Earning his stripes: Timothy Weah at Juventus

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What should we name the thread?

Poll closed Jul 6, 2019.
  1. Where there’s a Lille, there’s a Weah! Tim at LOSC

    71 vote(s)
    56.8%
  2. Say hello to my Lille friend! Tim Weah at LOSC

    54 vote(s)
    43.2%
  1. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ^this^

    When I read about the original injury my initial thought was that he would be out for half the season. I was hoping for better.... but the Adams situation has conditioned me to expect the worst.

    It is beyond odd that so many of our best players keep getting injured. At this point one has to wonder if it really is just bad luck?.? I wouldn't know how to identify just what is the cause of the problem though.
     
  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    There really isn't any commonality between the players, so it really seems like bad luck. Some come through MLS academies, some through the DA system, some through Euro academies, have varying levels of playing time at various levels, and they're all constantly injured. It's bizarre.
     
  3. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    This, of course, is the key. The difference between consistently good to great and sometimes good to great is consistently good to great teams have very slight drops in quality from #1 to #2 and can weather injuries better.

    Sometimes our top is very good, but rarely the fat middle just below the top.
     
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  4. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    It's the same as clubs that the press describe as having an "injury crisis" when there aren't many or even any broken bones in the physio's room. That kind of injury crisis means that the club actually has a fitness crisis: poor-quality sports medicine staff and/or facilities or the coach rushing players back from injury before they're fully recovered.

    In the US context, it's the youth structure: too many competitive but developmentally counter-productive games in adolescence that stress and strain immature bodies. Like England in the 90s and early 00s, there's too much emphasis on being the winningest U-14 travel team in X State or region and not enough on technique and spatial awareness, only in the States there's also pay-to-play creating perverse incentives to play more games than even the most traditionalist English coaches back then would have accepted.
     
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  5. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. That's an awesome set of generalizations.
     
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  6. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't want to generalize since I don't have any figures to actually look at but for clubs that do there seems to be a need to do a soccer version of a pitch count from baseball with it going up as players get older. In a recent Dortmund article
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-plans-to-future-proof-their-transfer-tactics they discuss going after even younger players since the best 18-20 year olds are becoming so pricey and out of reach of any but the richest clubs.
     
  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Soon they'll make the pregnant wives of former top players sign contracts on their male fetuses promising them to the clubs once they can kick a ball.
     
  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yes.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stud farms for retired players.
     
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  10. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    It’s embarrassing how poor these clubs’ staffs are. They honestly have a lot to learn from the NFL/NBA.
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weah has been in France since he was 14.
     
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  12. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Don't stop the rant.
     
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  13. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    I didn’t say anything to the contrary? Was just commenting regarding most european football medical staffs not being as strong as the staffs for the NBA teams etc.
     
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  14. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    most aren’t nearly as rich either. Lille has like 1/10th the budget of an NBA team.
     
  15. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    The Lille French team has lost its Weah? Not exactly, but it has lost two of its assistant coaches ...

    https://www.ligue1.com/autresCompetitions/article/lille-out-to-salvage-pride-in-clash-with-ajax.htm

    "{Lille manager Christophe} ... Galtier, who is still bitter at the manner in which two members of his staff - assistant coach João Sacramento and goalkeeping coach Nuno Santos - departed to join compatriot José Mourinho at Tottenham Hotspur last week.

    ....

    "We need to look forward, defend our honour, our project, our game. They have left and it doesn't matter how it happened. But the feeling of betrayal is there and that needs to be digested. And we are digesting it."
     
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  16. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  17. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    I wonder if Lille will bring Weah to London next week, so he can cheer for CP in person.
     
  18. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  19. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, they bought him to have an impact, not to be a development project. Hopefully he gets fit, stays healthy and gets a chance.
     
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  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I wonder where that chance will be.

    Lille have primarily run a 4-2-3-1 this year, and Victor Osimhen has done well in that striker role - he has 9 goals in 16 and won Ligue 1 POTM in September. Maybe Weah can stake a claim to the right wing? They ran Renato Sanches out there recently, and he is decidedly a central midfielder, so they might need some better options there.
     
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  21. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    He was playing the 10 or SS prior to his injury.
     
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  22. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    As he eases himself back in, I'd like to see him play stationary striker for a game or two.
     
  23. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well it looks like they definitely need another goal scoring threat, with only 21 goals in 17 games and a tenuous grasp on 3rd at 28 points - Stade Rennes is 1 point back but with a game in hand - and Nice, in 13th place, has 23 points...so lots of congestion in the middleish half of the table.
     
  24. kba4life1

    kba4life1 Member+

    Jul 14, 2010
    Irvine, CA
    Aside from Oshimen, the rest of their attackers have thoroughly average production thus far this season. Weah should hopefully receive substantial playing time when he’s healthy.
     
  25. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    That the #3 team in Ligue 1 looked so weak in Europe is a big black eye for the league, too, let's be frank.
     

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