff very often and rightly so, but he's the guy who's supposed to be able to look down the road and see the situation they're putting themselves in with a rushed, passionate decision in the draft room.

    One thing that Sigi brought was an eye on the Big Picture and that's one aspect it doesn't look like we've replaced, In lieu of that, the buck stops at MM;s desk.

    I also hope that someone hasn't decided on a quantity instead of quality approach where you bring a million guys into camp on the theory that surely one or two of them will turn out to be good. That has never worked in the history of the game.

    Ten average guys cannot take the place of one guy who can play. Oldest adage in sports, right after "don't pick up girls in bars, go hire a hooker instead".

    BTW I hear Mark Blades is really opening some eyes in the Fire camp. How it is we don't have that kid just mystifies me.
     
  13. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    From what I understand both Rice and Blades turned the Crew's trial offer down because they felt they could have a better chance of making a team elsewhere.

    As for Dike, I don't think ego would keep him on the team. If he doesn't show well, he'll be off the team. There might have been some debate on what to do with the pick, however there didn't seem to be any debate among the coaches in thier confidence in Dike. He may not start this year, he may not see much or any time, but does he really need to this year? Isn't that why we have development spots?

    While quantity over quality doesn't work, quantity and quality does. We had a deep team last year and signs are it's shaping up to be even deeper now. We had 20, 21 players that could really contribute last year. This year we'll have 24. And the greatest thing is we're still looking to make that 24 even more compedetive then it is now.
     
  14. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tea leaf reading here, and Robert's not the most communicative guy when it comes to what he tells the media. Still, this did jump out to me (a little) when I read it in one of Shawn's pieces a week ago:

    "The guys that have been playing in front have to score more goals," Warzycha said. "(Jason) Garey, (Steven) Lenhart, Moreno -- between them they scored 11 goals (last season). There has to be more."

    What jumped out was that there wasn't a mention of Guille as one of the guys "playing in front." And I have no problem with that whatsoever. On the flip side, I never really saw last season that Robert had a plan for just how to use Guille effectively in a role where he didn't just hoist the entire offense onto his own shoulders. Now, we had a shitload of injuries, some-mid season roster changes, and several players who, frankly, had crap seasons offensively. So I can understand why Guille's role ended up being so absolutely central.

    But with another year of wear and tear on Guille's legs, I can't see us having much success trying to play this season the way we did last year. Plus, if anything, we have an even more demanding schedule than we did last year. We went into last season with the stated goal of having Guille average 60-70 minutes per game. With all those injuries, Guille's hot start, and the lukewarm starts of out other offensive players, that wasn't realistic. I'd love it if, this season, we were able to manage his time more effectively, and to allow him to play an offensive role that compliments our strikers, rather than replaces them.

    Re: Herrera, I like the feel of the signing. Yeah, I have questions about how the salary works, but I always have a had time wrapping my mind around MLS' salaries. Unless there's some big trade that emerges from nowhere, or unless one of our discovery players/draftees I don't see Robert getting rid of Lenhart, Garey or Renteria. We need options off the bench, and players who'll push each other for starting roles. On paper, I like our striker core a lot more than I liked where we were a year ago. Re: Renteria, I don't see him as a disappointment...yet. I didn't see enough of him last season to really evaluate him.
     
  15. beyondthenormal-s3

    Oct 4, 2009
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Some good thoughts here.
     
  16. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    he seems to have a problem in his knees as he was rejected by 4 Colombian teams (Junior,Nacional,DIM, and Dept Cali) before this move

    He is a good striker but a bit of a premadona.... he threw a fit because he wasn't granteed a starting spot on the NT before Copa America. His numbers are decent but never been a league goal scorer, sets up alot of plays for other players tho

    As for the Montero Comparison..... not even Close..... a 1 footed Montero is 10x better than Herrera
     
  17. footy5

    footy5 Member

    Feb 27, 2008
    The D
    I am going to wait to see him do something in a Crew kit before boasting that this guy is gonna do great things for us. He's got some positives and some questions. Clamoring over him now is too TFC (every guy they sign is the player need to put them over the top).

    One thing I do like is that it seems as if he has banged crzdcolombian's mom, he's not much of a fan.
     
  18. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  19. TheImposter

    TheImposter Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Centerville, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that's known as "making the Canadian playoffs".
     
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  20. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some thoughtful posts here, and I just had a quick question on Dike.

    If he is eligible for the Dev. Roster, and his age indicates he would be, it is not AS bad a pick, because it doesn't squeeze someone else out of the SR.

    I think Robert wants a true #9 in there at all times, and Lenhart and Dike have better size than Renteria.

    My mock 20/24:
    GK (2). Hesmer, Burse (or another GK).
    D (6). Hejduk, Marshall, Brunner, Padula; Zayner, Iro
    D/M (2). O'Rourke, Oughton.
    M (5). Carroll, Rogers, Gaven, Ekpo, Moffat,
    M/F (1). Schelotto.
    F (4). Herrera, Lenhart, Garey, Renteria.

    Dev: Duka (M), Dike (F), Burns (M), Francis (D).
     
  21. Crewkid614

    Crewkid614 New Member

    Sep 17, 2009
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Everybody needs to calm down about renteria...the guy saw action in what 4 games? how can you truly evaluate that? Hes Strong, fast, smart, and he has a CANNON of a shot....please somebody explain how that type of player doesn´t contribute in training or on the field?

    The Forwards we have now are players that have international experience and really have shown that they are PROUD to wear the black and gold..that is something that is very important. Our team seems like a family..hell read the blogs from Zayner and Rogers Twitter you get a vibe that they are so close and its great! You really don´t see that in many teams..who are we kidding...name a team with a locker room as great as ours.

    I am glad they drafted who they did and the Crew is the MOST competitive roster in the MLS. We need 24 solid players and i think we are well on our way. Nobody on this form can write off DIKE yet because we haven´t seen him play. The staff will make the right call whther or not to keep him around.

    I am so happy to hear our players and coaches place so much importance on tournaments and winning. The players we are bringing in are players who are going to get it done. They understand what it takes to win championships. Compare our rosters from the early 2000´s and tell me you aren´t proud of where this team is going. We are well on our way to seperating ourselves from the rest of the MLS and be THE TEAM in north america.
     
  22. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't have a fancy link, but I distinctly remember reading in some post-draft write-up that when Crew took their timeout before picking Dike, we had 5 or 6 offers on the table for our draft pick. The best one apparently was from SJ, offering some kind of trade that included allocation $ and allocation order position. Bliss wanted to take it, and Robbie told him he wanted Dike. To Bill's point, Dike is entirely on Robert's shoulders. IF Dike is a bust and IF Bone is a stud, you know who to blame and who you don't want to be in charge of your draft in the future. If somebody is bored, they can search and find it and provide the link for everybody else.

    As for Sergio, let's hope he was well screened and we know what we're getting and that he'll fit into the chemistry of the team. I'm going to wait and see what happens, but I'm not too concerned. We seem to find ways to unbury some obscure treasures. I mean, look at Padula's history when he first joined the team. It looked like he had hardly played in a couple seasons and was going to be a bomb.

    One last point. I loved Ale Moreno. He had heart, took an absolutel beating and left it all on the field for the Crew. He scored some important goals and he had a love for the Nordecke. But in 2009 his expiration date had been reached. It's not a matter of talent or will, but the fact he relied too much on drawing fouls and not a single MLS ref was going to give him the benefit of the doubt anymore, his game turned south in a hurry. Honestly, I think this hurt his performance just as much as his absence for his national team throughout the year.

    Even if Sergio ends up being a wash and not an improvement over Moreno, at least he isn't coming in with a reputation of being a diver. Is he? I don't know, and you know what? Neither do MLS refs.
     
  23. suspenders1964

    Mar 4, 2000
    D.C. United, bum bum bum bum, D.C. United!

    that whole post was good.
     
  24. Skeleton Crew

    Skeleton Crew Member+

    Mar 20, 2009
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nobody has even considered the Dike was drafted with the thought of converting him into some other position.

    I know at the college level is happens a lot there is shit ton of talent at the forward position coming in...then promptly College changes them into a speedy defender.
    Would make sense to have that option in our...not quite as fast as robbie finley or jeff cunningham defense

    At least it happened a lot at Uni of South Florida when i was there...which :) you might be able to draw some comparisons between USF and the Crew *shrug* I played forward/left mid during club. then left back.

    Just saying the staff might have something up their sleeves?!
     
  25. aaron723

    aaron723 New Member

    Oct 1, 1999
    Springfield, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I like this except from what I've heard there will be 3 GK on roster all season, Schonei will probably be a Dev. Also Duka will not take up a spot I believe as since he is Gen Ad. so that is where the spot for the GK can be.
     

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