NISA (New NASL-allied D3 league) Mega-Thread

Discussion in 'NASL' started by oneeyedfool, Jun 6, 2017.

  1. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    They didn't apply until after the spring deadline, so they wouldn't have been included here, anyway.
     
  5. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh. Honestly didn’t see this coming.

     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Second time in six months Riccardo Silva has screwed over a fledgling league trying to get off the ground. That has to be some kind of record.
     
  7. Doogh

    Doogh Member+

    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If only NISA had a mechanism like single entity or a clause like what USL has where teams aren't allowed to move to another league if the team owner/investor is choosing to leave.

    Actually no, that doesn't sound that independent of them.
     
  8. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean, good for him, but it's not like the team's gonna regain that spark they once had during the last few years of the NASL, not to mention frigging Inter Miami is starting up in a few months (and surprisingly, their home opener will be sooner than I imagined).

    This is gonna be a shitshow.
     
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  9. aetraxx7

    aetraxx7 Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    Des Moines, IA
    Club:
    Des Moines Menace
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right?! Not to mention the planned Ft. Lauderdale USL team that Inter Miami will launch in the not-too-distant future.
     
  10. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And it's official.
    Currently, the USL team will be in League One and will probably play to 80-100 fans (probably the homeless and/or relatives of the players involved) if it's treated as a true reserve team, but a possible move to a higher level and a chance at legitimacy at being treated as something like the Ft. Lauderdale Strikers, then it may eat into the Miami FC's audience.
     
  11. aetraxx7

    aetraxx7 Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    Des Moines, IA
    Club:
    Des Moines Menace
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right, I figured that would be the case... I was more or less questioning whether there is enough interest to support all three levels in Miami. After all, it is a notoriously fickle sports market. My thinking is that Inter will have plenty of support and those looking for a family-friendly, affordable option would be drawn to the reserves. Considering FC has been a dumpster fire that plans on joining its fourth league in a very short time span, while going counter to its long-stated goal of avoiding the MLS-USL mainstream, I just do not see a lot of support coming their way.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    I think it's a little more complicated than that, though.
    1. Inter and Inter 2 will be playing about an hour outside of Miami, whereas FC will be playing within the city - if your goal is an "affordable option", unless you already live around Ft. Lauderdale, it may be FC
    2. Depends a lot on who wins

    FC is certainly capable of drawing like the Rowdies (5-6k) and being competitive simply by having the geographic advantage.
    That said, they've never been a major draw (attendance-wise), so who knows.
     
  13. aetraxx7

    aetraxx7 Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    Des Moines, IA
    Club:
    Des Moines Menace
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For now, at least until (if) Inter's stadium gets built.
     
  14. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Currently, both Inter Miami and their reserve club are playing at Not Called Lockhart Stadium Anymore, but they will move closer to Miami proper when said stadium is actually built. Also, who knows how much Miami FC will charge. Sure, Florida prides itself on low and nonexistent taxes, but places often counter those with high admission and entertainment fees (unless you're the Florida State League, where you're probably just giving those tickets away in most markets). Miami FC might end up being the most expensive USL Championship team there is.
    2. That may be true, but you always have to consider that Florida is a lousy sports market, especially if the teams are losers. Orlando City may be getting decent attendance right now, but eventually fans will get tired of the team underperforming, and I don't know if the newness factor will be sustainable for Inter Miami. I don't think Miami FC will be able to get those 5K figures they had during their NASL run so easily unless they are pretty dominant on the pitch right out of the gate. Casual fans like winners.

    In the meantime, let's just look at the sorry state of NISA right now; the Cosmos won't arrive for another year, the Fury are unorganized, they still haven't confirmed or denied the existence of those New England clubs, and it seems like the southeast has to be anchored entirely around the town of Chattanooga.

    But, think about that zero admission fee.
     
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  15. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Currently, the Lockhart Stadium renovation (it's still Lockhart, dammit) is coming along faster than I thought, given I expected the team to play the first half of the MLS season on the road like Portland did this past season and DC United the year before that, with Inter Miami having a home opener in March. However, as for their actual home stadium, I haven't heard anything after that chemical composition story as far as soil replacement at the site.
     
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  16. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    This certainly implies that there will be no Cosmos B next year, since they had qualified for USOC through the NPSL.
     
  18. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Speculation that with Fort Worth Vaqueros getting a USOC invitation, this may mean Atlanta SC might not be playing in the spring:

    The assumption is that their invitation is at the expense of a pro slot (and Atlanta would be the most likely candidate) but I don't think that has been confirmed.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There won't be a Cosmos B unless they turn amateur.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Sure, but Cosmos B was originally more of a U-23 side than a reserve team, IIRC. I don't think the NPSL team was professional until after NASL collapsed.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    More evidence towards Atlanta SC being the likely reason for another berth:
     
  23. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    That read less as a "dig" to me and more that NISA doesn't have forever to get its shit together: the longer they remain amateur hour and don't improve the perception of stability, the greater the likelihood of clubs jumping to USL. And if that happens, it exacerbates their problem.
    Basically, the clubs that are there prefer to be there, but ultimately, they're going to have to do whatever they have to to survive.
    But at the same time, USL should want DCFC, Oakland, Cosmos, CFC, etc. But there's not really another verb for that than "poach".
     

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