If NCAA wanted to, they could. It’s not hard to use the “lack of institutional control” reasoning they’ve used before. Especially with a situation like UCLA where it seems the coach was a bit of a ring-leader with some of the issues.
Hmmmm. The comments from the UCLA player seem to indicate this wasn’t a surprise to all. If this was a “surprise attack” and the named kids were the first wave of this type of scam then the NCAA may write a few rules etc. to warn all schools. If this had been going on for years I could see them taking a different path with some schools.
Well how could the AD of the individual sports not know? They know when a person is “fast tracked” through the athlete protocol. This is just the tip of the iceberg on all cases with the coaches.
Based on the initial reports, Salcedo was hardly a ring leader, and if he was he vastly underpaid himself. He has his fingerprints on 2 students that went to UCLA and pocketed a cool $200,000 for his efforts. The Georgetown tennis coach was involved with 12 students to the tune of $2.6 million. Ali at USC was involved in getting students to UCLA, Yale, and USC and received $400,000. USC in fact had 4 staff members involved, including an Associate AD.
But, if he's involved with multiple students and multiple schools, I'd consider that "a bit of a ring-leader." Were there bigger players, yes. Not denying or negating anything like that. But, how I read it, Salcedo was involved deeper than just at UCLA. I read in one of the multiple reports that Salcedo was communicated with and helped organize with the USC coaches for their students. Which, I did read wrong -- it was the USC coaches who initiated everything. I'd venture to say that none of these coaches were oblivious to what was happening.
Based on these reports, these coaches knew exactly what they were doing, and they got busted. I was just balking at the mischaracterization of Salcedo being the ring-leader.
My thought is the AD was not aware of this type of scam and therefore might not even think to scrutinize the sports resume of a preferred walk on to prevent a scam. (Up until yesterday) So, the NCAA will possibly say “going forward, here are new rules” but I don’t think they will seek to prove institutional negligence. But I may be wrong...
Jorge is toast so who gets the UCLA gig? And will they have to release their 2019/20 recruits from their commitments if the recruits so desire?
I never said he was "the ring-leader." I said "a bit of a ring-leader." I have no problems standing by that. If someone is associated with multiple schools, multiple programs, multiple athletes, I'll say they are more than just involved -- they'll part organizer of the situation.
Probably the wrong assistant! And somewhere in Portland, a big wry smile appears on the face of Nick Carlin Voigt.
I believe there are circumstances in which there are players outside of the formal roster that are “on the team”. The assumption I’ve made is they are were walk ons that provided training depth and protection against injuries depleting the roster. I thought the trade off was you get to be on the team, get some gear but likely won’t play. I suspect that varies...A big time school might not have the same policies as a small conference school.
Student health insurance might not cover participation in varsity athletics without a rider paid by the athletic department.
Probably true, my guess is they are on the team from that perspective but let’s talk about a track and XC team. They only run XC in the fall, you could be “on the track team” as a sprinter and doing off season work etc but not compete in anything until winter track. Even then, given the lack of meets etc if you are not in the top 3-4 people at your distance you may go all winter and spring and not run a competitive meet or only compete in a “b” race here or there. I can’t say if they are recognized from an insurance perspective, how many preference slots coaches get and how easy it would be put 1-2 people into that category who never compete. My experience is there are those kids on most teams, and soccer players too, and I suspect there isn’t a tight accounting for them at most schools.
A college without a bureaucracy? You're joking, right? On the other end, once my son's eligibility ran out, he was "recruited" by intramural teams.
Touche’ They have lots of it, which likely breeds a whole lot of ‘gaps’. This guy Singer was exploiting those gaps at some schools - my guess is the gap exists at far more schools but people weren’t exploiting it for profit. Somebody mentioned a limit on how many exemptions a coach could get...for a coach running men’s and womens track or swimming or a lacrosse team, they could easily use a slot or two and not materially impact their team performance.
I hope the investigators interview the UCLA player who said “I told you so”. Depending on what he told the athletics department it could expand the investigation.
UCLA has A LOT of explaining to do to A LOT of former players. I hope they make reparations .....for a false promises that were made. Realize this is just one player who spoke up. There are many others who did not. I have some questions for the AD as well. I am just curious how the AD did the accounting for the 8.5 scholarships that supposedly when to the team.....My other 2 kids the bill showed up...Volleyball scholarship $x, Basketball scholarship $x. UCLA under Jorge was what I call funny $. Why you have to call the coach multiple times asking for the scholarship money to be applied and be threatened with your child’s expulsion for non-payment when he has already play 3 preseason 90 min games is odd. Then he tells you there is no $ when 2 other recruits in the same class decommit and turn pro and there is still no $, we found very strange. It is funny looking back now that he received his 2 payments 6/2016 and 10/2016. Right when my kid graduated high school and attended as a freshman. Right when he bought his new home in Beverly Hills on his $300k salary. I find it suspicious. I find it hard to believe that a compliance officer would not notice or an AD would not know which players (or rich students) were getting the $.
He is officially out and makes ESPN. http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/26326583/ucla-soccer-coach-admissions-scandal-resigns Who's on the shortlist to replace him?
Some early thoughts: George Kuntz, Eddie Soto, Jeremy Fishbein This is all very unsettling. It’s been a long time since I’ve had a connection, but to see this happen is truly sad. I’m also pissed off. He ran a great program into the ground.