EURO 2020: Reigning, Defending, Champions Of Europe General Discussion

Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by GoodDead, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    You know these next 2 games will have vitange Portugal desperation written all over them. Ronaldo will have to get the job done once again.
     
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  2. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    10 years of call-ups? LMFAO. Dude, just stop lying. 8 appearances for National Team. You're full of shit.

    Felix is dubbed the next Ronaldo, and is currently the 3rd most expensive acquisition in football history. Bruma never had that. He plays for PSV. Felix doesn't even deserve a call-up let alone playing time.
     
  3. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    That's because we cater our entire game plan to Ronaldo. If he didn't play today, we probably win.

    Also, please don't ever ever ever play Guerreiro again. Dude is hot cat shit. And that's an insult to cat shit.

    Just play Cancelo at LB. Done.
     
  4. artielange84

    artielange84 Member+

    Aug 7, 2014
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Yes 8 caps over 10 years you fruit

    I'd rather give minutes to Felix than Bruma tbh but overall everyone was pretty shit
     
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  5. Joe Martelo

    Joe Martelo Red Card

    CDC Montalegre
    Portugal
    Sep 30, 2019
    As a poster with no club loyalties,
    It was pretty obvious that Bruno fernandes should have started from
    The beginning.

    Felix was awful. Walking around the field.
    Cmon .

    We will be expected to flop at 2020. Good thing third place teams can advance as we showed in 2016.
     
  6. palynka

    palynka Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    J.Mario, Mourinho and Pepe can never wear the NT shirt again and I'm good with that. Thank you for everything, but it's time to go. Guedes also shouldn't even be close to there yet.

    What the f is Santos doing? Does he want us to lose seeding and go as the underdog again?

    Unbelievable.
     
  7. Nani_17

    Nani_17 Member+

    Nov 3, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Y'all need to calm down, everything will be fine. Santos made some weird and poor decisions today, but I'm sure he'll adjust. The team is still developing but clearly some weaknesses are being exploited. B.Fernandes needs to start, I like the idea of Cancelo moving to LB instead of going with Rui. William was missed more than many of you probably realize, and despite his performances, Felix should continue to start to further develop chemistry, despite what the short bus trio think. If Santos decides he'd rather play experience and proven player over Felix than A.Silva over Guedes please, at least until Guedes returns to form with Valencia, which has been a very long time. Either way, like usual, most people here will continue overreacting and others will spend their energy hating on someone because of his club origins. I'd still place a large bet that we without a doubt qualify(not a big task really) but also compete at a very high level at the actual Euro. The big negative was losing the first place seed, and that could come back to haunt us.
     
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  8. AlexJones19

    AlexJones19 Member

    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    A disappointing result. But we’ve had it too easy for the last few years.. we’ve been due a nervy qualifying campaign where we just about scrape through:ROFLMAO:
     
  9. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    10 years means shit when you only have 8 caps, numb-nuts. What relevance does 10 years have if he's only been called up 8 times?

    Also, in your post, you're comparing both Felix and Bruma. They both sucked ass today. Felix has not had a single good game in the Portugal uniform. Why does he deserve a call-up over Andre Silva?

    Dude has what, 2 games where's played a full 90 minutes with Atletico?
     
  10. palynka

    palynka Member

    Jun 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    What overreacting? Pepe, Moutinho, Bruma and J.Mario have no business being there, and Guedes is woefully out of form. These are cold, hard facts.

    If I wanted to overreact I'd start thinking about how these are people Santos will take to the Euro.
     
  11. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Good news is qualification is still in our hands, just need 2 wins next month against Lithuania and Luxembourg basically. But we lose out Pot 1 entirely, and best case scenario we get into Pot 2... however it's already unlikely, because out of all the 2nd place teams we have one of the worst points total. It's most likely we go into Pot 3.

    But hey, we'll draw every game on the way to the final like last time, so who cares.
     
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  12. azorean

    azorean Member

    Feb 26, 2006
    uma grande cidade
    Heck, at this point , I would be happy with just getting in, this is so much harder than it needed to be obviously, but it is what it is, just make it . Long streak of reaching major tournaments on the line for Portugal, nothing is a given, but what a shame if we missed out, especially considering competition in this group and the talent on this team. Either we are overestimating talent and Portugal is not as good as we think they are, or these teams are better than we think they are......BUT this is like pulling teeth trying to get Portugal over the qualifying line.
     
  13. Açores57

    Açores57 Member+

    Oct 4, 2015
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    He didn’t have a great game today but I still have time for Pepe on the NT. The rest I agree with, especially Moutinho. He’s been useless as a starter since around 2012 now. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw he and Joao Mario paired together, Danilo had nothing to work with.

    Guedes reminds me of Nani, he’ll score a goal late in previous match. Give manager false hope, start next match and be completely ineffective.

    The drop off from Guerreiro since 2016 has been massive. I don’t know if it’s fair to deploy him as a LB since he really doesn’t play there for Dortmund anymore.

    I’m not calling for Santos’ head but the man needs to make adjustments here and quick.
     
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  14. azorean

    azorean Member

    Feb 26, 2006
    uma grande cidade

    Pepe and Moutinho been warriors for Portugal, never forget, and Moutinho still an important piece with Wolves, BUT, yeah, National Team Time needs to coming to an end soon with those 2....perfect description regarding Guedes...Mario and Raphael ? not ones they once were that is for sure, keep waiting for their old versions in National colours....
     
  15. dipluso

    dipluso Member+

    Jul 19, 2005
    CT
    Their 2nd goal bothered me b/c the CBs gave their forward way too much space. Unusually poor defense from what is usually our strength. Maybe this is a parternship that showed a little rustiness...
    Otherwise, we dominated and created plenty of chances. A little unlucky not to score. I think Fernando Santos was too clever in trying a totally different midfield in such a big game. He should have kept most of the shape as in the previous game. Instead, he chose to give the engine of the game to J. Mario who has been away for so long on the NT and it showed (esp. 1st half). It ended up isolating our key 2nd best player by a mile Bernardo Silva to the wing and out of impact in the game. Also, Guedes is completely out of form and barely plays in Valencia. Mystified why he would start him here - maybe as a 2nd half sub to bring some energy and speed in the game but not as a starter... The same thing happened in the WC.
     
  16. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    10 years? Lol

    He drew the pk what did Felix do except play goalie for Ukraine?
     
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  17. Joe Martelo

    Joe Martelo Red Card

    CDC Montalegre
    Portugal
    Sep 30, 2019
    Anybody who continues to think FeLOL should start needs to give their head a shake.

    We are on the verge of being in pot 3 even if we qualify.

    What a joke no wonder we are champions but not taken seriously. England beat Bulgaria 6-0 in Sofia who are the same shit as Ukraine.
     
  18. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    Bulgaria is at the bottom of Group A with zero wins, is tied for 66th in the world with Haiti and hasn't qualified for a tournament since 2004. Ukraine is 18th in the world between Peru and Sweden, won its Nations League B group over the Czech Republic, has absolutely cruised through qualifying, and was at Euro 2016.

    Bulgaria and Ukraine aren't even remotely the same.
     
  19. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    #519 portugamerifinn, Oct 14, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2019
    Portugal hasn't been playing particularly well and got what it deserved today, to be honest. I don't know why Santos decided to make Moutinho and Mario starters again when they're late subs at best these days, much less starters together. Additionally, every time William is unavailable it is painfully obvious how important he is to Portugal.

    It's just frustrating to watch this group play so poorly together. Sure, the opening 30 minutes was a bit unlucky. But a result like this has been coming. You can just look to the previous couple matches after the big, important win over Serbia. It took an hour to take the lead for good against Lithuania and almost 70 minutes to put Luxembourg away. And it isn't like Portugal was missing tap-ins in those matches.

    Nobody seems to be playing well off of or linking well with one another. Everybody is too close to each other in possession and just slowly moving the ball back and forth. Then they do try a through ball or something like it, just to hit the pass too hard out of bounds or too soft and to a defender.

    This group has so much quality, but this TEAM is showing so little quality right now. I am fully anticipating a couple nervy performances next month as Portugal merely has to defeat Luxembourg and Lithuania. I'd place a bet right now that Portugal goes into the final 30 minutes of at least one of those matches without the lead.

    And those final 20 minutes today while up a man were dreadful. It took 15 minutes just to get a shot on goal and that was a harmless, long-range effort right at the keeper. Santos needs to do WAY better. I've always been on his side, but Portugal has been so passive and doesn't have the defense right now to get away with that type of play. He isn't playing to Portugal's strengths at all.
     
  20. Nani_17

    Nani_17 Member+

    Nov 3, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You are honestly a next level kinda stupid. From your tactics to player choices to your overall review of a game, you basically are incapable of seeing or viewing anything rationally. From wanting Martins to be our RB to saying Croatia and Italy are favourites over us when you have access to Google and could find out how wrong you are in about 5 seconds. Now Bulgaria is the same as Ukraine. FFS man, no one could be this stupid, please tell me you're trolling? Because the words you type seem like that of a character because otherwise I doubt you could even function in day to day life without wearing a helmet.
     
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  21. Joe Martelo

    Joe Martelo Red Card

    CDC Montalegre
    Portugal
    Sep 30, 2019
    We could have used Martins out there today. Maybe not at right back but he would have been a weapon on the field.

    The main problem
    Is the coach, Santos. I heard Scolari is available. The FPF should fire Santos and bring back Scolari for Euro 2020.
     
  22. jec1

    jec1 Member

    Sporting Clube de Portugal
    Portugal
    Aug 27, 2004
    Los Angeles ATM
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Hell nooooo to Scolari..

    he's a stubborn as Santos (who I keep saying is just a defensive minded coach). And we still suck.

    I'm not too worried but Felix, wow, the hate is ridiculous... Give him time. I'm sure the kid knows he's playing like crap. Probably mental thing.
     
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  23. jec1

    jec1 Member

    Sporting Clube de Portugal
    Portugal
    Aug 27, 2004
    Los Angeles ATM
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    Indeed. He is stubborn and it's unacceptable at this point. This team in 2020 should be the field top crop we were expecting. I see similarities with him/scolari, but he gets a pass bc he got us a title.

    I say he needs to take risks more but smart risks, not dumb ones.
     
  24. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    It is truly amazing that the Portuguese, of all people, would judge 19-year-old Joao Felix against Cristiano. Joao is an excellent young player, but he's still a teenager. We know how incredible Cristiano is, so why would we place such outlandish expectations on anyone?

    Cristiano was great during World Cup Qualifying at 19/20 and he accounted for 19 goals that season for Man U. Joao, whose talent is so painfully obvious if you actually watch him play regularly, at the same age is on pace to account for 20 goals for his club this season too (assuming he plays as many matches as Cristiano did at the same age).

    He's only responsible for one Portugal goal in three starts. That's fine. Stop being such unrealistic fools.
     
  25. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    This has been discussed multiple times in this forum. It's because he played for Benfica.


    You're trying so hard to make this scrub relevant. Felix has only played a full game twice this season out of 10 games. That's horrendous ROI for Atletico. He's been ineffective in a majority of his games

    You literally just said you can't compare Ronaldo and Felix, and now your trying to compare them.

    Ronaldo made an almost instant impact at Man U and the National Team, scoring key goals in Euro 2004 against Greece and Netherlands in the semi finals.

    Felix can't even hold his jockstrap.
     

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