Out With The Old & In With 7he New - Transfers, Rumors, & Lies Thread

He somehow convinced the management to give him a contract worth 7.5M/year . For comparison, that's what Zidane was earning in his first stint here (rumored to be 12M now).

Pochettino is earning 10M/year, Mou was on 8M and Diego freaking Simeone is the best paid coach with 24M/year.

 

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Sociedad already negotiating for Mayoral.

 

As much as I dislike his personality, no one is more important to Atletico than Diego Simeone. Griezmann earns 23 ME which is absurd when no one else earns there even 10 ME. Atletico were 7th and 9th in the two seasons before Simeone took over. That was with Forlan and Aguero forming one of the best attacks in the league.

He took them to league title 2 full seasons later and they have been CL regulars since. They played in CL twice during 15 years before Simeone took over. He transformed a joke club for decades into La Liga champions, twice runners up in La Liga amongst other achievements. When he leaves, Atletico might struggle to get a world class coach and go back into being a terribly ran club..

 

His importance is known to everyone, but he is still overpaid.

 

Oh so Raiola is gonna bring his client to Madrid and ask his client to slash his pay by nearly 40%? Is that the kinda agent you know him to be? This is the guy who squeezed every single penny out of Man Utd in order for his player to become the most expensive player in the world (albeit for a little while) as a midfielder. This is for a non-forward, non-goal scoring player...like you stated. I love how everyone wants to say his price tag isn't what we should focus on, yet turn around and use that same argument to bash Gareth Bale.

Paying 160 Mill for Neymar/Mbappe? Sure, I get it. They're gonna win us matches. They're gonna sell shirts and fill seats. They're gonna give us those goals that we sorely lack. Paul Pogba, the B2B champion of the world? Not for 600k a week. Gareth Bale is getting 400k a week and we're losing our minds because he had a bad season. Paul Pogba was nothing spectacular this season and we're turning around, willing to entertain that he's worth anything close to that?

Why are we comparing Gareth Bale to Paul Pogba? Because he's about to be our most expensive signing ever, alongside our highest earner in the team. That merits considering what he brings to the table. Will he dominate the midfield? Maybe. Nobody here can tell for sure. But we really have to weigh the other options before we nosedive into another expensive player who has potential attitude issues and questionable leadership qualities. He thrived as a leader for France, but hardly ever justified being given the spotlight at Man Utd.

All of this is a moot point anyway if Zidane really has a heart drawn on Pogba's picture. But I really don't think he's gonna improve us significantly enough, and he's certainly not gonna be enough of a game changer to justify what we'll be paying him higher than our entire squad.

 

When has either player cost €160M?

If oil state magically decided to sell either one the starting price wouldn't be less than €300M.

Don't even start on the wages...


Lol, just laugh remember how "bad an idea" some of RMBS felt it was to pay €180M for Mbappe and pay his "crazy" (media lies) wages. They said we should wait till he grows at PSG and proves himself.... as if the wages and transfer price would magically fall with time with the kid getting better.

 

If Pogba is after ridiculous wages he should just join PSG, they'd sign him instantly.

Knowing that there are other, potentially as good/better, midfielders available gives us some leverage. Eriksen would be a great reinforcement as well.

 

Haven't followed the rumours. I Agree however, Pogba shouldn't be the highest earning player at Real Madrid. That would be quite ridiculous (and I rate the guy).

 

If ridiculous wages is what he was after he wouldn't be trying to leave Manchester.

People just need villians and they need ways to justify their hate for them.

 

My issue was never with Mbappe's wages, those who did can speak for themselves. My issue was that it was illogical from Mbappe's perspective to come to Real Madrid when there was no chance he was playing ahead of Zidane's favorite son, Benzema, and he was going into a crucial portion of his career and a world cup season. It would've been close to career suicide. If he got stuck on the bench after working his ass off to "maybe" play some scrap minutes behind Benzema, Cristiano, and Bale it would've been disastrous at this junction of his career.

I actually give Mbappe a lotta credit for having the head on his shoulders to pick what was best for his career. Real Madrid isn't for everyone. Particularly for anyone who gets stuck behind our No. 9. Ask Morata, Mayoral, Chicarito, Mariano...heck even Higuain. So Mbappe did right by himself. He wanted to be paid the most, he wanted to be an undisputed starter, and he wanted his family to be given the royal treatment (alongside the supposed amenities that FootballLeaks claims he requested). Florentino Perez wasn't gonna bend to a 19-year-old's whims, and we got what we deserved.

Not just that, but we got played by Cristiano's super agent (according to AS) to drive up the price for Mbappe, so his employers could milk PSG for all they could. We weren't gonna have a bidding war with an Oil state (like you stated). So we were priced out as soon as PSG set their eyes on him.

Let's face the facts: If PSG wants anyone that we want, and it boils down to money, PSG will win 99.9% of the time. If the said player likes money (which they almost always do), we're doubly screwed.

 

Easy scheadule + new coach effect. Ole is a terrible pick and 3y contract. Another coach they will have to pay for a long time after he is gone. Even though Ole might have a little longer leash than usual. but If the results are the same as end oft season, making it to january is best even he can hope for. Out of the last 10 games they had like 5 of them without a shot on goal..... they were still in CL (unrealistic as it was to do anything either way.) And competing for top 4 . 2 More wins and they have CL next season, but last 9 games 2-2-5.

Every one can blame The players all they want but how is it that Mou was fully to blame for it earlier. 4 months on everything is on The players and Ole gets a free pass even when hes team is probably worse these last 10 games of the season than they ever were under Mou. ManU are the new Arsenal. We were terrible this year but it kinda had to happen. ManU on The other hand have years and years of ridicule ahead of them If things dont change majorly at the top of the club and even then the hole they have already dug is damn deep. Personally Im enjoying every second of that show.

 

These are the wages of our current players.

Llorente i believe is on 25k / week. Odriozola is on 45k/week. I have no info on Valverde and other ones who's wages are missing.

 

Deep down, I would be very happy if Paul Pogba joined us. He's a fellow Muslim, he's the leader of a young football generation in France, and he's easy to relate to because he comes from an immigrant family. So on a personal level, I'd enjoy seeing him play for Real Madrid.

But I also feel like he's a luxury for Real Madrid, particularly if we can't justify his wages. If he takes a pay cut, I say make Zidane happy. It'll be a nice "thank you for coming back to save our faces". But I just can't justify making him the highest paid earner in Real Madrid. We got rid of a 5 time Ballon D'Or winner and tanked a season because we didn't wanna pay up. I don't see Florentino going for Pogba and throwing the kitchen sink at Man Utd, for whom we're technically doing a favor. They wanna get rid of him anyways.

 

Nonsense.

Benzema was never the issue it was Bale and last I checked Benzema must also be the son of Lopetegui, Solari, Mourinho, Ancelotti and Benitez because all of them played him every chance they could and never dropped him.

Secondly, none of that adresses the point. The prices you are quoting is probably less than half of what those players would actually go for in this market. So don't us those falsehoods as "fact".

 

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I honestly can't believe that we are considering spending any amount of money on a LB.

These are the players currently under contract with the club who can play LB: Marcelo, Reguillon, Nacho, Ramos, Bale, Hakimi, Theo.

 

Refresh my memory. Theo for 25. Who is the other 75?

Does that list inspire you? Yikes

 

which players are we talking about ? Why not be more specific? There are some players who I rate highly irrespective of form and others not so much.
Also, what does this have anything to do with trusting Zidane will bring the best of Pogba?
We’ve all been discussing and the general consensus is that we need to refresh the squad. Top players raise the level of quality in a club and makes others raise their level as well to try and keep up. Our squad has been stale for many years.. The midfield players who have been trying to push Modric and Kroos out have not been top, starting with Isco and Kovacic.

Let’s break this down because I believe you have a misconception here . Matuidi is indeed a B2B but so was Pogba in the world cup. In addition, Pogba played deeper in a double pivot formation doing defensive work. Let’s not forget that most people were criticizing their coach because supposedly he was wasting Pogba’s talent by playing him as a second DM and Matuidi as a workhorse wingback.
So this narrative that somehow Pogba was free to do as he liked while both Kante and Matuidi covered for him defensively is completely false.

“Into the knockouts Pogba became more and more influential. The critics in general grew quieter and quieter. Against Argentina he enjoyed himself as France glided through the creative gears. Against Uruguay he helped his team to control the game and minimise pressure. Against Belgium he was strong and disciplined, supporting the defensive work with a mix of aggression and diligence. Pogba showed many facets to his game, able to do what was needed in different situations.
The connections he was making on the pitch became stronger. His bond with N’Golo Kanté flourished as a central midfield pair, though it was less effective in the final when Kanté strained to be his usual self. His instinctive understanding with Kylian Mbappé, as exemplified by that ravishing goal when they combined brilliantly as the teenager bounded on to Pogba’s sumptuous pass to ensure the final is remembered for some dazzling football as well as the strokes of first-half luck, is another major plus France take home from this tournament. As souvenirs go, a goal and an assist from that period of play will rightly be cherished by Pogba. ... From the Guardian.

You simply dont rate Pogba because you think he is lazy based on how he plays in MU. To me laziness and not doing defensive work in a midfielder is only about attitude and nothing to do with talent.
If Zidane can discipline Pogba to do what he wants, he will become a force in midfield like he was for France.

 

There is no point in me replying to this post because I dont like to argue hypotheticals - 600k a week , ok..

When everything that you say happens we can revisit this conversation.

The only thing I will mention is that Bale is indeed the highest earner in our club.. it is a reality, the money is actually coming out of the club right now, and he is forward not a midfielder

 

Ironically Bale is actually the best candidate from that list to replace Marcelo based on his attributes.