As far as Highbury is concerned, the two historic stands could not be demolished and were incorporated into the housing development: https://www.firstport.co.uk/what-we-do/developments/development-discoveries-highbury-stadium-square
Yes that's one good thing that you can say about Europeans, that throughout their age of empires they put native people's rights and heritage above everything else The fact that the FA did nothing to preserve the Twin Towers is a bit disappointing.
Can you pick out some demolished US that were of cultural value? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_closed_stadiums_by_capacity?wprov=sfla1 The old Yankee Stadium had a better atmosphere than the new one but the seats were smaller so people were crammed together. The replacement drew on a lot of the history of the first, including the field dimensions and the placement of Monument Park, and even restored some of the features of the original stadium that had been removed or destroyed when the old stadium was modernized in the 1970s. The old Giants' Stadium was a concrete shithole as were many of the stadiums built in the 1960s and 1970s. The Oakland Colosseum won't be missed when it's gone but there was something unique about the wooden benches.
That I agree with. Yanks/Trumpians are Europeans descend by a overwhelming majority, so it's continuation of a bad habit. But the point is that this pipeline happens in this time, not a hundred years ago.
The pipeline is designed to go around native American lands rather than cross them, so I guess they paid some attention to indigenous rights. I think we need to get more off-topic.
I feel you've left out a lot of variables that would help determine the likelihood of fisticuffs: 1. Did this debate take place on a race day? 2. Is the pub a freehouse or a brewery pub? 3. How old is the oldest Pukka Pie in the freezer? 4. How old is the newest? 5. Was the carpet specifically chosen to mask beer vomit and/or blood stains? 6. Is it a relatively warm, sunny day?
We like to think of it as relegating old buildings into non-existence. That way it's like winning a trophy if some old dump makes it for another year.
He makes me want to buy vegan sausage rolls. Apparently there's a movie on Netflix about the effects of watching his TV shows. "Bird Box" or something.
So it's draft day today folks, y'all excited?? Philadelphia sold their 5 draft selections to Fussball Cincinnati for $150,000, stating that the gap between college soccer and MLS was now too great for them to even bother. The interesting draft picks will be the Generation Adidas players, who get scholarships in return for quitting college soccer early, and immigrants, for whom soccer is a way of winning the right to live and work here. And there's a Red Bulls home-grown player in there. I'm not sure how that works.
Made me realize how little I know about the draft after looking up some info. I thought Morris was the only notable draft player I could think of in recent years and it turns out he wasn't even a part of it. Seems a bit like a throwback to a different time in the age of Atlanta United. Alongside New England's original logo in a sea of updated crests.
These days most of the best American players in college soccer are academy products -- even the ones from outside MLS cities, because of the increasing trend toward nationwide recruiting. The best of these players are siphoned off before the draft through Homegrown contracts. What this means: most of the American players in the draft pool have already been passed over by a MLS team that kept tabs on them for four years. For the most part, if they were top prospects, they wouldn't be available in the draft. This is both the reason drafted players have had less and less impact over the years and the reason the early draft picks have been increasingly foreign players.
Damned skippy "I flat out stated it point blank." After you kept pushing and pushing and pushing... You consistently belittle and ridicule like nobody's business. I said what I said, I meant it, and I do not regret saying it. You're a known quantity: an obnoxious anti-Pro/Rel troll who has no place in any serious discussion about America moving towards a system of Pro/Rel... a move that would benefit places like San Antonio and Tampa and many others, btw.
Whichever pub where Blades fans hang out. On second thought, Crazy Joe would probably just be kidnapped and then summarily dropped off at another pub filled with Wednesday fans. What they do after that I wouldn't venture to say....
I'm still stunned that there is no place for the MAJORITY of American fans who want to see ProRel in this country to discuss it on Bigsoccer without being trolled endlessly by obnoxious anti-ProRel zealots. Is this a hill you want to die on? Is it a hill the Bigsoccer forum wants to die on? How many fans do you need to run off this forum before any of you people ever get it? There are some very vibrant conversations happening about how, when, why, where Pro/Rel should happen in this country. None of those conversations happen on Bigsoccer. Instead, we get endless status-quo obsessed anti-ProRel rabbit hole arguments against it ever happening by the scant twelve percent who may actually think Pro/Rel is outdated, a tiny minority of American soccer fandom who have ZERO INTEREST in the concept of ProRel. I can put people on IGNORE, but clearly the best strategy for posting in favor of ProRel on Bigsoccer is to inspire anti-ProRel zealots to put me on IGNORE. On twitter, you can mute or block obnoxious anti-ProRel twitter trolls like RealSnarkLake and AlamoCityFC and have an actual reasonably thoughtful discussion. You've said before that you think ProRel is nothing more than a gimmick. It's not. The lack of an open system affects my club and many many others in this country. You'd be the first person banned from the discussion if I were moderator. The same thing you did to me in the MLS subforum. The next two would be Crazy Joe and Hail to the King, who are KNOWN ANTI-PRO REL TROLLS on twitter. The subject of Promotion/Relegation in a subforum in Soccer in the USA would be and should be treated as a topic of shared interest, not one of shared derision. Eighteen years I spent on Bigsoccer thinking it represented a reasonably good cross section of American soccer fans. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case for several years now. I don't want a major league/minor league setup in American pro soccer. The only people who seem to want that for our future are a buncha assholes on Bigsoccer and some folks from "major league" cities who think any market with less than a million in metro area population is a place for an MLS version of a "farm club." I'm betting by Page 1000 of this thread we'll still have the same old rabbit hole arguments against the idea.... going round and round in the same circles.... Have a nice 2019.
This thread has included several constructive ideas on how pro-rel could work. You just choose to ignore them or dismiss them out of hand if they don't involve Tulsa Athletic getting to the top-flight. You dismiss any ideas that could happen within the current structure i.e. anything that involves MLS or USL, because of your animosity towards those organisations and yet you also dismiss the bottom up approach, let's say implementing it on the leagues whose business models you approve of. After your last series of posts there was a lag of 3 or 4 days before an anti pro/rel "troll" responded. In that time there were a number of posts asking for clarification of your proposals, or ideas on how you would address a number of hurdles to which you didn't respond. So: How would you go about implementing promotion and relegation in the US? Would you protect existing MLS and USL owners' investments, and if so how?
It's sad. Really sad. He keeps whining that BigSoccer isn't the echo chamber he wants it to be because he doesn't understand the purpose of a message board.