OK, but how many times in the history of mankind has an all white jury convicted a Black man of something, regardless of any evidence?
And since it has not yet been mentioned https://www.npr.org/2019/10/03/7668...-800-million-to-victims-of-las-vegas-shooting MGM Resorts International has agreed to pay up to $800 million to settle thousands of liability claims stemming from the 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas, lawyers announced Thursday, almost exactly two years after the massacre.
And the manufacturer of the equipment the shooter used to carry out his horrible deed pays...wait for it...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
I know that liability claims are often about who has the money, rather than who was at fault, but I am nevertheless struggling with the idea that MGM should pay damages because some wack job decided to kill people on its property, rather than on another property.
The belief was that they rented him the room, and he carried the weapons up there, and no one said or did anything about it. Not sure if they could've done anything about it, but that's how it went. Also, not being glib about the amount of money, but I'm pretty sure that MGM can afford that, combined with what they may be able to get from any insurance claims on their end.
No doubt that MGM can afford that. But at the risk of sounding like a conservative, I don't think the courts should be in the business of doing wealth distribution. If that is to happen, it should come from legislation.
So there was complete muppetry here in NZ where a sob story broke about a 13 year old competition shooter who could no longer shoot with her Dad's AR15 so she had to move into pistol shooting This somehow got national radio+TV coverage Then turns out her dad is own of Gun City - NZs largest gun retailer Somehow the media didn't include that info
If an employee saw the shooter going up to his room with that sort of firepower, it would've been perfectly fine for him to alert the police. The police could've then come to the room, knocked on the door, and asked the shooter about why he was bringing such a large number of weapons to a hotel, assuming that in and of itself wasn't illegal. Such questioning would've been justified under Terry v. Ohio, as certainly a first tier encounter where police questioning is fine. Arguably that kind of weaponry would even justify a brief detention and questioning as a second tier encounter under Terry.
Just as likely he shoots the staff and/or cops who got in his way. Dont know what that would've meant for the crowd. For the general public, wouldn't have changed a thing. NRA, and their Russian overlords, have the government under control.
Sure, but I was specifically responding to what theory of liability plaintiffs shot at the concert would be positing. IOW, what could've happened that would've absolved (or at least mitigated) the hotel's potential liability in a personal injury action. Moreover, I don't think it's a stretch to think that if he had started shooting right at the point police started questioning him that lives at the concert (at least some) might've been saved as he would've been immediately engaged with police.
He was actually shooting through a flexible window or windows wasn't he? Or am I misremembering? It might be argued that it is hazardous to so equip such an edifice? I don't know as I'd necessarily buy that as a juror, but...
Not a mass shooting, unless we're talking Centre of Mass. S U R P R I S E..! NEWSER) – A Norwegian man was killed Tuesday night after trying to give his father-in-law—an armed Florida homeowner—a birthday surprise. Police say 37-year-old Christopher Bergan flew in from Norway to surprise Richard Dennis on his 61st birthday. He knocked on Dennis' back door in the Pensacola suburb of Gulf Breeze at around 11:30pm then jumped out from bushes to surprise him, the Pensacola News Journal reports. Dennis, however, had earlier argued with a relative who banged on the front door and answered his back door armed with a .380 semi-automatic firearm. Police say he fired at Bergan when he jumped out, instantly killing his son-in-law with a shot to the heart.
according to this astro turfed piece I recall at school there was a rifle club, though in those days shooting was with old style 22s and 303s
Of course the actual conduct of the trial is key in these cases. AG essentially convicted herself when she gave evidence She admitted when finding the door ajar, that she through all standard police training out the window and went full rambo into the apartment. The Jury did not believe she shouted any instructions or gave warning. She admitted shooting to kill. IMO she would have had a much better chance had she not given evidence as the state seemed to proceed on the basis of allowing for her "mistake" but arguing it made no difference even if believed.
My first rifle for club shooting. The old SMLE ( smelly) frame fitted out for 22 long rifle. Steady as a rock.
I don't think it happens in, say, suburban California, compared with suburban Florida. At least it's not as likely here. We have fewer folks walking around with guns to protect themselves from threats, real or imaginary.
Only true for the USA my friend. In more civilized countries, that episode wouldn't have ended like that. You really shouldn't normalize the situation in the US or can't you really not see the thing?