Qatar 2022

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Walia Ibex

    Walia Ibex Red Card

    Arsenal
    Ethiopia
    Oct 2, 2019
    So there is no way Australia can swoop in and takeover this world cup as last minute hosts..
     
  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    There is no way..
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Answer is simple: Not travelling to Qatar.

    Sure one person not going isn't going to make a dent, but enough people follow and an impact will be felt (like with most boycotts). Wouldn't be surprised if we go back to pre-1990 levels in terms of # of travelling supporters going to a WC.
     
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  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Interesting.

    Qatar has mentioned that they are going to allow people from India to come in and out of the country very easily during the tournament. Maybe they can give them home team discounts for any match to make them seat fillers.
     
  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I mean, India is a populated country but how many people care about soccer to the point where they'll spend precious resources going to a country like Qatar? How many people from India went to Russia, who also made it easy to enter?
     
  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    India was within the top 10 in tickets sold outside of Russia.
    I think more would have the incentive to go to Qatar. Especially since all the soccer venues are so close to each other.
    But how much more? And would it be enough to fill up stadiums? Those are tough questions to answer. I was just thinking of a way for them to fill up the seats.
     
  7. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Do we know what time the games will be?
     
  8. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    https://punditarena.com/football/mcorry/kick-off-qatar-world-cup-fifa/

    J
     
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  9. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
  10. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Try being on the west coast. Game time for the first games will be 2 am PST and the late game is at 11 am. If I wasn’t already purposely boycotting 2022 timing would ensure I wasn’t watching anyway.
     
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  11. LargeGuyBobby

    LargeGuyBobby New Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Oct 7, 2019
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Had to make a new acct for some reason couldn't open my old. But I'm back!
     
  12. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    You're lucky. My kickoff times are midnight, 3AM and 6AM. If they do go with the very early game on the days with 4 non final group round matches then we get a game at 9PM.
     
  13. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I would expect India, Pakistan and Bangladesh to have a strong traveling presence in Qatar 2022. Leaving aside proximity and flight connections, they have an advantage many others won't. Their relatives living in Qatar. The expat community from these nations is huge in the GCC including Qatar. About 25% of Qatar's population is Indian. Staying with your family or friends in a World Cup where the number of hotel rooms is a concern will be an attractive proposition.
     
  14. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Next Tuesday's Korean derby will be played in Pyongyang, the first time I can recall the South playing there.

    In qualifying for 2010, the North played their home game in Shanghai because the government refused to allow the South's flag to be flown and anthem to be played in Pyongyang.
     
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  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :eek::eek::eek:
     
  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Ouch! I would say somewhere between NZ and Hawaii is the worst place to be for this WC. You 2 aren't far away though. There will be more days with 4 matches given the condensed schedule of this WC. Usually there is only 1 such day IIRC.
     
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  17. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will they allow it this time?
     
  18. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    The answer to that question will probably change 5 to 6 times before kick-off.

    J
     
  19. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-s...keep-world-cup-fans-entertained-idUKKBN1WQ05F

    Sounds like there's a solid plan in place to fill up the seats, i.e. boredom. Don't need to attract a huge number of fans, will struggle to accommodate them anyway. Simply get fans to attend more games, e.g. offer ticket packages.
     
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  20. Gistavo Amaral

    Jun 28, 2014
    Recife
    Club:
    Nautico Recife
    I hope any plan fails hard
     
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  21. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Taken from another forum.

    According to the Nations League 2021-22 regulations, that were published weeks ago, UEFA's 2022 World Cup qualifying format is already decided.

    It will be 10 groups (5x5 teams, 5x6 teams), with group winners qualifying directly to WC, while 10 runners-up and 2 teams from UNL go to the play-offs. It is unclear whether the two UNL play-off participants will be selected from a pool of all UNL teams, or from certain UNL Leagues, or just from UNL teams that were third-placed in WC qualifiers. The play-offs are a one-leg affair, with a semifinal and a final played in March 2022. It is unclear whether any seeding will be applied in the play-offs draw.

    If one or more teams that will be involved in a play-out to remain in League C qualify for the WC play-offs, no play-out will be played, and 47th and 48th ranked team are relegated automatically to League D.

    UNL final-four contestants will be placed into groups of 5 teams, which means that the WC qualifying draw cannot be made before the end of November 2020, most likely using the November FIFA ranking, though I'm not entirely convinced they won't go with UNL rankings to seed the qualifiers again. If they intend to use FIFA rankings to seed the teams, there is a possibility that not all UNL final-four participants will be in the same pot, so more draw restrictions would be needed.

    The calendar for the Nations League 2022-23 is especially interesting. Four of the six rounds will be played in June 2022, between 2-14 June. The remaining two rounds will be played in the September international window, but not in the first week like it has been for decades, but rather between 22-27 September 2022. This will create huge changes in the CL/EL calendar for the season 2022-23.

    The calendar does not suggest any room for WC warm-up friendlies both in October and November 2022.

    The seeding for the UNL 2020-21 will be based on the 2020-21 access list, which follows the rankings from UNL 2018-19, with one minor change - the promoted teams (i.e. BIH, Denmark, Sweden, Ukraine) are ranked above the relegated teams who stayed in the same League after the format change (i.e. Croatia, Poland, Germany, Iceland).

    Whole document here:

    https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Do ... WNLOAD.pdf
     
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  22. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    IIRC, confederations must use FIFA rankings for any WC draw under the WC competition regulations.
     
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  23. Thezzaruz

    Thezzaruz Member+

    Jun 20, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Yea this is true, UEFA gets away with using their own system for the Euros and NL but for the WC it's the (new and improved) FIFA ranking that decides it.
     
  24. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    That article/proposed format makes alot of sense. A late-Sept Fifa windown in 2022 suggests there would only be 1 FIFA break in the Autumn of 2022. So that essentially saves two weeks out of the 6 weeks that the WC cuts into the club football calendar. Meaning, for eg, if the EPL starts in the first week of August - 1 week earlier than normal - it can still comfortably wrap-up in the first week of June - 3 weeks later than normal.

    Minimal disruption (not saying the Qatar WC isn't the dumbest thing ever).

    The only thing I don't like in the single-elimination playoffs in UEFA qualifying. Why? What's the rush? There are 2 extra FIFA breaks to play the qualifying due to the WC happening in winter.
     
  25. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They have to finish ahead of the WC draw, presumably in April 2022.
     

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