The Art of VAR - Other Teams Thread[R]

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  1. Varnagel

    Varnagel Member+

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    #10951 Varnagel, Sep 11, 2019
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    Skills are overrated.

    Vinicius is skilled with a lot of tricks in his bag, does it make him a top 5 to you?

    Or Cristiano not being a top 5 despite being primarily a poacher nowadays?

    Again, what's the difference between him and Benzema?

    The Frenchman also carried a shit team while having a gigantic impact for RM.

    Just like Hazard has done for Chelsea last season.

    I don't think neither of these two should be viewed as a top 5 player btw.

    Productivity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skills

    Otherwise, I guess Vinicius is a top 5 player in your eyes too.
     
  2. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    Skills are overrated. Smh

    Vini is a terrible finisher. He cannot even shoot straight.
     
  3. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Tell me. How can you have productivity without skill? o_O
     
  4. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Which stems from his substantial issues with technique. Standing / shooting leg, foot position, body position / tilt... deeply flawed. No wonder his accuracy is atrocious.
     
  5. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Crazy Lim about to sack Marcelino. Celades will replace him for now. 6-0 thrashing by Barca coming this weekend.
     
  6. Whiteboard

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    Dec 3, 2015
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    For a winger 16 goals and 15 assists in a pl season is pretty ********ing productive i'd say.
    Also
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48465030
    He created the most chances since 2012 in the PL

    "The 28-year-old attempted (1,441) and completed (909) ,more dribbles than anyone else in that time. He was also fouled more than anyone else (638)
     
  7. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

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    Aug 9, 2018
    Why are people seriously arguing with @Varnagel :D
     
  8. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Hazard is a fat scrub who should practice Sumo instead of football.

    There. Let's move on
     
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  9. Crimson

    Crimson BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 11, 2009
    Comparing Hazard to Messi and people trash my opinions lmfao
     
  10. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    Pretending I was comparing the quality of the player and not the circumstance of injury that you were criticizing is a classic deflection.
     
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  11. Açores57

    Açores57 Member+

    Oct 4, 2015
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    Tbh paying the same price for Joao Felix who is a decade younger than Hazard isn’t the most far fetched take I’ve heard on here.
     
  12. Hsain85

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    Mar 28, 2006
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Brazil
    Hindsight is always 6/6
    However the comparison with Hazard is 100% absurd. What has the guy proven so far? A few good games don’t qualify him as a 120ME.
    Even discussing this is palm-face worthy.
     
  13. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    I think Joao Felix was a good buy.. the guy will have a great future.
    The best three youngsters right now are Felix, Sancho and Mbappe.
     
  14. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

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    Jan 11, 2018
    Valencia sack the coach.

    Gives them an excuse for their annual bend over v Barca at the weekend.
     
  15. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    You're missing the point.

    It's not wether Felix is a good buy or not. It's the ridiculousness of comparing Felix's transfer to Hazard.

    If anything Felix should be compared to Jovic because that is who we directly went for instead.
     
  16. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    the international break brings up the most hottest of takes and most ridiculous of arguments.
     
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  17. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    One thing does not take away from the other is my point.
     
  18. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Both RM and ZZ wanted a veteran star like Hazard after the terrible season we have had. Let's see who will make the difference in big games especially in CL.

    Since we offered 80 ME for Felix with the option to loan him back, could have took the risk at 125 ME+ and easily financed it by not spending 110 ME of Jovic, Mendy(keep Reguilon). Could have signed Felix and Mendy too as Felix wages isn't that high. Hazard was necessary as a Galactico signing and 50k people showing up at the Bernabeu shows his stature in the game and excitement among fans for such a big name. Felix is more versatile in 4-3-3 than Jovic as well.
     
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  19. Hsain85

    Hsain85 Member+

    Mar 28, 2006
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    Brazil
    Whoever thinks that Felix wasn’t a very high risk signing is delusional or isn’t aware he is in the trap of the hindsight bias.
    I still think the guy hasn’t proven he was worth the gamble yet even though I am impressed that he is doing as well so early on. It is still ********ING September though!!!
     
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  20. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Those who have seen all three Atletico games seem to think Felix has had a rather quiet start after exciting pre-season. Apparently best moments came after Getafe went down to 10. He's 19 and likely will have a great career, but it's too early to compare him vs our summer signings. For all we know Jovic could end up being the best signing once he starts scoring. Already showed some good skills in last game that he's not just limited to being fox in the box.
     
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  21. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    You can think what you want .. it does not mean others will agree with you.
    Your criteria for reaching this conclusion is simply different than for others..
     
  22. Hsain85

    Hsain85 Member+

    Mar 28, 2006
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Brazil
    Anybody can draw any ridiculous conclusion and say that.
     
  23. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Well, top 5 would imply he easily makes it on an all World XI Team. Not sure that's the case with Hazard.
     
  24. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
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    Colombia
    Idk

    There was a time where Messi, Neymar, Suarez, and Cristiano were the 4 best players in the world but the world XI could only fit 3...
     
  25. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    Real Madrid
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    United States

    But they do. You are comparing the signing of two players at a similar cost. 1 player has 10 years experience and an impressive resume (you want to ignore that to proffer it was a bad transfer).



    Bale after first season: Scoring goals in the CL and CdR finals is great but not enough to justify his 90ME transfer price.

    Felix after three games: This kid has been worth every penny of his 120ME transfer price, even if he wins nothing it was a risk worth taking 10/10.
     
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