Rotation Watch 2007/2008

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  1. reds8daysaweek

    Jul 19, 2006
    Pittsburgh
    Great idea. I remember reading an article/blog posting/some sort of online written thingamajig a few days back that actually did count the amount of changes made through the course of last season (for the big 4), and Rafa had made grand total of like 2 more changes than the next highest team. I'll see if I can find the article

    edit: it's the Thommo article on the first page of this thread...bad habit of not reading the whole thread before I post!
     
  2. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    I could do it more easily in Excel, if you want. Either attach the file or just put up a screenshot. Just let me know.
     
  3. SiriuslyCold

    SiriuslyCold Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Malaysia
    Nat'l Team:
    Malaysia
    OK here's the spreadsheet

    If anyone can or wants to help update the MatchDays sheet, PM me an email address and you will get an invite

    the P (games played) column is automated, if we put a club acronym in the column next to it, it will get a value=1

    the PLayers column is temporary - leave blank for the time being. I intended it for keeping track of how many players the team uses throughout the season

    Totals are displayed in the Summary sheet which we can sort at the end

    Do we want to keep track of Cup matches (UCL, FA Cup, Worthington)?
     
  4. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    You forgot Tottenham.
     
  5. canadianscraggledog

    canadianscraggledog New Member

    Jun 26, 2005
    London, Canada
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Man, you guys have a lotta free time :D
     
  6. CCSC_STRIKER20

    CCSC_STRIKER20 New Member

    May 14, 2005
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm in college, between sleeping and socializing I need to find something to do. My parents say schoolwork...I say not.
     
  7. SiriuslyCold

    SiriuslyCold Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Malaysia
    Nat'l Team:
    Malaysia
    ok they're in.
     
  8. catenaccio_L'pool

    Oct 21, 2005
    Top Of The Table
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    LOL...that's what I think too...but this topic had been discussed before and there are backers on both sides - these fine gents just decided to find out who's right once and for all:D
     
  9. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    It's a classic wedge project. Lots of effort at start-up, it runs itself once you're on your way.

    Once you slackers all leave college, you can probably put this on your CV's. I might even spring you all a reference. :D
     
  10. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    You can keep track of Cup matches if you like, however I do not intend to. This is because comparing number of rotations in Cup matches can be less meaningful as some teams will play more cup matches than others. For example Liverpool made less FA Cup lineup changes than Arsenal last year for obvious reasons. The point was to show if Rafa's changes in the Prem impact our results and how these changes compare with his rivals.

    Are you planning to store the lineups? I am still planning to add them here.
     
  11. SiriuslyCold

    SiriuslyCold Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Malaysia
    Nat'l Team:
    Malaysia
    wasn't planning to store lineups - the spreadsheet will be summary and totals. When you do the next round of matches, you can just put the actual number of changes from match to match and we can use the sheet to total up the number of changes. if that makes sense at the end.

    on the summary worksheet we can put percentages (points vs changes and other little tidbits we can calculate)

    I wish someone would work on a ajax embedding code like [ YOUTUBE= ] [ /YOUTUBE ] :p
     
  12. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Team: Spurs
    Fixture: Spurs vs Everton
    Lineup: Robinson, Chimbonda, Gardner, Stalteri, Yaboul, Jenas, Zokora, Malbranque, Bent, Berbatov and Keane.

    Games played: 2
    Changes from last game: 1 Bent in; Tainio out
    Match Result: Loss
    Total lineup changes so far: 1

     
  13. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. Crown Paints

    Crown Paints New Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Barnsley
  15. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 30, 2005
    Sydney
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    My fav. line as well! :D Sounds like he getting the English/Aussie sense of humour more every day!!
     
  16. RealMadGunner

    RealMadGunner Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I have a doubt ..

    Spurs have 2 line ups until now .. What if they use the line up used in the first game at a later point of time during the season ? Or say, they use it the next game .. So total number of different line ups will be 2 or 3 ? Keeping track of something liek that could be a little tedious ..
     
  17. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London

    I am not counting the number of times each unique lineup starts. In a 38 game season there is likely to be 25+ unique lineups for each Big 5 club. However I am listing the lineups here so if someone wants to keep track of them they can. I am keeping track of changes from game to game. This is rotation watch, not unique lineup watch ;)
     
  18. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Team: Man Utd
    Fixture: Man Utd @ Portsmouth
    Lineup:
    Van Der Sar, Brown, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, C Ronaldo, Carrick, Scholes, Nani, Giggs, Tevez
    Games played: 2
    Changes from last game: 2 Nani and Tevez in
    ; Silvestre and Rooney out.
    Match Result: Draw
    Total lineup changes so far: 2
     
  19. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Team: Chelsea
    Fixture: Chelsea @ Reading
    Lineup:
    Cech, Ferreira, Ben Haim, Carvalho, Cole, Wright-Phillips, Sidwell, Lampard, Malouda, Drogba, Kalou
    Games played: 2
    Changes from last game:
    3 Ferreira, Sidwell and Drogba in; Johnson, Essien and Pizarro out
    Match Result: Win
    Total lineup changes so far: 3
     
  20. RealMadGunner

    RealMadGunner Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ok, i guess this is the way to do it .. I misunderstood .. This also shows how consistent is each manager with his lineups, in the absence of injuries etc. .. Interesting .. And just for the record, Arsenal fielded the same team (Fulham game) against Sparta Prague ..
     
  21. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Team: Spurs
    Fixture: Spurs vs Derby County
    Lineup:
    Robinson, Chimbonda, Gardner, Rocha, Lee, Routledge, Jenas, Huddlestone, Malbranque, Bent and Keane.
    Games played: 3
    Changes from last game: 4
    OUT: Stalteri, Yaboul, Zokora, Berbatov;
    IN: Rocha, Lee, Routledge, Huddlestone
    Match Result: Win
    Total lineup changes so far: 5




     
  22. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Team: Liverpool
    Fixture: Liverpool vs Chelsea
    Lineup:
    Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Agger, Arbeloa, Pennant, Gerrard, Alonso, Riise, Torres, Kuyt.
    Games played: 2
    Changes from last game: 0
    OUT: N/A
    IN: N/A
    Match Result: Draw
    Total lineup changes so far: 0

     
  23. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Team: Chelsea
    Fixture: Chelsea @ Liverpool
    Lineup:
    Cech, Ben Haim, Terry, A Cole, Essien, Wright-Phillips, Mikel, Lampard, Malouda, Drogba, Kalou
    Games played: 3
    Changes from last game: 3
    OUT: Ferreira, Carvalho, Sidwell
    IN: Terry, Essien, Mikel
    Match Result: Draw
    Total lineup changes so far: 6
     
  24. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Team: Man Utd
    Fixture: Man Utd @ Man City
    Lineup:
    Van Der Sar, Brown, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Hargreaves, Scholes, Carrick, Giggs, Nani, Tevez.
    Games played: 3
    Changes from last game: 1
    OUT: C Ronaldo
    IN:
    Hargreaves

    Match Result: Loss
    Total lineup changes so far: 3
     
  25. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Team: Arsenal
    Fixture: Arsenal @ Blackburn Rovers
    Lineup:
    Lehmann, Sagna, Toure, Gallas, Clichy, Flamini, Fabregas, Hleb, Walcott, Eduardo, Van Persie
    Games played: 2
    Changes from last game: 2
    OUT: Rosicky, Eboue
    IN:
    Walcott, Eduardo
    Match Result: Draw
    Total lineup changes so far: 2
     

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