Jimmy Conrad exposes Michael Bradley

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by #1 Feilhaber and Adu, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Where's the downvote button :(
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is only one non-insane answer.

    Who the hell knows?
     
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  3. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's probably saner to say "sane" than to run with "non-insane"... ;)
     
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  4. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    I think he was referring to the "middle class" of sanity. I know that I am not considered rich by many but I am not poor either. I have a feeling most view my level of sanity in the same way.
     
  5. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    #305 Cannons, Nov 17, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2018
    I always felt Bradley was responsible for making sure Lee Nguyen never got a fair shot. Every time the two were on the field together, he froze Lee out, took over his position and made Lee look bad. Lee still is a very good possession #10 and still could contribute if given a chance.

    That being said... its time for Bradley and Jozy to retire from international soccer. Their time is over. The next generation needs to develop now and add to them, a good number of the U20s. They are also very good
     
  6. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Mike also tried to do that to Pulisic in the Panama away game we tied 1-1.

    Puli was supposed to roam inside from the right, but time and again Mike was just there demanding the ball from him, so in the end he was taking over the CM and AM roles. At some point Puli just took his chances and ignored him.

    Happy days.
     
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  7. zhe fulano

    zhe fulano Member

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Jan 31, 2010
    Florida Keys, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've been following this thread for months, as I thought many interesting positions were advanced. Three points:

    (1) As noted, MB's resumé is one matched by no one else in the USMNT player pool. Some obviously think his ego is in the same category. In my estimation, Berhalter has handled this touchy situation well by bringing Bradley onto the team but not making him captain. It recognizes that MB has something to offer, but also sends a pretty clear message that MB is no longer top dog. I suspect we'll see more and more of MB as a second half sub in the 2022 cycle.

    (2) As for Chad Marshall, my memory is still tormented by thoughts of our U.S. B-team playing in the Gold Cup final and getting toasted for five goals by Mexico in the second half. He's a competent defender at MLS level. By implication, however, 5 USMNT coaches - Bradley, Klinsmann, Arena, Sarachan and Berhalter - concurred that he is not a national team caliber player.

    (3) As for Klinsmann's ego, it ultimately was his undoing. We did better than expected in the 2014 World Cup, but our midfield creativity was at times non-existent and he left our best midfielder off the squad. It was downhill from there. In the end, Klinsmann's ultimate accomplishments as USMNT coach never equaled Arena's 2002 World Cup advance or Bradley's 2009 Confederations Cup final. Landon on the other hand is a USMNT legend.
     
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  8. SJTillIDie

    SJTillIDie Member+

    Aug 23, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't watch it but I am reading lots of negatives about Bradley's performance in TFC's 4-0 debacle vs Independiente. Reminiscent of USA's catastrophe in Trinidad.
     
  9. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I think it was Klinsmann. I never could figure out why Klinsmann didn't rate Lee. Any suggestions appreciated.

    p.s. I suspect putting Lee at the 10 would move Bradley back to the 6 and Klinsmann knew Bradley couldn't play there (see Brazil u23's vs. USA Klinsmann selection in Maryland).
     
  10. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yet Bradley still gets call ups for the national team.
     
  11. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He jogged beautifully. All game. The 'team leader' led by example and to me the last 2 goals were on him in large part. Hope Berhalter was watching closely. I could care less about Toronto but that cancer isn't what I want to see with the USMNT.
     
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  12. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    You have two young and talented midfielders playing/starting in the BL, there should be no valid reasons to start Bradley over them.
     
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  13. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely agree but I am hesitant to be too optimistic just yet. Self preservation and all.
     
  14. WrmBrnr

    WrmBrnr Member+

    Apr 12, 2001
    San Carlos
    Was he called up for the national team after this game? Who else was called up for this camp and when is this camp?

    FWIW, I agree with @smokarz
     
  15. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    yeah they lost because he didn't sprint enough lol

    do people really not understand the game here or what.
     
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  16. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    One of the reasons we need Trapp as our 6 is to have an impartial and virtuous distributor of the ball. the Bradley's are always going to be about the Bradley's.
     
  17. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They lost because the team played like crap, and the team leader of that crap was Mikey. As for that last question, "A New Fan", it is certainly wise to seek to know thyself.
     
  18. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Adams is the 6 and Mckennie is the 8. GB has already made this clear.
     
  19. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    It takes a lot in a negative way to accept the arm-band and block future generations from getting a shot, after you were handed the team by your blood relative, 12 years ago.
     
  20. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #320 adam tash, Jun 19, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2019
    i'm sure the 6 million dollars or so he gets every season to do so makes it more palatable.....

    for someone in that tax bracket...doing whatever you gotta do, saying whatever you gotta say to keep that gravy train rolling is a piece of cake....

    the nightmare will get worse when he is named USMNT manager in the future...I'd put the odds at 90% of that happening...he is too cunning/opportunistic/diabolical to not go for that role(and have a great chance of getting it), imo.....

    hopefully he doesnt have a son who plays soccer
     
  21. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This post didn’t age well.
     
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  22. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    The animosity towards Bradley as a person (vs as a player and leader) is over the top.

    He’s a formerly good player who works hard but is fighting Father Time and injuries. The fact that he believes in himself is part of what made him a major league player at his peak.

    The list of athletes who know when it’s time to step down is far smaller than the opposite.

    Blame the coaches for chooses a subpar and aging option at the beginning of a cycle but there’s no need to character assassinate.
     
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  23. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    When soccer is no longer the reason for his continued selection and in many cases was never the sole reason, then there is really no ground to go to.

    It seems USMNT ticket sales are in steep decline. The product on the field is more plain vanilla than ever. Whereas MLS has turned almost exclusively to latin players to find better value and soccer at key positions, the USMNT has searched far and wide to avoid them.

    A second missed world cup and continued loss of core supporters might force change, but I doubt it as long as MLS margins move upward.
     
  24. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Blame the coaches and USSF then not the player.
     
  25. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    do you wanna wager that Michael Bradley will never be USMNT manager?
     

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