Out With The Old & In With 7he New - Transfers, Rumors, & Lies Thread

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  1. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    Everyone forgets that Benzema's production went UP when there was nothing to play for.
     
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  2. Varnagel

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    Jun 4, 2017
    Benzema scored against Ajax and even created the goal for Lucas Vazquez against Barcelona in CdR. However, Real Madrid conceded 8 goals while being completely outplayed against Barca/Ajax. Which caused elimination from CdR/UCL while practically being out from LaLiga race. Not really Benzema's fault on those cases tbh.

    Real Madrid have been pathetic this season. There was even a risk about the club being eliminated from a Champions League qualification next season. Benzema is the reason why RM secured a top 4 spot.
     
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  3. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    New York Cosmos
    #9653 robnycus, May 15, 2019
    Last edited: May 15, 2019
    Did Toni Kroos raise to the occasion when he played the CL finals?
    How many goals has he scored in Finals/ SF?
    His only goals in a final that I can remember were his goals against Argentina in the 2014 WC final.. same as Pogba against Croatia.

    If Pogba was in the losing teams that is not his fault. People who think Pogba is and will become the most important player for us need to get it through their heads that is not the case.. please make an effort to understand that his high price tag does not mean he is best player in the team or the one who we would rely on the most. he is B2B - Gundogan/Paulihno type of player but with more technical abilities.


    Was Kroos ever the most important player for us..
    Never has been and never will and he is the player he would be replacing .. not Gareth Bale, not Cristiano Ronaldo
     
  4. Varnagel

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    Jun 4, 2017
    Kroos plays significantly much deeper and goals shouldn't be used for him.

    The comparison between him and Pogba dosen't make sense.
     
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  5. hala_madrid722

    hala_madrid722 Member+

    Jan 10, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Kroos didn’t score in the final 2014 vs Argentina
     
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  6. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    ^ And how do you know how Is Zidane planning to play him? Has he told you?

    Pogba can excel in a double pivot formation.
     
  7. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Against Brazil - SF . My bad
     
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  8. hala_madrid722

    hala_madrid722 Member+

    Jan 10, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    No worries bro
     
  9. Romanero

    Romanero Member+

    Oct 28, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    Then he shouldnt get one of the highest pay, if not the highest. He shouldnt get more than Ramos, Hazard, and so on. Now good luck making him drop 40% of his salary or something close to that
     
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  10. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Those are all unconfirmed rumors.
    I am not believing that until He signs and his salary is confirmed.
     
  11. Romanero

    Romanero Member+

    Oct 28, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    His current wage isnt a rumour tho, which mean he'd need to have a big drop in wages either way
     
  12. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People comparing Kroos and Pogba. Uh Toni Kroos wasn't the clubs all time most expensive transfer, of course he's not held to that standard.

    So Pogba has no control over his transfer price, fair enough. Come back when you have a little more influence because we have control over what we pay on our end and we absolutely shouldn't be getting into 9 figures transfer fee for a player who isn't generational, isn't the consensus best player in his position, and for all practical purposes isn't even necessary for the team to succeed.
     
  13. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    I heard Griezman will also be dropping his wages.
    That is not unheard of.
     
  14. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    You have to compare him because that is the player and role that he will be replacing and he is an upgrade to Kroos therefore the team will improve.
    His transfer fee was inflated from the get go.. , again not his fault.
    Zidane has a vision and most likely Pogba is the player he wants for that particular role..
     
  15. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #9665 saadomar, May 15, 2019
    Last edited: May 15, 2019
    Why are we not getting rid of a bunch of our defenders? Primarily Marcelo, Vallejo and Nacho? Marcelo has been nothing short of garbage this season. We're selling Reguilon, who looked like he actually exerted himself to keep a guy who just isn't himself anymore. Nacho and Vallejo were not good enough whenever we had Ramos or Varane out. Nacho and Vallejo are also ineffective at communicating and organizing with their defensive partners, which makes them liabilities. Casemiro is also no longer worth a starting spot.

    At this point, we should be going "DRACARYS" to the whole back line!
     
  16. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    No one can change a game all by themselves for me that is a myth, all I can say about “put some trust hoping that under Zidane he will raise his level an play how he demonstrated that he can at the World Cup” is, are you prepared to put that same trust in some of the players we already have here who are under performing as well but have been instrumental in “winning” under the same Zidane or is it just with new players that this phenomenon can occur

    And secondly, as we witnessed at the very same World Cup and with every team and coach he has played for are you willing to have two defensive minded players work, run, and tackle to win the ball for him ( Kante and the real b2b Matuidi) as the way that our team plays ?, are you now willing to have one midfielder that isn’t everywhere all the time after everyone was not happy with that exact same situation with our current players?, just because the name is different? Again, lots of energy with the ball, not nearly enough without it
     
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  17. ahnaf

    ahnaf Member+

    Jun 9, 2013
    Dhaka,Bangladesh
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bangladesh
    Pretty sure its just with new players. Looking to buy a 26 yo for a record sum who only did anything of a note in the last 3 year, is playing well in knockout stages of WC. Crazy stuff. I am not a fan of either pogba or eriksen but if i have to choose, i will pick eriksen over pogba anyday. Atleast he has been consistent for spurs.

    More rumors on hazard and jovic please.
     
  18. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Rabiot celebrated his team being knocked out of the CL, demanded playing time, blamed teammates and on and on, any team that signs him is asking for trouble.
     
  19. TumE

    TumE Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #9669 TumE, May 16, 2019
    Last edited: May 16, 2019
    Great midfielders definitely change a game. They change The complexity of The entire team.
    Pogba is no upgrade on Kroos and cant play The same role. He doesnt have The brain, talent or tactical dicipline

    Why do you want players you know nothing about? You have already stated that we should tell you what good DMs are out there etc. Do you want Pogba cause his The only midfielder you know of? Cause I think it is.
     
  20. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Usually French midfield players with annoying agents that quit on their team go for upwards of 100 mil.
     
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  21. Prit Javier

    Prit Javier Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    May 9, 2018
    Buy Eriksen, Ndombele....
    Modric can start from the bench
    Kroos, Casemiro, Fede, leaves enough options in midfield that way.
     
  22. TumE

    TumE Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Fixed that for you.

    And to be honest you are being way too kind with "annoying" :D
     
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  23. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I believe Pogba is due to receive a 25% wage cut at United due to playing in Europa League. That might be one of the reasons why he wants to move, the others being that United is a shit team now :D.
     
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  24. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Strange. Back when Ole took over and I said the schedule was kind to him and a generally bad team people were highlighting how nice they play and how the shackles are off and how Mou was holding them back, but now they are a bad team again.
     
  25. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
     
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