where does it say that, hobo? and where does it say VAR does apply to goalie moving too soon? (I'm not being argumentative here) (y'know, just for a change, like )
Watching the wwc France Nigeria. It turned into another VAR farce that sucked the life out of an interesting game. A missed PK that was retaken when the keeper was spotted slightly off her line. One foot about 12 inches the other about 2 inches. The var was correct but I have never seen that reviewed in mans match yet I know it happens almost all the time. EIGHT minutes added on time. I just know what is next...It's the the dreaded countdown basketball clock!!!
Here's the basic breakdown in the principles of the VAR law, the ifab version: https://www.theifab.com/projects/vars/principles-practicalities-protocol It doesn't say it "applies to the keeper moving too soon", it applies to cards, penalty incidents, all goals, and other serious missed calls which impact the scoreline of matches essentially. Encroaching on pens largely not applying to the category of "plays which impact the scoreline of matches". I don't know how it should be applied to keeper positioning though... I looked at that and it seemed like a pretty good save, for me. But if this is the start of them cracking down on keeper positioning, that's fine, but it should happen across the board. Maybe they'll have to rework the language of keeper positioning during penalties? I don't know.
So, everyone who disagrees with you is a whiner and a Luddite. Great argument. Probably, most of the time it's right. But as of now the way it's being handled sucks. It's here. We're stuck with it and the changes and amendments every second month until people forget what an exciting game this used to be.
Apparently they said that keeper positioning was discussed at length with the teams as something VAR would look at for this World Cup
Doesn't really seem like it needs addressing... seems obvious enough when someone gets a really unfair jump off the line that the ref could handle it.
I think this whole VAR nonsense has reminded us how much of a shade of gray the beautiful game is. It's too subjective and there's too many unwritten rules for the video age. All of these might be the "correct" calls by the letter of the law but...
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48671182 "Football law changes came into effect on 1 June, with one of them saying this: The goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot on/in line with the goal line when the kick is taken; cannot stand behind the line. So given that Nnadozie clearly had both feet in front of the line, the decision was correct." But .... the law also says that players can't enter the box before the kick. that happened on BOTH the pens taken. why wasn't the second one called back by VAR? VAR nonsense ... coming soon to a Prem game near to you ....
It doesn't have an effect on the score, is why. At least one foot on the line is a pretty good law for monitoring keeper positions. Seems ok to me? The question is, if a French player encroached on the box and the pen was saved and that encroacher is the one that puts in the rebound, does THAT get VAR reviewed too?
Who said that? I'm talking about the whining players standing on the pen spot throwing a fit, there were 7-8 of them piled up there in defiance of the referee.
eh? how can having a horde of players rushing at you while you're trying to stop / hang on to a penalty NOT have an affect on a goalie? a goalie having a foot close to - but not actually on the line - would have no effect on the outcome either.
They're rushing at her either way... pretty specious to claim that being a step over a line versus behind the line is the difference in saving or not saving a pen. I mean, maybe it's correct, and you could assume as much if you wanted to, but it's pretty hard to prove. I think that is similarly really hard to claim, but either way it's beside the point... because having a foot "ahead" of the 2nd to last defender putting you offside doesn't necessarily give you an "advantage" either. You could be coming the other way for instance, back from offside position? But rules aren't necessarily about defining what does or does not clearly give someone an advantage, it's more about giving refs some pretty specific language in order to allow them to keep control of the match. Now if you've got a better version of the rule -- of any rule -- I'm all for it being discussed, and maybe even adopted by the laws of the game/FIFA/the FA. What should the goalkeeper rules be in terms of positioning on penalties? If you've got better than "one foot on the line" I'm all for hearing it.
Bobby loses a beautiful assist to VAR against Venezuela. Correct call. Edit - I take it back. It looked like the defender tried to play the ball and it came off to Bobby. Maybe it should have been a goal.
good article about VAR. https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ia-penalty-wendie-renard-replay-a8964321.html
And another Brazil goal disallowed. I’m confused about this one as well - they say the coutinho shot went in off Bobby who was offside? But the view I saw looked like Bobby touched the ball with his hand before the shot and that was the reason it was called off - but the replay barely shows anything. Very confusing.
ah, so it's another CSI-based goal decision, then. who needs human refs anyway? just add a bit of AI to the VAR equipment and we can have a game with 823 "WTF?" stoppages each half. so much fun !! the more of this I see, the more I think VAR will slowly kill the game. what's the point in watching live, when the live action is kinda meaningless in and of itself ....just wait for the post-match replays of what VAR did / didn't allow.
you're right. I know I'm hashing old ground but goddamnit .... we are all used to seeing players raise their arms to "claim" a throw-in or corner when it's bleedin' obvious it isn't theirs to claim, happens 20 times a game. tedious but no biggie. we'll now see players going nuts insisting on VAR replays for every important decision -- goal / offside / pen area tumble / card / penalty save ... you name it. even if the ref waves them off, as spectators we'll have to get used to not taking any ref decision as final ... even when they've all left the damn pitch ffs ....
I don’t think this is true. There was one defender clearly closer to goal, and another guy was rushing back but it looks like the ball went off Bobby before that defender put him onside. To be fair it’s incredibly close. That video doesn’t show the optimal angle which might make it more clear.
OK. Read first then post I always say. On the other hand if there is encroachment according to var and the PK is good. Then we have a FK for encroachment??? Or is the PK retaken. This could go on forever. I wrote this yesterday but forgot to push the go button.
The analysis has been done... average stoppage is 55 seconds across over 1000 matches. Less stoppage than for throw ins and substitutions.
So the 8 minutes in the women's game and the 7 on the mens quallies. Should have been a max of "maybe" 1 minute each. Then again if the match doesn't call for var I'll bet the....never mind!!!!