ESPN/Futbol Picante VI [R]

Discussion in 'Mexico' started by sidspaceman, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This isn’t true at all. More like it was mostly first team players with a few alternates sprinkled in for that Copa América. And Rafa only played the final for the gold cup. He preferred playing the copa instead back then in 2007 not unlike in 2015 in Chile.
     
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  2. Serg33

    Serg33 Member+

    Jul 11, 2007
    Lol....wtf....Joserra interviews himself.....fuking stupid.
     
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  3. Californian81

    Californian81 Member

    Chivas
    Mexico
    Oct 26, 2017
    I like Joserra, but even I won't be watching that bullshit interview of himself lol
     
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  4. Piedraias

    Piedraias Member+

    Feb 27, 2005
    Califas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    You like Joserra?

    What's wrong with you?

    Low T?
     
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  5. Californian81

    Californian81 Member

    Chivas
    Mexico
    Oct 26, 2017
    I don't know anyone else who likes him, but he's actually fuking hilarious. The way he pisses people off, the way he plays the malinchista role cracks me up.

    He plays a great villain.

    For serious analysis though, Gomez Junco is the stand out for me.
     
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  6. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If this true...


    http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/2018/07/17/marco-fabian-jugaria-en-liga-china


    :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    pero segun @Special_talent23 la liga china es una de las mejores...

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  7. robbits

    robbits Member+

    Jul 13, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Lol this just came up on your tube for me. I thought it was a joke. I can’t believe they followed the most ambitious crossover event in history (that show they did with the Azteca guys) with this.
     
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  8. el mofles

    el mofles Member

    May 16, 2001
    RC Mongolian BBQ
    Club:
    Birmingham City LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ever since they started with those big staffing cuts both behind the camera and on airat the US ESPN operation a few years back (and keep doing every so often) I feel Futbol Picante panel members are under extreme pressure to just be more and more outrageous for the sake of keeping the ratings at a level some corporate US/Mexico go between created based on pre-Youtube/streaming days. I haven't seen them do it for some time now, but for a moment they also had that table of footwear/sports rub/food they were hawking goods on ala Los Protagonistas circa Jose Ramon era to perhaps stop the hemorrhaging, but perhaps someone on the US side said that wasn't allowed?
     
  9. spguy

    spguy Member

    Feb 19, 2003
    Are u saying Fausto Pinto, Correa, Magallon, Castro, and Cacho were not B players?? they were the core of that starting copa america team. That was Nery breakout tournament since he was riding bench most of the time at the gold cup even though he played that final. It was pretty much an alternate squad. Rafa was the only europeo that played that copa america and bailed out for the 3rd place match against Uruguay.
     
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  10. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #3410 nicamex1935, Jul 20, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
    Uh, those players you mentioned don’t make up most of the team. Again, you initially stated that was a mostly b team in 2007.

    That’s indisputably false. Now you’ve moved the goalposts and disingenuously claimed these other players were the “core.”

    Rafa, Torrado, and Nery were our spine in Venezuela 2007.

    In addition, Magallon for Hugo was his gallo during his time as manager and Israel Castro ended up consolidating himself in that cycle.

    It was a strong and competitive squad we sent in 2007 with a couple of alternates included unlike the following editions of the copa. We strangely rotated keepers in that cup and it cost us after starting Oswaldo vs Argentina. Mex played well in that first half and it fell apart after Oswaldo’s gaffe in a set piece that allowed Heinze to open up the score.

    That should have been Memo’s cup, especially after his opening performance vs Brasil. :(

    To definitively say we would have won with Memo is silly since we deservingly lost to a highly gifted Argentina side but not starting Ochoa was a mistake and his absence was noted.
     
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  11. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    it was till a B team in copa america. consolidating vs starting at that time are two different things.
     
  12. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #3412 nicamex1935, Jul 20, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
    Ok.

    But it wasn’t a b team.

    It wasn’t a bunch of backups playing everywhere. It was the main team with 3 of the usual pieces out; Salcido, Osorio, and Pavel.
     
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  13. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This

    Aside from the Pachuca players like Cacho and Correa, everyone else were A team players though were subs for Gold Cup due to guys like Osorio, Pável, and Salcido playing starting roles

    That Copa America team had Torrado, Rafa, Oswaldo, Memo, Nery, Bravo, Ramón Morales, etc.

    All of which were far from B team material during that era
     
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  14. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    ok, so by your definition 2009 gold cup squad wasn't a "b" team either.
     
  15. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Dude stop with the mickey mouse shit..
     
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  16. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    More like according to your logic we played against Brazil in Russia this summer with a “B” team by not having Araujo, Moreno, and Reyes available.

    This is getting silly and circular so I’m going to stop. Enjoy your alphabet soup.
     
  17. spguy

    spguy Member

    Feb 19, 2003
    Nitpick Really??? 6 of those B players were starters which were the majority. Magallon hasnt even played 10 official games with the national team and you're saying he is A team material? Ahh bueno... Castro was playing as a RB under Hugo he was Osorio's back up.
     
  18. nicamex1935

    nicamex1935 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #3418 nicamex1935, Jul 21, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2018
    :confused:

    Magallón started in the gold cup final alongside Rafa so what are you going on about? I already said missing three players doesn’t make your team mostly some backup B team or whatever. Don’t get your weird insistence on it.

     
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  19. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    just let it go. these guys want to act like we are Argentina and can assemble multiple starting teams.
     
  20. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That gold cup had some alternate players like Magallon, Fausto Pinto, Fernando Arce, who didn't start or play big minutes.

    Before the Brazil game there was a rumor Oswaldo and the Atlas Mafia players were revolting. Osorio and Pardo made joint announcements they wouldn't play Copa America. Then Salsa I remember he announced he was out too. It was rumored he had beef with Egea, Hugo's main assistant.

    Oswaldo sat out the Brazil game and Ochoa had a great performance. Setting up another revolt with Oswaldo asking to play the next game. Not gonna check wikipedia but I think I remember Oswaldo playing all the following games with Ochoa back to the bench.

    As far as the strikers the spots were up for grabs with rumors of Hugo trying to get Gio and Vela on the squad early but Chucho getting his way and keeping them for his "proceso".

    Copa America squad had Luis Angel Landin FFS.

    No recontramamen with this A squad shiat.
     
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  21. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Its fucken lame when most of the people here laugh when the nads bring out the ABC's but its completely ok for us to do so..

    It was a Senior NT.. nothing else..
     
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  22. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Or when people nitpick to when an argument.

    It doesn't matter if it was a senior NT tournament or not.

    Everybody recognizes Germany sent an alternate squad to Confeds.

    Para que hacernos pendejos?
     
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  23. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Oh cuando sabes a que juegas..

    Mexico fue a esa Copa America para ver "nuevos nombres?"

    There is differences.. I wont deny that.. But to use and excuse you make fun of is being a hypocrite..
     
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  24. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    They are right, you are wrong. For 2015 Copa America, Mexico sent a B team. Pardo and Osorio not getting permission to play and Salcido bailing doesn't make the team it a B team. It's almost spazzo logic when they suddenly get Dempsey suspended and want to claim they had a B squad when they proceed to lose.
     
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  25. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Rafa paraphrasing Bobby Boucher? What a time to be alive.


     
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