Skillfull, Hopefully Interesting Talents: The Summer 19 Transfer Forum

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  1. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    I agree with all that. It seems to happen to players when they go to Barca. Playing in their system brings out the best Or the worst in a player. Suarez worked really good but more players from the prem seem to have trouble fitting in and end up on the bench. Macca and Mikey for instance.
    Iiiiiif he ended up back, I wonder how he would play under Klopp?
     
  2. bayred

    bayred Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    May 28, 2018
    Silly season getting into full swing, sounds like...
     
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  3. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    yep. amazing what boredom does to a person .... :)
     
  4. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    You mean La Liga, not just Barca -
    Macca and Mikey went to Madrid!

    also McManaman was brilliant for the first couple of years for Madrid, then they just didn't play him as much after Figo (his equal) and Beckham (not his equal on the field, but certainly quadruple him in shirt sales) came in....
     
  5. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Solanke came from the Chelsea youth system, I'm pretty sure.....
     
  6. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We got 20m for Solanke - wow - still amazed by that.
     
  7. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC

    That might be the most unbreakable surmising argument ever posted on here!!
    Congrats!
     
  8. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Thank Sky Sports.....
    loathe though I am to thank Rupert Murdoch for anything.... poisonous cur....
     
  9. Suss

    Suss Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 11, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    We still brought him in as a youngster and helped him advance his career. These are the types of success stories that can be sold to other youngsters. Solanke will have no regrets about joining Liverpool.
     
  10. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's true as far as joining Liverpool is concerned, but Zaq is correct about Chelsea, as you are well aware. Solanke was an established youth player when he joined Liverpool, having scored a total of 27 goals for England U20s and younger.
     
  11. Suss

    Suss Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 11, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    But he left Chelsea for Liverpool because Chelsea has a bad reputation for how they treat young players. They have over 40 players out on loan and don’t give any of them a chance at the first team or a move to another club where they can get their chance.

    City have a bad reputation as well. Jadon Sancho had to leave City to get his chance.

    Liverpool had to fight off several German clubs that wanted Rihan Brewster. Klopp made promises to Brewster that he will get his chance. It’s important that Klopp follows through and gives him a chance this season. It will show the other players in the academy and youngsters around Europe that Liverpool is a club where they can make it.
     
  12. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My point was this: Solanke was already an established young player when he joined Liverpool.

    His contract with Chelsea ran its course and Liverpool was his next destination. I'm sure his stint at Liverpool advanced his career to a degree, certainly more than staying at The Bridge, the home of dashed hopes for young starlets.
     
  13. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Barca Madrid same old same old.
     
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  14. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Bottom line is though, that unless Tihan Brewster is a lot better than Solanke he will not get to many chances. Origi (as I pointed out when he was loaned out and Solanke was brought in for a replacement look) is/was much better than Solanke (IMO).
    Word is that Brewster is very good. In which case I hope to see him take up Sturridge's role next season.
    (Studg is gone, right?)
     
  15. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seeing as how Origi is about 3 years older than Solanke, he should be. At this point I think Origi is better than Sturridge, though not a first option in crucial matches. Whether Solanke's upside is a high as Origi's remains to be seen.
     
  16. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
  17. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I can live with that.
     
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  19. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    damnit, things are slow on the transfer front.

    I wonder if experienced players are looking at the cohesion and effectiveness the team has shown, and the fact that we have so few "holes to fill" ... and concluded they'd likely get very few starting minutes with us?
     
  20. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    good observation. that's exactly my motive for playing my cards close to my vest.
     
  21. idreamofpikas

    idreamofpikas Member+

    May 22, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I'm not sure they are slow. All we need is a back up left back, possibly a right back if Clyne leaves, though Gomez may be expected to fill in that position next season.

    I'd imagine that Klopp wants to give Wilson some preseason games to access him and he may still be undecided on Lallana. Sturridge only played 500 league minutes last season and ideally we'd expect Origi (368 league minutes) and Brewster to cover those rather than bring in another squad forward.

    Klopp seems to have done a 180 on Shaqiri, he seemed out of favour for a large part of the second half of the season but seems to have redeemed himself in the last few games of the season. If he's happy I'd rather we retain him than replace him.

    Last season we had Ox out for pretty much all of it, Lallana for the vast majority of it. Those two players are going to play a lot more this season. I can't imagine that Origi has not been promised more game time with his new contract. Both Fabinho and Keita were slowly integrated into the team, I fully expect Fab to start far more than 21 league games next season.

    We just don't actually need that much.
     
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  22. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mbappe!!! :)
     
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  23. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    that's my point ... Mbappe is just about the only player I can think of who would automatically start ahead of the current options we have.
     
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  24. Upper Ninety

    Upper Ninety Member

    May 31, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    Yet there is nothing our team can do to convince him to join us to make that happen. I really hope our youth ascends.....because I cant think of anyone other thatn Mbappe to put us to the next level, yet despite winning the CL i feel like this team needs another big thing to be that relevant. They don't need to spend ridiculous money on mid tier talent like Man City or Real Madrid is sniffing (I know there are some higher end players linked). I am just saying this team has grown with Klopp as a special group as Klopp has done in the past. Lets not make a team to sell to our top competition, but lets make a team where the competition wishes they could afford them.
     
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  25. bayern is god

    bayern is god Member+

    May 26, 2007
    india
    I'm all for Team Cohesion and "Dont fix what ain't broken" but with our first choice front three all being on extended national duty, I think its crucial we dont drop any points in the first 45 days of the PL Season due to Bobby or Salah's unavailability.

    A Versatile Wing Forward to give the Opposition something ELSE to think about could be the difference between 2nd and 1st and could keep things Fresh attacking wise.

    But Hey,Klopp knows better.

    YNWA.
     
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