Yanks on Foreign YNTs (1997 and later)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Apr 15, 2016.

  1. Clint Eastwood

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    Dec 23, 2003
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  2. ussoccer97531

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    Not every dual-nat is going to play for us. If he wasn’t good enough before getting called in by the Swedish U-19’s, why should he all of a sudden get a call in to the US U-20’s?
     
  3. Clint Eastwood

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    Dec 23, 2003
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    I will say that we've called up some pretty fringe players over the last couple of U20 camps.

    While I think we have some really good options for the World Cup (and even some depth with guys like Keita)......................its surprising we didn't call up McCue to a "casting a wide" net camp. I mean, we had a player from Holy Cross at the last camp. McCue is an MLS homegrown centerback.
     
  4. ussoccer97531

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    McCue is an '01. For argument's sake, lets say he was better than the CB from Holy Cross. I don't think we should start calling up every player in a younger age group who is better than a deep-depth option who won't make the U-20 WC team. If that was the case, we'd have 20-25 01's, 02's, 03's who get called into the U-20's this cycle. I don't think that sets a good precedent. Do they have a good chance to help teams that will play in the important tournaments (qualifying, WC)? That should be the considerations for calling in a player to play up a year.

    Also, I don't think it sets a good precedent where the NT feels like they have to promote players beyond the level they think they should be playing at because that player is a dual-national. If McCue was the caliber of someone like Araujo, its a different discussion, but it seems like USSF thinks he's not. From what I've seen, I'd agree with that. Not every dual-national is going to play for the USA. I wouldn't disagree with calling him into his own age-group. He's a good enough player, but I don't think he should be handed a spot due to his dual-nationality that he hasn't otherwise earned.
     
  5. ChuckMe92

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    Jun 23, 2016
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    Somewhat random, but it occurred to me that '99 Joshua Burnett who was at a US U18 camp in 2016 is the same guy who was the #8 for Trinidad in U17 World Cup qualifying in 2015. So he falls under the Balogun, Edwards, McMaster, Perry group of being in US camps despite being provisionally cap-tied to another country. Burnett and Edwards both played against the US in a competitive youth match before joining up at a US camp. I don't believe any of them have filed a one-time switch to the US yet. Burnett is all but out of the USYNT picture by now, but just an interesting piece of trivia.
     
  6. Luksarus

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    Jul 27, 2018
    When I saw the match between Georgia and PDA in 2015 I was surprised with Burnett's level, at that moment I thought I could be a decent prospect, but after that I have not heard more about him.
     
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  7. Clint Eastwood

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    Watches with a snicker on his face....................(I know this makes me a bad person).
    CONCACAF'D!!!

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  8. BostonRed

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  9. Clint Eastwood

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    Letayf continues to be part of Mexico's U17s. If he's selected for this U17 CONCACAF Championships before he's got his US citizenship, this one is..................ova. That would be a shame, because I do rate this kid.

     
  10. ussoccer97531

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    It was a matter of time. Very good player. Not much USSF can do as he's not that close to citizenship. If Mexico took notice (and he's definitely good enough to play for their YNT's), he was a goner.
     
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  11. ChuckMe92

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  12. ChuckMe92

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    Efrain Alvarez and Santiago Munoz are also in the squad for Mexico.

    No Ricardo Pepi or Sagir Arce. Pepi and Arce have been significantly outperforming Munoz at club youth level -- Pepi 19 goals in less than 700 minutes for Dallas U17, Arce 15 goals in 1100 minutes for Morelia U17, Munoz 8 goals in 1300 minutes for Santos U17.
     
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  13. xbhaskarx

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  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Boyd is a '94.
     
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  15. ChuckMe92

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  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Did the McCue callup happen yet? A quick attempt to search for a callup list didn't yield anything.
     
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  17. Luksarus

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  18. ChuckMe92

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    Still haven't seen anything else for the Canada Dunning callup. He may have received a callup but it's unclear if he actually accepted. His IG profile is still pro-US. Haven't seen anything else about the Sweden McCue callup either.
     
  19. Ger90

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    02-Malik Tillman called up to Germany U17 Euro qualifier. The provisional cap tie is all but certain.
     
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  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Dunning was listed on a March 1 Canada U17 roster for a camp that seems to be happening now.

    M- Jamie Dunning | NED / Feyenoord​

    https://www.canadasoccer.com/canada...o-trip-as-part-of-men-s-excel-program-p162078
     
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  21. ussoccer97531

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    Benji Michel accepted a call up to the Haitian NT.
     
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  22. ChuckMe92

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  23. ChuckMe92

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    You-know-who is there, although Avilez and Nava seem to have fallen out of favor with them.

    Sebastian Medina and RSL's Julian Vazquez with the U18s again.

    They also named a U22 roster that didn't include any of Gutierrez, Romero, or Zendejas. It certainly doesn't help Romero's Mexico chances that he left Mexico to move to LA Galaxy.
     
  24. BostonRed

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    Folarin Balogun named to the England U18 squad:

    The Squad

    Goalkeepers: Luca Ashby-Hammond (Fulham), George Wickens (Fulham), Josh Griffiths (West Bromwich Albion)

    Defenders: Vontae Daley-Campbell (Arsenal), Dylan Crowe (Ipswich Town), Cody Drameh (Fulham), Ethan Laird (Manchester United), Rhys Wiliams (Liverpool), Edmond-Paris Maghoma (Tottenham Hotspur), Luis Binks (Tottenham Hotspur)

    Midfielders: Luke Thomas (Leicester City), James Garner (Manchester United), Clinton Mola (Chelsea), Tommy Doyle (Manchester City), Curtis Jones (Liverpool)

    Forwards: Bobby Duncan (Liverpool), Anthony Gordon (Everton), Tyreece John-Jules (Arsenal), Folarin Balogun (Arsenal), Xavier Amaechi (Arsenal)
     
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