News: Dutch players at home and abroad worthy to be tracked in connection with the Dutch NT - Part 4

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  1. nurvin

    nurvin Member

    Feb 11, 2011
    Maybe van Dijk and de Ligt they can go forward if there is a corner but for most of the time they have to defend. Up front we need someone who can score a lot. I don't think that Luuk de Jong, Janssen or anybody else is ahead of Weghorst for the centre forward spot in this moment.
     
  2. nurvin

    nurvin Member

    Feb 11, 2011
    Has anybody followed Guus Til and Michel Vlap recently? They were quite promising but not sure if they are now oranje material.
     
  3. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    Kluivert was sent off today as he got two yellow cards. It really is sad to see how bad he has become. If it was not for his name he would be in the Eredivisie on a team like RKC.

    I hope one day the switch turns on his head and he turns it around but he just has no iq out there
     
  4. Brilliant Dutch

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    Kluivert got a red card for Roma today
     
  5. Brilliant Dutch

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    Luukinho finally scored his 1st goal for Sevilla today.
    Deserved too, he missed a sitter earlier.

    Sevilla coach needs to start him and Chicharito together, they link up very well
     
  6. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
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    Feyenoord
    Would he be a starter if he stayed at Ajax?
     
  7. Orange14

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    Don't know. He had a good season and maybe if he extended they would have sold Neres.
     
  8. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    His development has stalled so much that right now he wouldn't be. But who knows if he would have stayed at Ajax. Things could be completely different. Right now with the talent he has, he would not be starting at Ajax if his last name was Smith
     
  9. Brilliant Dutch

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    Kluivert's development would not have stalled if he had stayed at Ajax IMO.

    But he went to the wrong League, and at way too early of an age
     
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  10. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    De Ligt just missed an easy header which resulted in a goal. Real poor stuff from him
     
  11. Brilliant Dutch

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    I just got home and saw the awful tweets about him. He might not be ready for Europe yet, maybe he shouldve stayed in NL for a year or two
     
  12. Orange14

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    I only saw the 2nd half and he played OK. He had a couple of great interventions and was quick on passing the ball out of the back. Big problem with Juve is their MF is very poor and they didn't upgrade it at all during the summer.
     
  13. Brilliant Dutch

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  14. Frysk Bloed

    Frysk Bloed Member

    Sep 6, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    de Ligt was overhyped as I said before. Ajax had a great system with great players that worked so well as a collective and they've barely missed a beat losing two big talents in de Ligt and de Jong in the summer. He's got a lot of talent but the people comparing him to van Dijk and calling him one of the best in the world already were jumping the gun; he's not at that level yet.

    Also, Robin Gosens looks a very solid player to me I agree that his eligibility should be explored.
     
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  15. PuckVanHeel

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    Ajax does miss De Jong really. Their midfield is not the same.
     
  16. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
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    This cannot happen or will happen because somebody is undisputed right now.
     
  17. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    At the same age, van Dijk was toiling away at Groningen and nobody predicted he would be the dominant defender in the world. Of course de Ligt is not at that level and maybe he never will be, that's for the future to say.
     
  18. Frysk Bloed

    Frysk Bloed Member

    Sep 6, 2014
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    Right, and nobody is saying de Ligt can't reach that level. It's the people that were saying he was already there that were overhyping, which is what I was referring to.
     
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  19. Bran

    Bran Member

    Nov 18, 2010
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    People who rip into De Ligt for that mistake are being a little bit too harsh. The main problem with Juve as has already been mentioned in this thread is their awful midfield, which forces Sarri to play with a high line defense where defenders are almost midfielders. The problem with this is when you lose the ball like De Ligt did you are wide open and in deep trouble. Which is also why Bonucci looked so bad at that goal. De Ligt still has ways to go however as he still looked lost and didn't really show confidence.
     
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  20. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    De Ligt concedes another penalty today. It's so sad to see him play right now. He has the talent but left one year too early and having such a tough time adjusting
     
  21. Orange14

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    Klaasen with another goal for Werder in a 2-2 tie with Leverkusen.
     
  22. BaritoPutra

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    Jan 26, 2007
  23. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

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  24. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    Looks like Dest is choosing USA. Tough loss for Netherlands with it being such a poor position for them and not many promising prospects coming up either.
     
  25. Brilliant Dutch

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