The Trump Presidency Ocho :: It Can't Go On. A.K.A. We All Gotta Duck / When The Shit Hits the Fan

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Reported! :D

    Fair use. I also dont pay for youtube
     
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  2. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    You can go back several decades and add the Iran of the Shah's reign. That also fits the "CIA gets involved there . . . . In the end the exact opposite happens" rubric.
     
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  3. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
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    Or the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. You would think that this misadventure would have defined the ideology of an entire generation because that one actually ran up a massive American body count.

    But in typical entitled baby boomer fashion, we keep going back to that well thinking that THIS TIME it'll work ...
     
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  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    You can read like 5 articles per month or so (it varies by publications), I get paywalled all the time after I reach the limit.

    Plus you mostly spew talking points with no back up.
     
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  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    You’re wrong about China, btw.. You’re right that they aren’t using military power to expand their sphere of influence outside of the China Sea, however, they are using economic power to expand their sphere of influence. They’ve dumped billions of dollars into Africa and Central America building infrastructure, soccer stadiums, business districts, etc. It’s been fairly effective in gettijg governments to support them, but it isn’t very effective among the people as they tend to use Chinese during construction and as workers rather than locals..
     
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  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    Ukraine has always been under the influence of the user/Russia.

    USA influence there has always been limited.

    We didn't intervene in Ruwanda, no economic benefit for us, how did that work out.

    We could have stayed out of the Yugoslavia break up conflict, but Bill C wanted to distract from a blow job.

    We may stay away when China finnally invades Taiwan, I am sure that will be for the best, why spend American life or money defending Taiwan?
     
  7. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Eventually those loans are due, when governments can't repay and don't give up the strategic asset that they used as guarantee what will China do?

    Or next time that there is a change in government and the new government decides to nationalize business owned by Chinese companies, how will they react?

    We will see, they may react better than western powers or they may go down the same intervionist path using the protection of their business interests as an excuse, just like we have done.
     
  8. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Until the past week or so, it was never a problem to simply use private browsing on the site too.
     
  9. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    It is posting an entire article, linked or not, behind a paywall or not.
     
  10. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
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    LOL! I am going out on a limb here, but you don't read the Washington Post... or any publication that requires a paid subscription.
     
  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    Not after the free articles run out.
     
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  12. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
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    Well then stop trying to pass yourself off as sophisticated and well read.
     
  13. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    People have to pay for TPM? They should pay you to read it.
     
  14. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Wow, here is some first class analysis from a sophisticated and well read tool. It is too stupid to even warrant a comment.
     
  15. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Maybe. I'm not convinced that Belt and Road will be any more successful than when the Soviets pumped billions into their client states.

    But at the end of the day, if war breaks out in Montenegro or Kyrgyzstan or Thailand, we are still gonna be the major player.
     
  16. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    Also the South Pacific. I've read articles in the Cook Islands News that have shown increasing signs of worry by people there that China might start calling in favors for all the "gifts" it has given them.
     
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  17. Moishe

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    Here there and everywhere.
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    I’ve read a few of those articles as well. Seems that Australia is the most concerned by the Chinese Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs’ sugar coating of their stated and perceived intentions.
     
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  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    What? No executions?

    Everyone knows dear Leader is beloved by 100% of his people. Those pollsters were obviously part of the deep state/fake news cabal and deserve to be executed in the public square!!!!
     
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    Genius

     
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  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Step 2 - slash "entitlements"
    Step 3 - stock up on Friskies & Top Ramen
     
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  22. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    Nobody with a minimum of decency and self respect can work for this ass****.

     
  23. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    It never ceases to amaze what a deeply WEIRD person Donald Trump is.
     
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  24. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

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    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
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    Hey, those folks are job creators.
     
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  25. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    It never ceases to amaze me how many people pretend otherwise, first because he was rich, and now because it is politically expedient. He's a ********ing freak show.

    And once again, my comment is NOT political. I don't care that he is a Republican. I didn't write such things about Mitt, McCain, either Bush, Reagan, Dole, you name it. Today's Republicans love to combat Trump criticisms by pretending that they are politically motivated. ******** no. They are humanly motivated. He is a strange, evil person.
     
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