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Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    So if Americans are involved, it can't be good, but if they're not involved, the country doesn't care. Nice no-lose you set up for yourself.
     
  2. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Again, welcome to 2019. It’s hard to find someone under 40, particularly on the coasts, who didn’t grow up with soccer.
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    #3403 BocaFan, Jul 3, 2019
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 3, 2019
    MOD NOTE: Let's cool it, gents...
     
  4. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    #3404 Timon19, Jul 3, 2019
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 3, 2019
    MOD NOTE: ...with both the borderline trolling and the name calling...
     
  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    #3405 BocaFan, Jul 3, 2019
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    MOD NOTE: ...warnings handed out for both of you on this occasion, and repeat occurrences will lead to harsher punishments, including a temporary thread ban. You have been advised - Paul Calixte
     
  6. jesta

    jesta Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    well, this is qatar thread in the end, so time to go back to bashing FIFA for what they've done to all of us and to common sense as well!

    btw, any update on stadium cooling? I will believe in that first when I see it :D
     
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  7. rooboy91

    rooboy91 Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Perth, Australia
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Don't need it in the winter
     
  8. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Concacaf promoting segregation:

    https://www.concacaf.com/en/world-c...-2022-fifa-world-cup-confederation-qualifiers

    That's a horrible format. The teams not in (Concacaf's) top 6, according to their FIFA ranking, hardly get any scraps. The bulk of Concacaf's "members" have to fight over one lousy intercontinental playoff spot. To get that scrap (not even plural) you'd have to win your group, advance through quarters, semis and a final and then play the 4th placed team from the Hex.
     
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  9. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Best part yet, is that if the interconfed playoff rotation, between Concacaf, AFC, OFC and Conmebol, happening since 2010 continues, whomever wins their playoff spot, most likely will get to play against Conmebol's 5th, for that WC spot.
    :p
     
  10. amvrosio

    amvrosio New Member

    Aug 24, 2007
    México D. F.
    No existe una "rotación" en las repescas intercontintales.... para 2006 fueron diseñadas directamente por FIFA (Conmebol vs. Concacaf - AFC vs OFC), y para 2010, 2014 y 2018 fueron por sorteo
     
  11. andregunts

    andregunts Member

    Real Madrid
    Jamaica
    Jun 13, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    WOW Concaaf way to ensure that USA and Mexico definitely goes through. What bullsh1t
     
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  12. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Wouldn't be strange they also decide to play the whole top 6 hex in the USA, as well.......:ROFLMAO:
     
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  13. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The inter-continental play-offs have been, and I expect will continue to be, decided by a draw.
     
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  14. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    It is bllsht, but it doesn not insure the USA goes through, the HEX stage is where they screwed it up last time.
     
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  15. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Whilst that is true, Rickdog's point I believe was that since 2006 the draw has conveniently followed a "rotation" pattern.

    2006 Conmebol v OFC, AFC v Concacaf (not a draw but an allocation and the first time we had 4 confeds involved in the playoffs.
    2010 Conmebol v Concacaf, AFC v OFC (draw)
    2014 Conmebol v AFC, OFC v Concacaf (draw)
    2018 Conmebol v OFC, AFC v Concacaf. (draw)
     
  16. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Don't USA and Mexico always make it to the final Hex anyways ?
     
  17. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    Dear most of Concacaf.

    This is what being in the OFC was like for us (and still is for those left behind)

    J
     
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  18. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Actually, for 2010, there wasn't a draw, as the ties were decided over time zones. Afterwards, a draw did take place, only to decide whom gets to play home for the first match, and whom to play home for the second match (in which case, if no team had won by then, a pk definition would've been needed)
     
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  19. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Nope.

    For the 1990 WC, Mexico didn't make it there (got banned by FIFA, for using over aged players in some youth tournament).

    For the 1982 WC, USA got wiped out by Canada on a previous stage (whom at the final hex, which was played completely in Honduras in one single round robin, also didn't make it through).
     
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  20. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Being banned doesn't count. And both are a very long time ago. I meant more recently.
     
  21. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Since 1998, Mexico, USA and Costa Rica, have never failed to make it to the final hex.
     
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  22. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    You are correct and thanks for refreshing my memory. The AFC/OFC playoff was set as part of the backroom negotiations when we moved to AFC ( I assume it was as it was pretty much announced at the same time) and justified because of the difficulties that were encountered getting teams from one side of the world to the other in 4 days (3 and a half if the move was the wrong way). It was the next two draws that neatly worked out to a rotation. I would be comfortable if they just used FIFA rankings of the teams in the playoffs to decide the draw once those teams are known.
     
  23. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    CAF "reverting" to 2014 quals (according to wikipedia)

    • First round: 28 teams (ranked 27–54) will play home-and-away over two legs. The 14 winners will advance to the second round.
    • Second round: 40 teams (teams ranked 1–26 and 14 first round winners) will be divided into 10 groups of four teams to play home-and-away round-robin matches. The 10 group winners will advance to the third round.
    • Third round: The 10 teams which will have advanced from the second round will play home-and-away over two legs. The five winners will qualify for the World Cup.
    J
     
  24. Persepolis#8

    Persepolis#8 Member

    Manchester United/Persepolis
    Dec 19, 2018
    So much room for flukes and stronger team eliminations
     
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  25. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    Well, compared to giving 6 teams a bye through to the last stage I suspect pretty much everything is.

    J
     
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