Ulysses' Odyssey, cont'd: Llanez at SKN St. Pölten

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  1. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #201 bshredder, Nov 7, 2019
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    I don’t know specifically. Maybe there wasn’t a release or maybe Kreis just went with older players.

    It’s very hard to play up an Olympic cycle. Uly is eligible for both the 2021 U-20 team & the 2024 U-23 Olympic team. Mendez & Ledezma are eligible for neither of those teams. There is plenty of more opportunities to work with Uly in the US setup before the full NT (unlike the other guys you mentioned).

    In the first 4 camps of the U-23 cycle, there have been a few players getting called up who are eligible for the 2024 U-23 team (Reyna, Araujo, Cardoso, Ochoa) but in this camp, no one is playing up.

    It is what it is.

    If I was going to put one player on this U-23 roster who is eligible for next cycle, it’d probably be Miljevic over Llanez. I know a big thing right now among some in the fan base is to downplay importance of first team minutes. I disagree. They’re rightfully prioritized by most people. First team minutes are just a whole different level in terms of playing 1) against and with developed adults 2) for more meaningful points in the standings and 3) against and with people who are fighting for their jobs so they can feed their families, pay their mortgages, etc

    I suspect a lot of the urge to have Uly on this roster is mostly due to the fact that people are worried that unless he’s rushed through the system at rapid pace, he’s going to bolt for Mexico. When you take a step back and think about it, he’s progressing through the the YNT system at a nice pace for a top prospect - which he is.
     
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  2. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    Thanks this is helpful. I have zero concern about him going to Mexico. Just was curious about a couple selections (specifically Mendez) over Uly. My perspective is that the full USMNT should be for players getting first team mins, other than very rare exceptions. I’m more open to it at the u23 level and was curious about Uly given that several guys on this roster aren’t playing first team ball.
     
  3. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    I have at least some concern that Uly will defect to Mexico now that he isn't even on the U23 Olympic Squad... but if the fed has discussed it with him (preferably in person) and stated that they want him as a cornerstone piece of the 2021 U20 WC squad then I can kind of understand.
     
  4. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Why would it be Mendez over Uly? They don’t play the same position.
     
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  5. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    I recognize that but they’re both attacking players who aren’t playing first team football.
     
  6. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

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    Los Angeles
    #206 Peretz48, Nov 10, 2019
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  7. USSoccerNova

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    #207 USSoccerNova, Nov 10, 2019
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    As a prospect, I'm pretty high on Uly given that he possesses a nice combination of athleticism and skill that should translate well to higher levels. His production playing up with our u20s as well as his strong start with Wolfsburg's u19s is also promising.

    I don't know much about Wolfsburg, but statistically they've conceded the fewest goals in the Bundesliga but are tied for second worst in goals scored. That they're solidly mid-table despite struggling badly on offense hopefully bodes well for LLanez to get a chance to impress with the first team over winter break.

    Anyway, top prospect who should be managed carefully by USSF given his dual national status and representation.
     
  8. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    Uly has scored in almost every game he has played so far this season. Pretty impressive. Wolfsburg could use him... if they like him we should see him before the season closes.
     
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  9. DMTerp02

    DMTerp02 Member+

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    Are they playing Uly on the wing or more as a CAM? That's a ton of goals for a winger.
     
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  10. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    if healthy hes gotta get promoted after winter break right?
     
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  11. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

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    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
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    He’s been playing as a 10, but also on the right wing from what I’ve gathered.
     
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  12. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    Latest uly goal rather sick
     
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  13. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

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  14. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

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    Los Angeles
    #214 Peretz48, Nov 11, 2019
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    GK should have saved it, but it shows Uly's skill.
     
  15. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    Silver lining of him not being included on the u23 side is that he'll get some extensive 1st team looks in training (and perhaps a friendly if they have one) during the international break.
     
  16. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    Since CP is not playing for the USMNT in November, GB should call Uly up to play left wing.
     
  17. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    The only sick thing about the goal is that keeper was probably playing sick. It hit him straight in the gloves, and he managed to let it in.
     
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  18. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
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    CMon... give the kid credit for the bend. But I can understand why you would call out the GK... he must have weak hands.
     
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  19. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

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    This one at 1:14 was better but it shows that he has the skill to score goals like these:

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  20. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
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    Thanks for posting this. Wow. He had some really nice runs in this one. Was that two goals and an assist? Looks faster than I originally gave him credit for.
     
  21. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    I hope he will be among the kids that go to NT after OG. So, no credit for the bend. It's a law bar.
     
  22. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Maybe with the 1st team during the winter break?

     
  23. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He needs to move up and there’s no reason for them to wait. I don’t think it’s good for him to stay and tear up the U-19 league. Move up to more suitable challenges.
     
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  24. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    No, he should leave him with his club so he can hopefully train with the first team and make a case for first team minutes after the winter break. This is a big opportunity for him to break through with a solid club. We shouldn’t be calling kids up to the NT in this manner anyway.
     
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  25. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    Uly has the shot that not many Americans have. It's one of the huge skill gaps we seem to have versus the rest of the world -- we simply don't have a ton of guys who can place shots in a game setting.
     

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