2019 HOT SEAT

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by allovercollegesoccer, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    yeah, it was kinda lame. I just felt like contributing something.
     
  2. Collegewhispers

    Collegewhispers Member+

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I think we should add UCLA to the hot list due to recent circumstances.
     
  3. Lord Kril

    Lord Kril Member

    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Jul 3, 2018
    Maybe a power 5 coach looking for a different life? You've seen it with RR at Dartmouth.
     
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  4. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #154 Holmes12, Mar 25, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2019
    Going to an Ivy relieves the burdens of managing money and natty expectations. You're not expected to beat Harvard, Princeton and Penn in the league and the parents are coming to you, begging you for admission letter.... make a little gravy, maybe.. .Easy peasy Japanesey. Rice, you're still kinda P5, or are they P5? They're in that AAU or whatever trans-con leftover league, right? You still don't get much relief.
     
  5. WACySOCCERWORLD

    Jan 28, 2014
    What's up with Asheville?
     
  6. MotorBob

    MotorBob Member

    Oct 24, 2007
    Everywhere has it's pros and cons. The pay may be low but the city is special and unique. I can't imagine it is that difficult to find a coach
     
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  7. Fish On

    Fish On Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    Club:
    AC Mantova
    Chitty weather, drugs, many homeless addicts, a lot of craft beer, lousy fishing. Nothing really special or unique about that.
     
  8. outsiderview

    outsiderview Member

    Oct 1, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    With houses $225/sq ft and a salary in the high $40k range, they'll need to find someone with a wealthy spouse, or a single person willing to live in a tree house.
     
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  9. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana St. Louis City

    St. Louis City SC
    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Collegewhispers

    Collegewhispers Member+

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
  11. Lord Kril

    Lord Kril Member

    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Jul 3, 2018
     
  12. Fish On

    Fish On Member

    Oct 22, 2016
    Club:
    AC Mantova
    Better school academically, national recruiting and an opportunity to win...
     
  13. Collegewhispers

    Collegewhispers Member+

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    Outside of academics does LSU not provide the other two possibilities?
     
  14. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #164 cpthomas, Mar 29, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2019
    Lord Kril, I noticed your original post on this and almost repped it and asked if you knew something, which I thought might be the case.

    Good one!
     
  15. PoetryInMotion

    Feb 7, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Steve Holeman to LSU makes sense.
     
  16. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was wondering about this when I first read it.

    I'm not criticizing, but I'm interested in finding out how this particular "focusing on hiring a female" came into being. Can you give us any insight as to whether your source really knew, or was it just a rumor or someone's supposition? (I was pretty sure, at the time you posted it, that it was not the case.)
     
  17. Wildcatter

    Wildcatter Member

    Sep 9, 2018
    I think Brian was on the hot seat at LSU. Saved himself last season by his run in the SEC tournament. Probably got more years on his contract at Rice than what LSU was willing to renew for? Just a guess
     
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  18. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #168 cpthomas, Mar 29, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2019
    I know it's just a guess, so you get a pass, but you're wrong. You've let yourself get caught in the assumption that a Power 5 coaching job necessarily is more desirable to a serious coach than a coaching job in a next tier conference.

    In my opinion, this is a really positive thing for D1 women's soccer. Not all the best jobs are Power 5 jobs.
     
  19. outsiderview

    outsiderview Member

    Oct 1, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Incorrect. He was on the hot seat going in to 2018, did very well to save his job. They did not give him a very good extension and let him out of current contract all together to go to Rice. Smart move for him if he wants a place with longevity. LSU did not show they wanted him long term even after a stellar year. Always better to be at a place that they want you. Brian will do very well at Rice.

    Rice is not a better job than LSU, let’s not be silly. Not a better conference, not better pay, not a better chance of making NCAA. It’s better academically and that’s it. This move is about job security.

    Next you’ll say UIC is a better job than Miss State and that’s why that coach left with multiple years left on his contract.
     
  20. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And you know this from what source? (Seriously. Maybe you know more from an authoritative source than I do.)
     
  21. Wildcatter

    Wildcatter Member

    Sep 9, 2018
    I just can't imagine leaving LSU for Rice unless it was job security reason. If I only got a 1 or 2 year extension at LSU where I have been recently struggling and a good Rice program offered me a 5-7 year contract I would definitely jump ship and head to Rice.

    Very few people in their right mind would leave a school like LSU for Rice if the job security was the same at both programs.
     
  22. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #172 cpthomas, Mar 29, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2019
    "Very few" is not "all." How do you explain Anagnost leaving Mississippi State for Illinois Chicago? There can be good reasons to leave a Power 5 team for a next tier team (not that Illinois Chicago qualifies as a "next tier" team). For some coaches, a better job is different than a Power 5 job, and I say that can be a legitimate decision that shouldn't be subject to, "What, there must be something wrong or the guy's nuts."

    Although I'll agree that Power 5 coaching positions are inherently "hot seats." It's a "What have you done for me lately?" culture.
     
  23. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A few more thoughts on the LSU v Rice decision.

    Based on my looks at team histories, LSU is right around its "natural resting position." That means that it may do better for a while than where it is right now, it may do worse for a while, but it's natural gravitational pull is going to be back to around where it is right now. Maybe an Athletic Director is pushing for more, but that's not realistic over the long term. If that's what the AD is pushing for, it's an inherently/impossibly bad situation for a coach.

    For Rice, it's a little less clear. Their natural resting position may be a little better than where they are now, and a top level coach may be able to get them to be able to perform above that level during his/her tenure.

    These and other considerations should go into a coach's decision making process.

    Of course, if you think being a Power 5 coach is the be all and end all, you won't agree.
     
  24. Sockers1

    Sockers1 Member

    Nov 7, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Could be right, looks like his salary at LSU was 115...seems pretty low in the SEC!
     
  25. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Yea, if you fear losing your job in a year or two, as Lee may have felt at LSU, then I can see jumping to Rice, which seems like a pretty nice school, especially if you get comparable money and longer term on your deal, and there are a lot of good soccer players in Texas. Might very well be a smart move. I wonder if the coaches at Georgia and Alabama expressed interest in the Rice job as well! The cannot be having a comfortable off-season.
     

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