Official 2019 Nadeshiko Japan Thread [R] - なでしこジャパン(英語スレッド)

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  1. #5nadeshikofan

    #5nadeshikofan Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Plymouth, Michigan, USA
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    1. FC Köln plays in the second Division and is currently 6th place.
    The second womens team already has two Japanese players:
    Mizuho Kato (13.12.1992) since 2015 from Osaka University and
    Saori Shimokawa (09.12.1990) since 2017 from Chifure AS Elfen Saitama. Yuka Hirano is not (yet) mentioned....
     
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  2. #5nadeshikofan

    #5nadeshikofan Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Plymouth, Michigan, USA
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Just to clarify: 1.FC has two female teams. The first plays in second division, second in a lower league (Regional League West)
     
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  3. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
  4. HS10Legend

    HS10Legend Member

    Mar 16, 2017
    Germany
    Club:
    NTV Beleza
    This team will play the AFC U17 Womens Championship this year,
    but actually some of the best Beleza players are missing:
    Hijikata, Oyama, Kinoshita (currently with the u19), Fujino and
    Kumagai (by the way, is there any relationship with captain Saki Kumagai?) Hopefully they will join the team later on ...
     
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  5. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    I thought the same.
    Possibly because this generation may have lots of talents (If so, I'm happy :p), Ohyama and Hijikata might be considered as the next U17 members.
     
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  6. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    I don't know, but I doubt it for no reason.:p
     
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  7. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
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  8. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Nadeshiko Japan members for SheBelieves Cup:

    GK: Yamane, Ikeda, Yamashita
    DF: Sameshima, Ariyoshi, Kumagai, Miyake, Shimizu, Ohga, Ichise, Miyagawa, Minami
    MF: Sakaguchi, Utsugi, Nakajima, Sakaguchi, Matsubara, Hasegawa, Sugita, Miura
    FW: Yokoyama, Momiki, Ikejiri, Kobayashi, Endo

    Miyake and Sakaguchi Mizu are only in domestic camp because of their conditions.
     
  9. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I can't further comment, because I am going out to work, but I am impressed: I thought we were going to deploy our best 11 for SheBelievesCup, but there are some missing pieces (most notably in the front line: Iwabuchi, Mina Tanaka...) and some unexpected names that obviously Takakura wants to try out, even if she already saw some of them in recent camps (Risako Oga, Miyagawa, Matsubara, Ikejiri (!), Kobayashi (!), Endo (!!)).

    I never was so much impressed by Miura, when she played in NT, but Takakura insists, so she has to see something (and she could even take her team-mate Rin Sumida's place in the roster).

    I am sad that Mizuho Sakaguchi's "conditions" are still considered sub-optimal. :( I hope she fully recovers for WWC.

    The other unexpected thing, in my eyes, is Erina Yamane's comeback. I thought she wasn't in Takakura's picture anymore, but of course Takakura wants to give another look at her and give her a chance. Can it be a factor that USA can suffer "big" GK? :cautious:
     
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  10. HS10Legend

    HS10Legend Member

    Mar 16, 2017
    Germany
    Club:
    NTV Beleza
    Players missing: Hirao, Nagano, Miyazawa, Iwabuchi, Tanaka, Sugasawa

    Players added from the A-team training camp: Ohga, Ikejiri, Kobayashi

    Players added from the B-team training camp: Miyagawa, Matsubara

    Players, without a game appearance so far: Minami, Endo

    Suprising call up: Yamane

    I agree, it looks an experimental squad once again. It guess, we have to wait
    until the World Cup to see, what Takakura really has in mind and how her
    game plan will look like.

    Miura's first appearance for Nadeshiko Japan was at last years Tournament of Nations. Our Team lost all 3 matches back then, but i thought we made a huge step in the right direction in terms of team progression and cohesiveness. And
    i believe that Miura played an important role in that matter. After that she had an brilliant game against Norway, where she looked like a world class player to me, despite her young age. She might be overlooked at times, because she has not the physical strength and stature of Utsugi, Sumida or Sugita, but in terms of football IQ, i believe, she is currently the second best central midfielder of the team behind Sakaguchi Mizuho.

    By the way, this is my personal ranking of the most talented central midfielders of the team right now: Sakaguchi Mizuho, Miura, Nagano, Fukuta and Hayashi.
    So, i would expect that 3 or 4 out of this list, should be selected for the World Cup.
     
  11. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    My idea, before seeing this roster, was that the about 4 months leading to WWC would have been used mostly to refine team chemistry and tactics and that actually finalizing the roster would have just needed three or four fringe-decisions.

    It looks like Takakura wants to try out many different players instead and that she wants to give chances to a lot of players; theoretically it makes sense: you can't integrate a player in a team in just a few weeks, so you have to give a try to anyone who can have even a remote chance to make the roster. You actually will bring just 2-3 players at max in France, out of the dozens you tried, but those 2-3 who will peak at the right moment to be considered for the roster will anyway have experience with the team.

    I anyway would have liked that most of the virtual "starters" could get a chance to clash vs the strongest teams in the women's game. It's true that we'll have other important friendly games leading to WWC (vs Germany, vs France...), but this mini-tournament vs USA, England and Brazil looked like a good opportunity to test how we can approach such teams in our best conditions.
    Unless Takakura actually wants to play a "hiding game" and is trying to keep her cards close to the vest: maybe it's not a coincidence that most of the missing players are FWs? Maybe Takakura doesn't want to give away our offensive strategies too soon? Maybe she even wants opponent teams to grow a sense of overconfidence from playing vs an experimental Japan (basically the way she used ToN 2018 as just a training tool, while Australia saw a very different team when it really counted, at Asian Cup)? :cautious:
     
  12. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yuki Nagasato included in the Aussie-W-League Best XI team:

     
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  13. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    She Believes Cup squad....
    Win,win situation for Takakura san.
    If we lose all three games and get zero points it will be because we were trying out an 'experimental' side.
    If we get four points for example she will be able to claim a good result with an 'experimental' side.
    Personally in view of the fact that WWC is only four months away I would like to have seen what she considers her strongest team compete in at least one of the She Believes games.
     
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  14. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    That's also my point of view.

    Out of curiosity, @Manchester Nadeshiko: are you going to Algarve Cup, since you had planned in advance to go, before knowing Japan wasn't going to take part, or did you manage to cancel the trip without losing too much money?
     
  15. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    Cancelled and lost money.....Would have gone if there had been more representation from Asia but only the Steel Roses
     
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  16. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Yes! The overconfidence is finally spreading :D

    This is what 23 of the 24 nations can look forward to at the World Cup, according to AssetMacro overconfidence chart:

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  17. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well, if some of the 23 teams that won't actually win the cup will have anyway reached some kind of overachievement (Jamaica in quarters, anyone?) they could maybe skip the actual "despair phase". :giggle:
     
  18. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    While Aussie W-League season just ended, with no Japanese player in the grand final (for records, Sydney beat Perth by 4-2), European Leagues resumed after the winter break (some didn't actually have a break at all).

    - Division 1 Féminine: nothing new in the last weeks, for what concerns the league itself. OL and PSG keep winning their respective games (OL actually by "just" 1-0 last Saturday vs Lille) and leading the rankings. PSG are ahead of OL at this moment, but it's because OL has a game in hand to them. Anyway, the league looks more open that it have ever been in the latest years.
    The real news are about Coupe de France: a pair weeks ago, OL and PSG did clash early, in the quarters instead of in the final, and OL has beaten PSG by 1-0 in a match that had a nightmare refereeing and quite rough physical game by both parts (the score looked anyway fair).

    - Frauen Bundesliga: Borussia Mönchengladbach keep losing every game that's thrown to them, yesterday it was an home loss by 1-4 vs Sand; but the big news are that Keiko Kodama is back on the pitch after her longtime injury!!! You can see in this report of the game that she was on the pitch and that she played for 66' minutes. About at the same minute (65') Hikaru Naomoto was being subbed in instead, in the game easily won by her Freiburg SC vs Bayer Leverkusen by 6-0. No goals by Hikaru, her team keeps standing in 6th position in the chart. :coffee:

    - Liga Femenina: no game actually played this last week-end (not sure why), but on Valentine's Day, the 14th, Real Betis tied a game by 2-2 vs Athletic Bilbao and they are now standing in 4th position (in a league of 16 clubs!). New/old NT member Erina Yamane was on the pitch. The day before, Albacete had beaten Rayo Vallecano by 2-1, putting themselves in 10th position: the first goal, that had tied the initial advantage by the host team, had been scored by our Tomo Matsukawa. :)

    Lastly: still no schedule available for upcoming 2019 NWSL season, but there are vague news that Sky Blue FC (where Kawasumi should play) are doing something to get better facilities and better general organization (you know, the one that had made most players, including some young prospects, leave the club). We're going to see how the situation develops. Kawasumi hasn't been called for SheBelieves Cup, so maybe she can plan what to do and if actually setting to play in New Jersey.
     
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  19. pierre bezukhov

    pierre bezukhov Member+

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    So today I met former INAC and Jef United defender/midfielder Midori Isokane. I did not get a photo with her, because I was working. But she was very cool and friendly.

    I spoke to her for about twenty minutes about playing in the Nadeshiko League and the current state of women's football in Japan and Nadeshiko.

    She said that at INAC she only had to play football, so all they did was train and play. But at JEF she had to train and also work in the office. They would do training after work and get a day off from work after every game. She said it was very tough doing both. But she said she loved playing football.

    The best player she ever played with was Ji So-Yun. She said she was just so fast and technically brilliant.

    I asked her what she thought of Nadeshiko's obsession with 4-4-2 and she said she did not like it and thought that a 3 woman midfield would be much better.

    I wanted to talk to her more, but I was working and technically so was she. She was really surprised that I followed the Nadeshiko League, but was really happy.

    Anyway, that was my exciting meeting for the day. It was completely random.
     
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  20. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Funny random fact about Midori Isokane: we had found, way back in 2012, that early even goofier versions of Google Translator from those times had her name changed into "Green Abalone Scraper"! :ROFLMAO:

    I would really like to get the chance to randomly meet Nadeshiko players while at work! :) Great story, @pierre bezukhov.

    Isokane was a good central defender and she was occasionaly scoring nice headers from CK. I assume she now left football, didn't she?
     
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  21. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member+

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Today's news:

    Ikeda Sakiko and Yamashita Ayaka are not going to US because of injury and bad condition respectively.
    Takenaka Rei and Saito Ayaka join the team.
     
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  22. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    Thanks for sharing the experience....very insightfull
     
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  23. pierre bezukhov

    pierre bezukhov Member+

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    She is now a teacher at Fukuoka Commercial Girl's High School. She is the school's soccer coach. She said they were not very good, and the girls were mostly beginners, but she got a lot of pleasure from watching them improve.

    I asked if she wanted to coach at a higher level and she said a little bit if the chance came up. To be honest if she stays as working as a teacher she will get paid a lot more.

    I spoke to her mostly in Japanese, but she could speak a little bit of English.
     
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  24. And G

    And G Member+

    Jan 31, 2010
    Club:
    Okayama Yunogo Belle
    My kind of girl.
     
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  25. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #175 Lechus7, Feb 20, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2019
    From INAC pre-season camp in Okinawa:

    (both matches set for one half only)

    vs. Vicsale Okinawa FC


    vs. Gyeongju Korea Hydro & Nuclear Power FC


    (African duo forwards in Korean team are Ivory Coast NT players: Josee Nahi and Ines Tia)
     

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