2030 World Cup

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  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
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    Switzerland
  2. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Orlando City SC
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    United States
    The de facto UEFA primaries will be fascinating - IMO the UK bid has a better chance at the FIFA elections than an Iberian one, but I don't see any such advantage at the continent level. Who knows, some UEFA members may even relish the chance to give the UK a kick up the backside over Brexit...
     
  3. jesta

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  4. HomietheClown

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  5. bigsoccertst1

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    Sep 22, 2017
    It would be great for world football if 2030 WC goes to Asia.

    Conmebol gave away its opportunity to host its South American Centenary in exchange for money.

    Now Conmebol wants 2030 WC because of another Centenary.
    Throw some money at Conmebol and they will accept a WC in Oceania.
     
  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
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    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
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  7. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Well, splitting all of 10 votes isn't that big an issue :D

    Nevertheless, this would almost certainly lead to a de facto primary in Conmebol to decide on only one South American bid, so that Conmebol could then wheel and deal in favor of said bid instead of having to split its loyalties - or neglect one entirely and risk enduring bad blood.

    In all honesty, an Andean bid up against a Southern Cone one is a non-starter. Conmebol is based in Paraguay with a Paraguayan president - CHUPAR is going to be Conmebol's 2030 bid sí o sí.
     
  8. HomietheClown

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    That is weird. I have not heard any rumor about that in Colombian media or the forum.
     
  9. bigsoccertst1

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    Sep 22, 2017
    Gotta be the dumbest WC bid ever.

    Yeah, please gimme a WC in Quito and Bogota. And let us visit Peru, after it failed to organize a Youth WC.

    Waste of money on publicists+lobbyists salaries. Put that money back into youth NT development.
     
  10. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
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    Miami, FL
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    United States
    And what's wrong with Quito and Bogotá?

    They didn't fail to organize it; they lost the hosting rights over either infrastructural concerns or failing to get FIFA the necessary tax breaks (conflicting reports on what was the primary reason). Not ideal, but nothing too daunting to overcome by 2030. And in the meanwhile, Lima just hosted arguably the best Pan-American Games ever.
     
  11. bigsoccertst1

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    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Ohhhh give me lots, lots of tanks, oxygen tanks with some masks...
    Beautiful group stage with good teams struggling at high altitude venues.

    Could not organize 1 simple u17 World Cup.
    Multiple infrastructure delays each time FIFA/Conmebol came back to check on Peru.

    I wanna see when FIFA awards a senior WC to Peru after taking away its youth WC.
    FIFA is done with Peru.
     
  12. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teams adjusted just fine in South Africa...

    ...except they did.

    For this time around: granted.

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    https://www.fifa.com/u20worldcup/news/three-bids-submitted-for-fifa-u-20-world-cup-2021tm
     
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  13. bigsoccertst1

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    Sep 22, 2017
  14. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Agree that these countries probably have better ways to spend their money, even within the football world. But COL, ECU, PER would be pretty amazing for fans!

    The altitude argument is a non-starter. I mean its not La Paz. Plus its just 3 cities out of probably 12 or so where altitude would be any issue at all.
     
  15. bigsoccertst1

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    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Is that increased risk more or less than playing in Denver in the snow? :)

    Anyway that article is pretty old and it was decided not take action so the risk couldn't be that great. And I think in general it is less harsh on the body having a month-long tournament at altitude than for someone that lives at sea level going to a high-altitude destination for a few days (something that's constantly happening in Copa Libertadores/Sudamericana and CONMEBOL qualifying tournaments and elsewhere around the world).
     
  17. bigsoccertst1

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    Sep 22, 2017
    @BocaFan touché. Did not know NAFTA 2026 placed Denver as venue candidate.

    Bolivia should have fun playing there.
     
  18. jesta

    jesta Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    As it seems they are doing it only to undermine Argentina/Uruguay bid and put Colombia in front running spot for the next WC in South America, whenever that happens.
    South American bid isn't going to win in 2030 anyway since FIFA will go where the biggest money is, and that is either Europe or even more China if allowed to bid!
     
  19. Joe Martelo

    Joe Martelo Red Card

    CDC Montalegre
    Portugal
    Sep 30, 2019
    Portugal should host 2030
    World Cup on their own.

    We did a good job hosting euro 2004 and the most recent uefa nations league 2019 (the best ever nations league in history according to UEFA).

    Cities for stadiums :

    Lisbon (2 stadia) , Porto (2 stadia), braga, guimaraes, Coimbra, Faro, Funchal, Ponta Delgada
     
  20. almango

    almango Member+

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    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
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    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    :D
     
  21. glennaldo_sf

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    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
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    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
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    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the expanded World Cup now, I wonder if FIFA are going to start pushing not only multiple hosts, but entire continents hosting the tournament, kind of like Euro 2020... like you could have a Conmebol 2030 tournament with each country getting a few matches and the final in Montvideo... hey even try hosting a game in Antarctica... anyhoo, just a thought....
     
  22. Paul Calixte

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    United States
    The big difference is that Europe is much smaller and more interconnected than Africa, Asia or the Americas.
     
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  23. glennaldo_sf

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    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It can be, but not the way UEFA arranged this tournament... I'd hate to have to get from Dublin to Baku... but yeah I agree with you taking the train from Lima to Caracas is not a thing and flights are horrendously expensive....they'd really have to put certain groups / knockout paths in specific countries...
     
  24. almango

    almango Member+

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    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
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    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I suppose you could have eight nations host and each have two groups and two round of 32 matches. That means the team that makes the last 16 from that bracket wont have to travel before then. Distances would still make a tournament like this difficult anywhere but Europe. Asia and Africa could do it if they limited it to regions. Asia already has four sub federations within it, not sure if Africa has a formal division but informally there is north south east and west. I think a North African set up would be most feasible for Africa right now. Asia is out of the picture right now but each region is capable of hosting 2034 or later.
     
  25. Paul Calixte

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    United States
    #250 Paul Calixte, Oct 23, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2019
    You were saying?



    (for non Spanish speakers: Conmebol Pres. Alejandro Domínguez just spilled that FIFA awarded the 2021 u-17 World Cup to Peru)

     
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