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  1. falvo

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    San Jose & Florence
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  2. La Magica

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    Of course it was extensive research. How else would you conclude such perils of wisdom like fats make you fat thats why they're called fat, unused carbs run through your system and sugar is not a problem. The real science is in his favour duh. Is there a job for a nutritionist in a commie country? Maybe he can be employed as one and he can indirectly kill them off.
     
  3. totti fan

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    Thought you said you were done. Where did I say that about sugar?
     
  4. La Magica

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  5. JCNapoli17

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    what’s crazy is there’s a lot of testosterone boosting plants you can eat. That fool only drinks Soylent though.
     
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  6. Calcio Pauly

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    Jun 17, 2012
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    Feminists don't want to boost testosterone.

    Sal roasts you again.

    Wondering out loud if JC's friend moved to Australia?
     
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  7. Calcio Pauly

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    #14532 Calcio Pauly, Jan 6, 2019
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    That is a dumb statement. Too much sugar in the blood for whatever reason will cause insulin to be released. This isn't even up for debate. Insulin doesn't have an algorithm that differentiates as to why too much sugar is in the blood, it just goes to work. That belief you present above is just another indication that you fall prey to extremist ideas and throw out any fact that doesn't comply with your belief. That's what zealots do. This is something that has been pointed out to you for many years. If I were you, I'd seriously ask myself why I had a need to go against facts that discredit my position. If it's not to play devil's advocate in a forum where you know others will correct you, thereby doing work for you (one of the aspects that attracts you to the extreme left; others doing things for you and you getting stuff for free), then you're just doing it because you want to appear as an out of the box thinker somehow believing that it makes you look intelligent.

    I have news for you.

    It doesn't


    keep on running jr.
     
  8. Calcio Pauly

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    we need more people like this combatting the disease being shoved down our throats on a daily basis.
     
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  9. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    So are you saying that insulin is only released when there is too much sugar in the blood? Because that statement is factually incorrect. Unless by sugar you mean glucose and by too much you mean any.

    Tell me, what role does the pancreas play?
     
  10. Calcio Pauly

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    If that's what you think I said; you're dumb.
    If that's how you intend to twist it; you're manipulative and trying (again) to do what you like to accuse others of doing; creating a straw man to battle

    Both are true in my view.

    And you should know by now, that cherry picking comments, reinterpreting them to attempt to pigeon hole me into a stupid game like that isn't going to work.

    Go back and defend the rest of your views I shattered, you weasel.
    Present arguments that defend your position, or ignore it and prove that you're insecure about your position.

    Good luck with your rice cakes.
     
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  11. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    CP, should flax seeds be avoided?

    First I hear they're good, like a superfood, now I read they are 3x worse than soy for mimicking estrogen.

    Any insights?
     
  12. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    LOL look at how defensive you get when I ask you a question. I'm not insisting that is what you said, I'm simply asking you a question.

    This is what you said.
    Too much sugar in the blood for whatever reason will cause insulin to be released. This isn't even up for debate.

    This statement is false.

    And I asked you do you mean what it explicitly says because I think you know better. Take a deep breath.
     
  13. totti fan

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    estrogen (def): any of a group of steroid hormones which promote the development and maintenance of female characteristics of the body

    Where do you think you are more likely to ingest estrogen from: a lactating female cow or a seed?
     
  14. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    I gave up dairy 4 years ago.

    Are you saying dairy increases estrogen levels?
     
  15. Calcio Pauly

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    You're saying that insulin is not released by beta cells of the pancreas in response to sugar in the blood?

    How gullible and misinformed are you?

    Here's a simple visual...

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    Present scientific data not interviews from What the Health that prove this wrong. They don't even contend it in that film that you are obviously relying on for your "facts". They don't deny it. They're saying that too much fatty acid in the blood will impair the uptake of glucose into cells and they're partially right because that is the transport mechanism.

    So again, too much of anything is not great. Duh. It's not complicated.

    So go on...Do what you demand of others. Cite a study and prove it's false that insulin is not secreted in the presence of too much blood sugar.

    You won't.

    While you're at it, when are you going to stop running from the other points I made? Or are you overindulging in rice cakes with chicken shit sprinkled on it?

    You yourself cry to others (Falc, Indestructible, Falc, etc) when they won't dance to your tune, but it's ok when you run from facts that disprove your theory.

    Keep running Forest.
     
  16. totti fan

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    yes it does. What sort of milk do you drink?
     
  17. Deleted User x

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    Almond.
     
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  18. totti fan

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    No

    I didn't say that and you know it. You're being dishonest now.
     
  19. Deleted User x

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    Make no mistake. Drinking dairy milk growing up is essential. For me personally it was starting to do harm later in life.
     
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  20. totti fan

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    There are a lot of people who have never consumed dairy.

    And if its bad for you now it was probably bad for you then. We can get away with lots of bad habits when we're younger.
     
  21. Calcio Pauly

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    #14546 Calcio Pauly, Jan 6, 2019
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    I'll ask my wife :) I'm not actually a nutritionist, but my wife is. We use cod liver oil in winter, and don't worry too much in summer. Cold pressed virgin olive oil is our preference too. No hemp oil, or flax at the moment.

    I've maintained 190lbs at 6'1 for the last 12 years. While doing my masters I bumped up to 200, mostly overeating junk, lots of sugar and caffeine. My body fat % is prefectly within normal. I cycle 20miles, 3x weekly and play the beautiful game 2x weekly with other over 40's and do my own HIIT in my home gym. My blood work is within normal. I don't take a lot of supplements or protein powders. I have my tiramisu (jealous Totti fan? ;) ) and eat a plate of pasta and have some wine within moderation. I don't gobble down too much meat. I eat a lot of vegetables and have fruits, though I limit fruit in the winter months because I try to eat seasonal whenever possible and it's clear that nature intended us to eat fruits grown in season depending on your climate. Hint, that means in the northern hemisphere when fruit isn't grown in the winter months, it's probably not mean to be eaten. I have my own theory about that, that has no science behind it, that sugars (even natural ones) are metabolized better in the presence of true Vitamin D. There are some emerging studies on guy biome that support this. Therefore, We supplement with cod liver oil in the winter for non synthetic Vitamin D. All of this has been a result of my wifes efforts, who regained her natural shape within 6 months of birthing, and breast fed all my children naturally, in other words no soy based formula. We are not overrun with flu's during the season. Lot's of bone broths in the winter (high in good fats Totti fan).

    Also, science has proven without doubt that simple refined sugars can limit your immune response by 7 hours.

    When do we consume most of that garbage? Halloween and Chistmas. When are we sick more.
    Correlation doesn't always = Causation, but I think in this observation it's pretty obvious.

    Anyway, I guess you can call it a mediterranean approach, but there are so many some even bordering on Keto.

    I did go Keto to drop from 200 to 190 quickly enough and was energized, slept better, regulated hormonally and the like, but that's also probably because I came from a higher carb, and more refined garbage, approach prior. I think it's a good way to reset your baselines and I'm leaning also towards fasting doing the same (see Jason Fung's approach to curing diabetes that Magica posted). I also think that eating within a 9-10 hour window of waking is best for your health and this is the most natural intermittent type of fast you can implement.

    Through this holiday CHRISTmas season ;) I ate more junk, how can you not? And drank more. It took a few days of downtime; netflix and playing with kids (me on couch telling them to stop throwing stuff at the wall) to recover.

    That's what happens after 40, but I think I'm doing fairly well with a balanced approach, and that is why I criticize extreme approaches like only fruit, or only meat.

    You have to figure out what works for you. I like this guys work https://dadamo.com/txt/index.pl?0000
    Over 1000 research articles went into his theory. I'm an O, and when I stick to the O type diet, I function best. It's not vegan, or strictly keto either.

    AB's are the ones that would likely be ok and do well with Veganism.

    The only thing to ask yourself is why they all need bars and protein supplements to do even moderate exercises and consume copious amounts for extreme sport. They do, all of them.

    If it was how we were meant to eat, ask yourself why vegan protein powder does not grow on trees for people to pick off like Totti fan suggests of fruits being our natural food source does?
     
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  22. totti fan

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  23. Calcio Pauly

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    #14548 Calcio Pauly, Jan 6, 2019
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    You should read what you put up. It says in it:

    "No studies that showed the health effects of ABO blood type diets were identified."

    In other words they didn't find a study that actually did this. They had a selection criteria and the only study they looked at, itself, had nothing to do with blood types.

    Instead it studied
    "LDL-cholesterol responses of different MNS blood types to a low-fat diet"

    and based on that they suggest more studies need to be done

    D'Adamo concurs with that. They concluded there was insufficient evidence. D'Adamo concurs with that. What you fail to understand is that his theory is supported by over 1000 (and the study you presented actually says 1400) studies indirectly that different blood types react differently to different food "stuffs". Confirming individuality over cookie cutter (you know, like a communism) approach. Your leanings in health are reflective of your not too well thought out leanings in politics. A branch of the same diseased tree.

    You should overcome the headline parroting that your lazy mind succumbs to.

    Secondly, if your command of English was as great as you suggest, you'd have understood that I have found that it works well for me. My approach is more akin to a mediterranean style, which the O diet is primarily when you look at it. If you haven't understood yet, I'm an advocate of testing what works best for you and not a one-diet-fits-all zealot like you.

    I like his views on the individual approach,ie; the one-type-fits-all idea that you promote is ignorant. He supports his ideas with research not inclusive of a complete longitudinal study on each of the 4 types, which would take a lot of funding and a lot of people and not realistic. Yours is a simplistic retort.

    So where is your evidence for the rest of your claims? You have none.

    Why such a big pussy?

    On D'Adamo, he himself has acknowledged that there is no study of blood type individual and the diet itself, but has referenced the intricacies of how the different blood typres respond to different nutrients through over 1000 scientific studies based on the responses to various foods in the gut, using inflammation as a basic marker.

    Here's the take home message that you failed, as usual, to understand.

    There is no one diet fit all. My blood work suggests that I'm on the right track for me based on a variation of the mediterranean diet. I have my tiramisu too :p jealous, right? Cmon, you can admit it :)

    Now, where is your evidence for
    - Fruit only diets
    - Insulin not secreted in the presence of high blood sugar
    - fat causes fat, eliminating all the positives of fat; hormone regulation, cellular membrane, etc etc

    You're extremist views on diet are merely a branch, extension from the real problem you have.

    Cherry picking one thing from what I say to misrepresent is a side effect of that disease. Clear your mind.

    and Keep running...coward
     
  24. Calcio Pauly

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    See above. The same old song and dance by our resident communist weasel.
    I'm just here to remind you what pathetic liars like you do for society; nothing.

    I'm not going anywhere anytime soon, commie fan.

    You're full of shit, as usual. Trying to turn my argument on me is lazy, and dumb, both of which you've demonstrated plenty of in the last few pages.

    Prove it. The statement is not even up for interpretation. Too much sugar in your blood causes insulin to be secreted by the pancreas. You say it's false.

    Prove it, chicken shit.
     
  25. totti fan

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    So we also agree that there is insufficient evidence to support the purported health benefits of a blood type diet.

    D'Adamo wrote his book on blood-type diets in the 90s sold over 7 million copies said he would fund a study back then and yet we're all still waiting. The blood-type diet study always seems to be just around the corner but never seems to arrive.

    If it makes you feel better though, by all means keep at it. But don't pretend it has the approval of the mainstream medical community or is backed up by solid science.
     

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