All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by RM or None, May 23, 2017.

  1. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    I think this could have been a factor.
    I understand being unstoppable on the wing but at the end of the day if you make a great run leaving two defenders behind and then shoot the ball to the stars that play was pointless.
    However I do not know how some of the other guys who were called up are better, like Neres for example who is not even Ajax’s best forward.
     
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  2. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    Neres right now (and in the R16 tie) is undoubtedly the better player. But Everton? Richarlison? C'mon.

    He said he was ready to play back in April. We're two weeks into May and all he's got is a measly 30 minute sub appearance, this is all on Zidane. Solari would have had this kid flying.
     
  3. Anders2555

    Anders2555 Member

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    Aug 23, 2018
    Rio de Janeiro
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    Vini could perfect by called instead of Everton "Cebolinha", Everton is a pure waste of time, everyone knows he will not be in the next world cup, and, Paquetá, Coutinho, Jesus, Fernandinho, Fagner, these not deserve to be called, but this stopped being the Brazilian team for some time, now is "The Tite Team",
     
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  4. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    You could be right . I just remembered him missing a 1 on 1 vs Courtois that looked very similar to Vini’s misses where he is totally off target with his shot, also didn’t know he also scored a great goal against Juve.
    Richarlison I know nothing about..
     
  5. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Bizarre decision, typical though for Brazil. Happened before, will keep happening until they get capable coaches.
     
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  6. Halycon

    Halycon Member+

    Aug 24, 2010
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    I hope they lose all their games.
     
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  7. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
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    Guys we hate Brazil now.... for a few months at least.
     
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  8. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    I hope Messi Boateng's Thiago so that Militao can finally take over
     
  9. Anders2555

    Anders2555 Member

    Flamengo
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    Aug 23, 2018
    Rio de Janeiro
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  10. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Nat'l Team:
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  11. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Top goals scorers in the Premier League 2018 / 2019 season (outside the top 6):

    Jamie Vardy - 18
    Callum Wilson - 14
    Richarlison - 13
    Raúl Jiménez - 13
    Glenn Murray - 13
    Gylfi Sigurdsson - 13

    Like it or not, Vin is NOT a goal scorer at this point. Richarlison is.
    Sounds harsh, but as @Digital Said, VJ needs to improve a lot in scoring department to get into the squad
     
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  12. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    When Tite gets fired in a humiliating fashion, remember this post.

    I can't believe I wanted Tite to manage Madrid last summer.. ugh
     
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  13. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    And that's what Firmino, Gabriel Jesus, Neymar, etc. are for.

    Plus Vinicius played all of about 3 months. If he had played from the beggining of the season and not been injured I don't have a hard time believing he could have cracked 13 goals. And in a side like Everton he would have been first choice from day one.
     
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  14. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    In approximately 1600 minutes, Vinicius has 3 goals 12 assists in all competitions for a total of 15 G+A.

    In approximately 2800 minutes, Richarlison has 14 goals 2 assists in all competitions for a total of 16 G+A.

    1200 more minutes for 1 more G+A.

    Not everything is goals. Vinicius is a creator.
     
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  15. russian hattie

    russian hattie Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
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    Yes let’s listen to the 18 year old kid tell us when he is fit and not the medical staff.

    Let’s be real. If he was brought straight back too quickly playing 90 mins in pointless games and got injured we would by lynching Zidane.

    He was most likely building towards playing 90 mins this weekend anyway. But now when he plays the 90 looks like some people will be saying “told you so”.
     
  16. russian hattie

    russian hattie Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
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    Did not realise the kid had 12 assists. Must be our top assist this season surely?
     
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  17. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    I’m really not sure what the debate is about here to be honest, unless you are a die hard Brazil fan, Vin is young and will surely get his chance for the national team, with some luck and dedication he could go on to be one of the best players out there, not going to this comp won’t stop that, or shouldn’t stop that I should say, but he’ll get to relax and be ready to go full throttle for Madrid for pre season and hopefully have a fantastic season, a real breakout one for us, which would be equally as impressive as starring for Brazil i think

    I can maybe get why Brazilian fans may be a bit disappointed but not sure why Madrid ones would be, him going to this tournament or not doesn’t change anything as far as how he will perform for us IMO, he gets to get fit and be ready to go, sorry he missed this one but I believe he will be a headliner at many more tournaments for Brazil in the future
     
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  18. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    7 of his assists did come in the Copa del Rey, but yes that is the most on the team in all competitions. 12 assists in 1600 minutes.

    In 2nd is Benzema with 11 assists, albeit in nearly 4300 minutes

    3rd i believe is Modric with 8 assists in nearly 3500 minutes.
     
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  19. russian hattie

    russian hattie Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
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    They all count. Total catalyst this season.
     
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  20. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
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    Jan 3, 2007
    Unreal
     
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  21. ABB94

    ABB94 Member+

    Feb 18, 2015
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    It doesn’t hurt him too much not going as he’ll have plenty of opportunities in the future. He plays in Neymar’s position so likely wouldn’t see a minute on the pitch. Neres plays on the other side which is what likely influenced the decision during selection. I really thought in that scenario, Lucas Moura would have been selected over the Ajax forward though.

    And I don’t think he was competing with Richarlison (who is a striker) for a place so an odd comparison.
     
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  22. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Richarlison has shown consistency with Watford too. The guy's a more reliable goal scorer than VJ, who got injured and missed a good part of his first season and he's very crude at this moment. One day he'll surely get better than them all, but this Brazil we're talking about. They have loads of talented players and can afford to try a few combinations on their own
     
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  23. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Agreed, especially since Fernandinho and Fagner were the reasons why Brazil lost to Belgium in WC 2018. Fernandinho does not have the legs anymore to play at the international level (irrespective of what he did at Man City); Fabinho should have been there. Alves does not have the legs to play as an RWB anymore either. He does not play that role anymore at PSG. So, Brazil's RB side is extremely weak at the moment. However, there is no proper RB at the moment in Brazil. So, I don't think anyone has been glaringly omitted as such (unlike the Fabinho vs Fernandinho situation).
     
  24. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Vinicius wasn't competing against Richarlison but Neres and Lucas Moura (plus Douglas Costa, Willian etc.). Neres got the nod (because before the last friendly, Vinicius got injured. Neres was called up instead and had a great game). At present, there is a dearth of strikers and RWBs in Brazil. G Jesus isn't working out. Firmino is not a prolific scorer. Richarlison has provided some goals in the matches he has played. So, there is no surprise why Richarlison was chosen.
     
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  25. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

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