Saved the Crew

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  1. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only issue would be getting the Clippers, Crew, and a potential Arena Football team at Nationwide to coordinate their roadtrips at the same time to clear the way for the festival.
     
  2. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is negative thinking on my part, but I kinda hope we didn't get to 10K in 2016, since while we did break a 17K average that year, for only the 5th time in club history and first time since 2002, we need to do better this year. And if 10K wasn't enough to get us into the 18K average range, I wonder what would be; 11K, 12K?

    Anyway, it's going to be a helluva year. I can't wait to see what kind of crowd we have on March 2. As I've said (and is obvious, I'm sure), I'm a cynical asshole, but even I can admit that there's a serious and legitimate buzz about this club now, and the new ownership hasn't even had a chance to engage the community yet. That buzz is coming from pent-up demand, and the amazing #STC work over the past year+.
     
  3. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Certainly. Wouldn't be easy at all. And it would also relate to how big en event we're talking about; how many facilities need to be involved. I mean, maybe nationwide isn't necessary if you have Crew Stadium, Huntington park and the LC Pavilion.

    On a related note, however, I recall reading recently about the Arena District - one of those stories about its national reputation - and about how the District and city dealt with needing to coordinate scheduling at Nationwide and the Schott. Initially, there was no coordination, and it was a mess. But now, scheduling for both facilities is done by the same central office.
     
  4. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I never have to go to another MLS shperdraft it'll be too soon.

    But Chicago - man , the restaurants alone are worth the trip.

    But the rumor is that this may indeed be the last, and we may have seen the last combine as well. The expense, particularly for the combine where each player and coach gets a swanky room plus airfare and meals is ridiculous and most teams think they could hire at least one more scout with that money.

    Then each team flies eight people to Chicavo, plus rooms and meals, and the league brings in 50 people, rents the hall, etc etc.

    The cost has become unsustainable for an event that most people agree is marginally useful at best

    They're saying if this isn't the last ots.pretty close.
     
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  5. jack sticker

    jack sticker Red Card

    Rangers
    United States
    Jun 5, 2018
    Chicago sucks but not as much as cinnci.
     
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  6. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think not having a draft may hurt MLS' credibility with American sports fans (not American enough).
     
  7. JB-CBUS221

    JB-CBUS221 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Jul 19, 2018
    Columbus, Ohio
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am really skeptical they got to 10k in 2016. In part because nothing got announced and they made no comments about it at all. In part because while average attendance did increase it wasn't a significant shift. Mostly I am skeptical though because none of the ancillary data would suggest that they did, including comments they later made.

    Also going back and looking at comments from the FO under PSV over the last five years...holy crap.
     
  8. jack sticker

    jack sticker Red Card

    Rangers
    United States
    Jun 5, 2018
    I just got to say it looks like I am not the only one.


    Amazon CEO Bezos reportedly didn't have a prenup, dating L.A. TV anchor-helicopter pilot
     
  9. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    This is a waste of Swenson's.
     
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  10. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, as you say, I think there are several factors that could change the #STH to average attendance ratio this time.

    1. Again, I do not think we hit 10k in 2016. Still, we had 9k other years and were still at 17k plus. That is STH + 8k. 10k STH = 18k+ under that formula.

    2. More buzz this time.
    3. Better ownership this time.
    4. More engaged corporate partners & business community this time.
    5. More/better news coverage.
    6. Actual marketing & community engagement this time.

    All these can lead to better STH numbers, better walk-up numbers, and more corporate tickets sold. I am still shooting for 18,950 and/or 17,696.

    We can afford a couple 14k-15k games if the rest are pushing sellouts.

    Midweeks are 4/24 v DC (Rooney) & 5/8 v Galaxy (Ibra + GBS/Sigi stuff?). With good promotions we should be able to limit the damage there.
     
  11. shoplifter

    shoplifter Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And yet having it hurts the credibility of the league with actual soccer fans that know better
     
  12. BigStern

    BigStern Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 2, 2018
    Columbus by way of Lima
    I don't think this means as much for MLS, considering the draft is being held on a Friday afternoon/undisclosed conference call. I would actually argue that MLS is doing themselves a disservice in the eyes of those potential american fans by having this laughingstock.
     
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  13. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just curious, but what do you think your on-topic / off-topic posting ratio is?
     
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  14. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    1:10, at least.

    Why do you ask?
     
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  15. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccer needs to adapt to America, not the other way around. Otherwise, if the HUAC is ever reconvened, soccer is the first thing to get banned.
     
  16. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hi Crew fans,
    thanks for your suggestions. My assigned ticket rep, Rassan Bouyer, called me, and so I just now made a deposit on 2 lower sideline seats in a 4-9 game package. They are still working on seat assignments, so I will get an email next week or so after which I will be able to go online, pick my game days. By then he expects to have the procedure for me to donate my tickets. It sounds like it should be easy to do.

    I'm hoping to go to the CIN or TFC game. He says they will be holding aside sections for STHs, so I don't need to worry about getting the dates that I need. Hope that's true!

    Anyway, the rep said there a lot of people from around the world buying tickets as support, e.g. an LA fan bought a full season package.
     
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  17. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You ********ing rock, dude.

    You better let us all know when you're in town. Beers or sodas or whatever are on us.
     
  18. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    When the HUAC returns, it's coming from the other side. First thing to get banned is George Washington.
     
  19. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, it's you Crew fans who really rock. So much positivity and resilience.
    We San Jose fans could never muster the local and WW support that you guys did.
    What Crew fans did and accomplished was phenomenal.
     
  20. Belgrano

    Belgrano Member

    Mar 5, 2014
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    and then christmas!

    :rolleyes:
     
  21. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hurting it even further is that neither ESPN or Fox is even carrying the thing. It's been one or the other, whoever held that season's rights, for years. No more.

    Now it's true that they'd only go an hour on the channel before switching to streaming someplace but it made it feel sort of important. Live! From Wherever! The MLS Superdraft! On actual TV!!!

    No more. Now it's on MLS.com and Twitter. And instead of Rob Stone and Alexi F*ckface broadcasting from a studio mockup in the middle of the floor, nowit's:

    MLSsoccer.com's team of Andrew Wiebe, Bobby Warshaw and David Gass will be joined in the studio in New York by ESPN's Taylor Twellman,

    The commentators won't even be in the same city.

    Nothing screams "irrelevance" quite like hosting your "experts" broadcast from 2000 miles away.

    But wait, as they say in TV peddling; there's more:

    Calen Carr, Sam Stejskal and Susannah Collins will be on-site in Chicago, bringing you all of the action.

    Be still my heart! 3 lightweights you've never heard of who do MLS.com podcasts will be "ON-SITE".

    And what will they be doing? Why they'll be "BRINGING YOU ALL THE ACTION!" as player after player who you have never heard of parades across the stage, shakes Don's hand, says a few words and then marches off into permanent obscurity.

    Kill this thing before it embarrasses again.
     
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  22. JB-CBUS221

    JB-CBUS221 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Jul 19, 2018
    Columbus, Ohio
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is awesome man! Thanks for the support and @chr1st is right, when you're in town we all owe you a round at the stadium.
     
  23. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they wanted to have the commentators on-site, there's an easy way to do it. Hold it in the studio in New York instead of at the coaches' convention. That's what MLB does with its first round (granted, it's televised on MLB Network instead of twitter).

    On another MLB Draft-related note, why doesn't MLS stream the conference call portion (like MLB does)? I can't be the only person for whom that's appointment viewing.
     
  24. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Christmas has too much money backing it. Old George just has to be replaced on a bill.
     
  25. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More likely Andy Jackson on the $20 (which almost happened).

    They were thinking of dumping Hamilton as well, but Broadway changed all of that. He's now a folk hero.
     
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