2008-09 CONCACAF Champions League - Preliminary Round [R]

hysterical..you guys call yourselfs world champions in every sport. The only sport that u guys are clear winners is american footbal..lol....basketball your number one right now but other teams can beat ya. Soccer obviously not...maybe in the womens level, which basically nobody watches.

When saprissa lost to pachuca, aint nobody making excuses we lost fair and square in a well played series. But MLS teams are always saying if we had last years team, or if these games were played in our midseason form, or if the stars were just aligned just right. A plethora of excuses but at the end of the day results are what matter and u guys havent shown it. well lets see what the dynamo and dc united do in " mid season" form against a santons, cruz azul or saprissa in mid season form.
* there is nothing wrong showing love for your country just dont let that patriotism blind you.

 

For practical reason's you're right, but technically you're wrong. France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico and I think maybe Canada rolleyes have pro leagues. Not that any of them are all that good but they are there.

In fact (why I'm I wasting time on this?) the first 2 world cup of american football finals were won by Japan. The won almost entirely because the USA team didn't go to those. When we did send a team we barely beat Japan. I'm not sure why, because we didn't send pros but we did send college kids. They should have been better.

Wait, who cares? Where were we...

(Great, there's you (almost) useless sports trivia lesson for the day... )

 

We only happen to have the top hockey league in the world and perennially haven done well in just about every international competition they competed in, and we may not have a gold medal in baseball or the world baseball classic, but lets face it, honestly, you're going to say the US doesn't have the best baseball league and players in the world? If you knew anything about baseball you'd know one game means nothing which is why they play series and that presently the Olympics and WBC are worthless. Maybe that's why they are getting rid of baseball in the Olympics; probably because people want to see the American stars and not these semi-pro wannabees. Even if we had some how managed to not win the Gold in basketball, you're going to tell me that the US doesn't have the best league and players in the world? Literally, the four best basketball players in the world were on the US team. We always seem to win the most medals in the Olympics and isn't it funny, that smaller teams and even teams you probably consider to be the "best" at a team sport continually measure themselves based on whether they can "beat the Americans" (pretty much the french modo when it comes to anything). Rugby volleyball, and cricket, should not be mentioned in the same breath as the other sports but if it makes you feel better about yourself and your country that the US isn't currently the best in them, by all means. My references were more about MLS than team sports, and implying that MLS will one day have the success across the globe that our other professional leagues do, but apparently, you took offense and felt compelled to try to downgrade the US accomplishments in the world sports scene? Maybe you didn't watch too much of the Olympics?

 

Look, I was agreeing with you. Honestly, I think Saprissa is a better team than the best MLS teams. Where were my excuses? MLS teams haven't been good enough in the international tournaments. I may have said that money was a big factor, not an excuse but a reality. How are MLS teams going to beat international competition when a third of their roster makes $17,000/year? MLS and its teams have a long way to go but we'll get there eventually, it just may take a good chunk of time. And honestly, I don't expect much from DC and Houston in the tournament, especially considering DC's group is extremely tough. Should be an interesting tournament and MLS and its teams should benefit somehow from it. Who knows, if they lose bad enough maybe management will start trying to fix some of these stupid problems and politics within the league.

 

I am not saying that your team didnt beat Puntarenas, I am saying they barely beat them... and yes we have a bad start, but we will win this championship again, you will see....

 

You need to back this up with links. I posted exactly the opposite, expressing that I was sanquine about MLS chances in this tournament.

You haters just make stuff up.

 

i understand what your saying, the mls should be able to pay their player better. I agree they are of course in the richest country , so i see your point. But money is not everything man, there maybe a lack of motivation or something. i mean the saprissa payroll is one the best in the country but compare to mexico or the MLS is pretty small. So there is something going here besides just money or talent. Because i have seeing MLS teams play real tough when they are motivated. But until another MLS team does well in one these tournaments then the teams there wouldnt be as motivated to play these games.

 

22 Champions

Cruz Azul and Pumas aren't champions.

 

Can we get some real facts about the Saprissa payroll? I'm honestly curious.

For reference: Top salaries in MLS are $300,000 US - $400,000 US. Total team payroll is $2.3 million US, which puts the average at about $83,000 US. (2.3m/28 roster slots). I've excluded designated players like Blanco and Beckham because there can only be one per team and most teams don't have one.

 

Yea little Jamaica really trashed you guys in the olympic's sprint competitions. I think you guys went 0-6.

 

Sorry about having to play at Rod Carew, maybe advancing to the next round will open up ownerships eyes, and Tauro's players and fans will FINALLY get a decent pitch they can call their own. Carew is mulituse, true, but it still sucks for futbol.. hopefully rommel will be finished soon (construction company's on a 5 month delay, looking like 7 months lately, bastards)

 

When has Cruz Azul played a MLS team at Estadio Azul?

 

[/quote]Rugby volleyball, and cricket, should not be mentioned in the same breath as the other sports but if it makes you feel better about yourself and your country that the US isn't currently the best in them, by all means. My references were more about MLS than team sports, and implying that MLS will one day have the success across the globe that our other professional leagues do, but apparently, you took offense and felt compelled to try to downgrade the US accomplishments in the world sports scene? Maybe you didn't watch too much of the Olympics?[/quote]

SO RUGBY,VOLLEYBALL AND CRICKET, are not worth mentioning because your country is not good at them, so why should we care about american football,basketball, etc,the way i see it every sport is worth mentioning in the world sport scene,and i saw the olympic games, i saw china getting more gold medals,so for someone claiming USA is pretty much the king of every sport, i did not see the usa team getting away with the first place in gold medals, and leaving the second place very far behind ,i saw china 1st place USA 2nd place and russia close in 3rd place, so i ask myself ,where is the overwhelming superiority?

 

FYP, believe me the fans like me love to see Pumas do well on any tournament, but our current coach only cares about the local tournament and keeping his job. He has declined an invitation to Superliga and sent kids to play the Interliga,if it were up to him I bet he wouldn't accept to play on the CCL.

 

Just cuz you have the best baseball and Hockey leagues doesnt mean the US is the best in those sports. Just look at England for example. Canada is the best at Hockey hands down, they have tons of Gold medals both in the Olympics and in the World championships, hell even sweeden and Russia have done better than the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IIHF_World_Championship_tournaments

Regarding baseball, the US does have a lot of great baseball players but so do Latin Countries and Japan. Just look at the teams rosters and they are filled with quality Latin players.

Rugby and Cricket are played by more countries than both baseball and Football combined. Rugby has the Fourth most important sports event in the planet.
1-FIFA WC
2-Olympics
3-EURO
4-RUGBY WC

Just cuz the US sucks fat monkey balls in almost every important sport in the World doesnt mean we shouldnt count them as legitimate sports.

 

nobody fills their stadium like monterrey and tigres. if they were in the CCL it would be a packed house every time.

 

No he wasn't making things up, I made him mad when I said I think Dynamo has as good a chance as anybody.

I'll have to keep reminding myself that optimistic people are threatening to some people. Something like this load of BS:

Boy, was I wrong about NE. Like I've said before, that's the last time I ever talk them up.

 

Not looking good for the PR Islanders - LDA match. It's been raining like crazy in Puerto Rico for most of the day.