Never heard a sweeter sounding word than Feyenoord part 2

https://www.fr-fans.nl/nieuws/39852...d-sfeeracties-met-grote-spandoeken-en-vlaggen
Tuchtcommissie adviseert Feyenoord: 'Verbied sfeeracties met grote spandoeken en vlaggen
24 maart 2019 10:08 Bron: Knvb.nl
google translated
Disciplinary Committee advises Feyenoord: 'Prohibit atmospheric actions with large banners and flags


Enkele weken geleden krijg Feyenoord te horen dat ze, na herhaaldelijk wangedrag van de supporters, een zware straf krijgt van de Nederlandse voetbalbond. De KNVB bestrafte Feyenoord, omdat supporters keer op keer vuurwerk afstaken in de Kuip, iets waar men in Zeist fel op tegen is. Vuurwerk is onveilig, zegt men. Feyenoord ging in beroep tegen de straf van € 15.000,- en het dichthouden van Vak S tegen sc Heerenveen, maar kreeg nul op het rekest.


A few weeks ago, Feyenoord was told that, after repeated misconduct by the supporters, she received a severe punishment from the Dutch football association. The KNVB penalized Feyenoord, because supporters lit fireworks time and time again in De Kuip, something that is strongly opposed to in Zeist. Fireworks are unsafe, they say. Feyenoord appealed against the penalty of € 15,000 and the keeping of Section S against SC Heerenveen, but received zero on the complaint.

Op social media werd vooral boos gereageerd naar de Stadionclub. Feyenoord zou nauwelijks verweer hebben gevoeld en eigenlijk wel blij zijn geweest met de steun van de KNVB. Ook Feyenoord wil geen vuurwerk in het stadion, zo werd geconcludeerd. Na bestudering van de uitspraak van de tuchtcommissie, kan echter worden gesteld dat Feyenoord het zeker niet eens was met de KNVB.

Social media were particularly angry at the Stadionclub. Feyenoord would have hardly put up any defense and would have been happy with the support of the KNVB. It was also concluded that Feyenoord does not want fireworks in the stadium. After studying the decision of the disciplinary committee, it can however be said that Feyenoord certainly did not agree with the KNVB.

De aanklager betoogde dat Feyenoord, door sfeeracties met grote spandoeken en vlaggen mede mogelijk te maken, het afsteken van vuurwerk in de hand werkt, omdat daders daardoor moeilijker zijn op te sporen. Zo zegt de aanklager: 'Het toestaan van een sfeeractie met grote spandoeken en vlaggen brengt (red.) een risico met zich mee met betrekking tot de identificatie van bepaalde personen die
vuurwerk afsteken. De Aanklager stelt in dat kader dat uit het onderzoek is gebleken dat Feyenoord bekend was met een door de supporters – van tevoren – georganiseerde sfeeractie. Bij opkomst van de spelers zouden Vak S en de omringende vakken gevuld zijn met vlaggen. Onder deze doeken werden meerdere fakkels en rookpotten aangestoken'. Volgens de Aanklager kan de conclusie worden getrokken dat Feyenoord daarom niet voldoende maatregelen heeft genomen.

The prosecutor argued that by facilitating atmospheric actions with large banners and flags, Feyenoord encourages the firing of fireworks, because it makes it harder to detect perpetrators. The prosecutor says: 'Allowing an atmospheric action with large banners and flags entails (ed.) A risk with regard to the identification of certain persons who
lighting fireworks. In that context, the Prosecution argues that the investigation showed that Feyenoord was familiar with an atmosphere promotion organized in advance by the supporters. Upon the players' rise, Section S and the surrounding sections would be filled with flags. Several torches and smoke pots were lit under these cloths'. According to the Prosecution, the conclusion can be drawn that Feyenoord has therefore not taken sufficient measures.

Onder meer Joris van Benthem, huisjurist van Feyenoord, ging hier fel tegen in. Hij stelt dat Feyenoord juist heel veel doet, van fouilleren tot waarschuwen via social media en in het stadion en het opsporen van overtreders met het eigen camerasysteem. Buiten dat vindt Feyenoord dat er een verschil moet worden gemaakt tussen vuurwerk dat wordt gebruikt om de wedstrijd te verstoren, vuurwerk dat gewelddadig wordt gebruikt en vuurwerk dat juist wordt gebruikt om sfeer te creëren. Alleen dat laatste was namelijk aan de hand bij de wedstrijd waarvoor Feyenoord wordt bestraft (Feyenoord - PSV). 'De aanklager scheert alles over één kam', aldus Van Benthem.

Joris van Benthem, in-house lawyer at Feyenoord, among others, strongly opposed this. He argues that Feyenoord does a great deal, from searching to warning via social media and in the stadium and tracing offenders with its own camera system. Apart from that, Feyenoord believes that a distinction should be made between fireworks that are used to disrupt the competition, fireworks that are used violently and fireworks that are used to create atmosphere. Only the latter was the case at the match for which Feyenoord is penalized (Feyenoord - PSV). "The prosecutor shaves everything together," says Van Benthem.

De tuchtcommissie ging hier dus echter niet in mee en zegt dat Feyenoord sfeeracties met grote spandoeken en vlaggen maar moet verbieden, omdat ze dan beter daders kan opsporen. Vuurwerk is levensgevaarlijk, zo stelt de commissie. 'Indien Feyenoord tijdens deze wedstrijd de supporters in vak S had verboden om gebruik te maken van vlaggen en spandoeken, dan had Feyenoord hiermee kunnen aantonen dat zij nadere maatregelen had getroffen die de club weliswaar minder populair maakt bij de harde kern-supporters, maar wel effectiever zouden zijn dan de maatregelen die in het verleden waren getroffen'.

However, the disciplinary committee did not agree with this and says that Feyenoord should only ban atmospheric actions with large banners and flags, because it would be better for them to detect perpetrators. Fireworks are extremely dangerous, the committee says. 'If Feyenoord had prohibited the fans in section S from using flags and banners during this competition, then Feyenoord could have demonstrated that it had taken further measures that, although it made the club less popular with hard core supporters, would be more effective than the measures taken in the past. "



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So from this reconstruction of the firework problem VAK S brought it upon themselves by letting people misbehave.
On top of that however Feyenoord management shows the half hearted take on fireworks by making a distinction on how it is used.
Feckers, you only know how it is used after the event. You cannot let people enter the stand with fireworks under a presumption it will be used in a good manner. That on itself shows the reason why it happens and why people are on the stands with that stuff in their pockets.
That whole claim you do search is simply a complete lie if you claim there is a difference in usage. If you make that distinction, you cannot be serious about searching for it.
Stop lying and start executing rigorous measures.


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https://www.vi.nl/nieuws/jorgensen-lucht-in-deense-media-zijn-hart-over-toekomst-bij-feyenoord
Jørgensen lucht in Deense media zijn hart over toekomst bij Feyenoord.
Jørgensen ventilates his feelings about his future with Feyenoord.
He's not happy with how things have been going this season. Hints at a possible departure.



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Thahit-Chong lying his teeth out:
,,Ik ben niet voor het geld weggegaan”, zegt Chong. ,,Het was gewoon tijd voor iets anders. United is één van de grootste clubs ter wereld. Als die categorie aanklopt dan moet je dat zien als een unieke kans. Ik blijf Feyenoord dankbaar. Die club gaf mij de kans, dat zal ik nooit vergeten.”

"I didn't leave for the money," says Chong. ,, It was just time for something else. United is one of the largest clubs in the world. If that category is right then you should see that as a unique opportunity. I remain grateful to Feyenoord. That club gave me the chance, I'll never forget that. "




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Totally believable. I worked with her brother when she was a young girl, in the same company as she and her father was. They were very much into Feyenoord.



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Today Martin van Geel announced his resignation coming july the first.
This is thanks to negative exposure by a certain group of Feyenoord "fans", including van Hanegem.
These same fans can also have made the farewell match for Gio and Robin impossible, as we might face a punishment of a match without fans for continious fireworks offences.
If for the benefit of Feyenoord someone should leave the stadium I guess it should be these cvnts that continually cost us fines/bans with UEFA and KNVB. MvG has led the club out of financial misery. Van Hanegem and these cvnts have never done one thing in the last twenty years that benefitted Feyenoord. On the contrary.



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Well, in the first half they played badly and got two goals behind, but in the second half they changed things and we should have won the match. However that went out of the window with a last gasp fluke goal from Utrecht.



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If the title race was only decided by the matches against PSV and Ajax, we would be champion.
https://www.vi.nl/nieuws/feyenoord-dit-seizoen-kampioen-van-de-toppers
Feyenoord dit seizoen kampioen van de toppers
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Feyenoord heeft dit seizoen het beste gepresteerd in de onderlinge duels van clubs uit de traditionele topdrie. Die conclusie kunnen we trekken na de kampioenskraker tussen Ajax en PSV van zondag. De Rotterdammers blijven Ajax één punt voor.

Opmerkelijk is dat in vijf van de zes toppers de thuisclub aan het langste eind trok. De uitzondering op deze regel is PSV - Feyenoord van 24 februari: 1-1. Het is aan deze uitslag te danken dat de strijd der toppers dit seizoen niet op doelsaldo is beslist.


De equipe van Giovanni van Bronckhorst verloor deze competitie slechts één topper, maar ging verder in zeven andere wedstrijden onderuit. Het verklaart meteen de royale achterstand van de Rotterdammers op de huidige toptwee. Sinds de jaarwisseling won het kwakkelende Feyenoord zelfs maar drie keer, waaronder van Ajax (6-2).

De toppers in 2018/19:


23-09-2018 PSV - Ajax 3-0
28-10-2018 Ajax - Feyenoord 3-0
02-12-2018 Feyenoord - PSV 2-1
27-01-2019 Feyenoord - Ajax 6-2
24-02-2019 PSV - Feyenoord 1-1
31-03-2019 Ajax - PSV 3-1

google translate:
Feyenoord this season champion of the toppers
6 p.m.

Feyenoord this season champion of the toppers

Feyenoord has performed best this season in the mutual duels of clubs from the traditional top three. We can draw that conclusion after the champion cracker between Ajax and PSV on Sunday. The team from Rotterdam is one point ahead of Ajax.

It is remarkable that in five of the six bests, the home club took the lead. The exception to this rule is PSV - Feyenoord from 24 February: 1-1. It is thanks to this result that the battle of the top players has not been decided on goal difference this season.

The team of Giovanni van Bronckhorst lost this competition only one topper, but went down in seven other games. It immediately explains the generous backlog of the Rotterdammers on the current top two. Since the turn of the year, Feyenoord has been struggling to win only three times, including Ajax (6-2).
The toppers in 2018/19:
23-09-2018 PSV - Ajax 3-0
28-10-2018 Ajax - Feyenoord 3-0
02-12-2018 Feyenoord - PSV 2-1
27-01-2019 Feyenoord - Ajax 6-2
24-02-2019 PSV - Feyenoord 1-1
31-03-2019 Ajax - PSV 3-1





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We let you win that match so Ajax fans and players can enjoy a perfect pitch.




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So the banned shitheads did everything to prove the KNVB's point regarding them and the absence of Feyenoord efforts to reign them in.
https://www.ad.nl/rotterdam/vijf-ar...ndom-wedstrijd-feyenoord-heerenveen~ac398b90/
They fired flares from outside the stadium on the pitch. These might easily have landed on the terraces injuring people.
Thorough screening next season of Stand S current season ticket holders required.
And van Hanegem should stop making these cvnts important as Feyenoord supporters.



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That really is the way to convince the KNVB they're wrong by endangering people with shooting flares from outside in. In fact with this dangerous act this lot has proven they are incapable to learn and persistent in malign behaviour. There's only one answer to such recidivistic behaviour, whether born out of stupidity or simple vandalistic tendencies. Weed them out with a area ban of 500 meters, so they cannot possibly shoot any flares into the stadium. A fitting punishment could be another complete Vak S match ban.
The comments placed on twitter shows the imbecility of these cvnts.



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Can't comment on them as I havenot got time to follow the matches in the second league. It for sure helps them develop with full grown opposition to fight against.

 

I'm getting fed up with that Martina guy in the line up. He's not good enough as a defender and on top of that is pretty much worthless going forward, which is an indispensable trait for any Feyenoord defender. Without it our attacking style suffers.
WE HAVE BETTER THAN HIM IN THE ACADEMY.




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The win against VVV away was a relief as we away in Venlo have far worse stats than away against Ajax.





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As I posted before that can only be judged when he gets more playing time to develop his skills, because as a result of the stupid decision to keep Young Feyenoord outside the pyramid, our talents donot get the chance to develop in regular competition against guys that fight for their pay check instead of against kids that donot put the pressure on the pitch.




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Amsterdam are going to have a new police chief. He's going to put on his office wall a remarkable item


I suggest he locks his office when not in it. Some police officers could become arsenes
It's a shirt with the signatures of all 2016-2017 champion team players.
If a cop has to be punished disciplinary, I suggest he must stare at it for a couple of hours, while singing "Hand in hand"




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