CONCACAF Rankings Thread

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by JYDA, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. 2in10

    2in10 Member+

    LA Galaxy, Internazionale
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #277 2in10, Jul 19, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2018
    Maybe they are reworking the format? Or maybe they are having a hard time calculating? They have not updated the points calculations yet. Their webmaster may be having a bad day.
     
  3. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well it’s 5pm in Switzerland. Working day is getting late... is this where FIFAs marketing / web department resides?
     
  4. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like they're skipping the July rankings. They probably are going to change their formula so they don't have Germany #1 after the World Cup.
     
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  5. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in CONCACAF in the August 2018 FIFA Rankings:

    16. Mexico (down 1)
    22. USA (up 3)
    32. Costa Rica (down 9)
    54. Jamaica (even)
    61. Honduras (up 1)
    69. Panama (down 14)
    72. El Salvador (even)
    79. Canada (even)
    81. Curacao (even)
    91. Trinidad and Tobago (even)

    Teams do not have their points changed if they don't play. Every CONCACAF team below Panama has the same ranking as before. The teams who used to have 0 points now have 868. Anguilla, Bahamas, and Turks and Caicos Islands are the CONCACAF teams with 868. USA has their highest ranking since they were 22nd in September 2016.
     
  6. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mexico and the US would have done really well when you apply the new formula from June 2014 onward. Mexico would be 10th and the US 15th.
     
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  7. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's what happens when I spend way too long programming up the ability to calculate the new FIFA rankings as of today. Obviously nothing has changed since the only matches since the rankings updated were Guatemala beating Cuba and Jamaica smacking Grenada. These results gave about ~1 ranking point to the victors. So...nothing changed.

    But I'll post these after rounds of Nations League qualifying where things will be a little more interesting.

    Code:
      Rank  Team                             Points    Prev Pts    Prev Rank    +/-  Confederation
    ------  -----------------------------  --------  ----------  -----------  -----  ---------------
        16  Mexico                             1560        1560           16      0  CONCACAF
        22  United States                      1508        1508           22      0  CONCACAF
        32  Costa Rica                         1471        1471           32      0  CONCACAF
        54  Jamaica                            1401        1400           54      0  CONCACAF
        61  Honduras                           1368        1368           61      0  CONCACAF
        69  Panama                             1343        1343           69      0  CONCACAF
        72  El Salvador                        1332        1332           72      0  CONCACAF
        79  Canada                             1304        1304           79      0  CONCACAF
        81  Curaçao                            1300        1300           81      0  CONCACAF
        91  Trinidad and Tobago                1264        1264           91      0  CONCACAF
       104  Haiti                              1212        1212          104      0  CONCACAF
       126  Antigua and Barbuda                1132        1132          126      0  CONCACAF
       132  Nicaragua                          1116        1116          132      0  CONCACAF
       135  St Kitts and Nevis                 1104        1104          135      0  CONCACAF
       146  Guatemala                          1066        1064          146      0  CONCACAF
       152  Dominican Republic                 1040        1040          152      0  CONCACAF
       153  Suriname                           1036        1036          153      0  CONCACAF
       160  Barbados                           1005        1005          160      0  CONCACAF
       163  Belize                              999         999          163      0  CONCACAF
       168  Grenada                             979         980          168      0  CONCACAF
       170  St Lucia                            972         972          170      0  CONCACAF
       173  Puerto Rico                         960         960          173      0  CONCACAF
       173  St Vincent and the Grenadines       960         960          173      0  CONCACAF
       177  Dominica                            952         952          177      0  CONCACAF
       178  Bermuda                             948         948          178      0  CONCACAF
       181  Cuba                                938         940          181      0  CONCACAF
       182  Guyana                              936         936          182      0  CONCACAF
       188  Aruba                               916         916          188      0  CONCACAF
       199  US Virgin Islands                   892         892          199      0  CONCACAF
       202  Cayman Islands                      880         880          202      0  CONCACAF
       204  British Virgin Islands              872         872          204      0  CONCACAF
       204  Montserrat                          872         872          204      0  CONCACAF
       206  Anguilla                            868         868          206      0  CONCACAF
       206  Bahamas                             868         868          206      0  CONCACAF
       206  Turks and Caicos Islands            868         868          206      0  CONCACAF
    
     
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  8. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obviously very few changes due to how few points friendlies outside of the FIFA Calendar window are worth.

    Code:
    FIFA Rankings for CONCACAF as of 01 September 2018
    
    
      Rank  Team                             Points    Prev Pts    Prev Rank    +/-  Confederation
    ------  -----------------------------  --------  ----------  -----------  -----  ---------------
        16  Mexico                             1560        1560           16      0  CONCACAF
        22  United States                      1508        1508           22      0  CONCACAF
        32  Costa Rica                         1471        1471           32      0  CONCACAF
        54  Jamaica                            1399        1400           54      0  CONCACAF
        61  Honduras                           1368        1368           61      0  CONCACAF
        69  Panama                             1343        1343           69      0  CONCACAF
        72  El Salvador                        1332        1332           72      0  CONCACAF
        79  Canada                             1304        1304           79      0  CONCACAF
        81  Curaçao                            1300        1300           81      0  CONCACAF
        91  Trinidad and Tobago                1264        1264           91      0  CONCACAF
       104  Haiti                              1212        1212          104      0  CONCACAF
       126  Antigua and Barbuda                1132        1132          126      0  CONCACAF
       132  Nicaragua                          1116        1116          132      0  CONCACAF
       135  St Kitts and Nevis                 1104        1104          135      0  CONCACAF
       145  Guatemala                          1068        1064          146      1  CONCACAF
       152  Dominican Republic                 1040        1040          152      0  CONCACAF
       153  Suriname                           1036        1036          153      0  CONCACAF
       160  Barbados                           1004        1005          160      0  CONCACAF
       163  Belize                              999         999          163      0  CONCACAF
       168  Grenada                             979         980          168      0  CONCACAF
       170  St Lucia                            972         972          170      0  CONCACAF
       173  Puerto Rico                         960         960          173      0  CONCACAF
       173  St Vincent and the Grenadines       960         960          173      0  CONCACAF
       177  Dominica                            952         952          177      0  CONCACAF
       178  Bermuda                             948         948          178      0  CONCACAF
       181  Cuba                                939         940          181      0  CONCACAF
       182  Guyana                              936         936          182      0  CONCACAF
       188  Aruba                               916         916          188      0  CONCACAF
       199  US Virgin Islands                   892         892          199      0  CONCACAF
       202  Cayman Islands                      880         880          202      0  CONCACAF
       204  British Virgin Islands              872         872          204      0  CONCACAF
       204  Montserrat                          872         872          204      0  CONCACAF
       206  Anguilla                            868         868          206      0  CONCACAF
       206  Bahamas                             868         868          206      0  CONCACAF
       206  Turks and Caicos Islands            868         868          206      0  CONCACAF
    
     
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  9. nfitz

    nfitz Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Toronto
  10. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No they have not.
     
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  11. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    What I don't understand about that CONCACAF rankings page is this:

    Yes, French Guiana, Guadeloupe and Martinique are all overseas departments of France, but they all have their own unique flags. So why use the French flag?
     
  12. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    I know, every time I see the French Tricolour I get very annoyed.

    They're not representing metropolitan France nor the French national team.

     
  13. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about St. Martin, which is also French?
     
  14. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Does Saint Martin have it's own flag? The Dutch side, Sint Maarten has it's own flag, but I can't seem to any unique flag for Saint Martin.
     
  15. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Okay, I found a flag, but it's unofficial so I think that it wouldn't be used anyways.
     

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  16. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in CONCACAF in the October 2018 FIFA Rankings:

    16. Mexico (down 1)
    23. USA (down 1)
    37. Costa Rica (even)
    53. Jamaica (even)
    62. Honduras (even)
    70. El Salvador (up 2)
    70. Panama (even)
    76. Canada (up 3)
    79. Curacao (up 2)
    93. Trinidad and Tobago (down 3)

    El Salvador has a higher exact value than Panama, but teams that are tied when rounded to the nearest whole number are listed tied. Canada's ranking of 76th is their best since they were 68th in March 2013.
     
  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Turks and Caicos Islands has sole possession of 211th, which is last. With the old rankings there was a tie with 0 points.
     
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  18. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in CONCACAF in the November 2018 FIFA Rankings:

    17. Mexico (down 1)
    25. USA (down 2)
    36. Costa Rica (up 1)
    54. Jamaica (down 1)
    62. Honduras (even)
    70. El Salvador (even)
    71. Panama (down 1)
    78. Canada (down 2)
    80. Curacao (down 1)
    92. Trinidad and Tobago (up 1)

    The Top 10 had a combined change of down 6 and all of Concacaf had a combined change of down 12.
     
  19. andregunts

    andregunts Member

    Real Madrid
    Jamaica
    Jun 13, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    Jamaica should be ranked #1
     
  20. edwin_f_sorto

    edwin_f_sorto New Member

    Jun 26, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Yeah right!
     
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  21. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't post December 2018 here, and only 6 Concacaf teams changes positions then. There weren't rankings in January, and there won't be in March. February is the first of eight rankings this year. When national teams don't play, FIFA will skip months. USA, Costa Rica, and Panama were the only countries who had their points change. All other ranking changes are because of teams in other confederations. Here are in Top 10 in Concacaf in the February 2019 FIFA Rankings:

    17. Mexico (even)
    25. USA (even)
    37. Costa Rica (down 1)
    54. Jamaica (even)
    63. Honduras (down 1)
    73. El Salvador (down 3)
    76. Panama (down 5)
    79. Canada (down 1)
    81. Curacao (down 1)
    93. Trinidad and Tobago (down 1)

    None of the Top 10 moved up. The only other Concacaf teams that changed positions moved up. They are Nicaragua, who is up 1 to 128th, and St. Kitts and Nevis, who is up 2 to 134th.
     
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  22. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in Concacaf in the April 2019 FIFA Rankings:

    18. Mexico (down 1 but gained 9 points)
    24. USA (up 1)
    38. Costa Rica (down 1)
    56. Jamaica (down 2)
    61. Honduras (up 2)
    71. El Salvador (up 2)
    74. Panama (up 2)
    78. Canada (up 1)
    82. Curacao (down 1)
    93. Trinidad and Tobago (even)

    That's a gain of 3 spots. The 35 teams combined to gain 16 spots. Antigua and Barbuda is up 3 to 123th, which is their best ranking since they were 117th in September 2017. Concacaf teams have a mean rank of 139.5. 14 teams, which is exactly 40 percent, are better than the mean. For all teams, the mean of the numbers from 1 to 211 is 106, but the mean rank is a little lower because there are ties.
     
  23. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the Top 10 in Concacaf in the June 2019 FIFA Rankings:

    18. Mexico (even)
    30. USA (down 6, worst ranking since being 35th in July 2017)
    39. Costa Rica (down 1)
    54. Jamaica (up 2)
    61. Honduras (even)
    69. El Salvador (up 2)
    75. Panama (down 1)
    78. Canada (even)
    79. Curacao (up 3)
    92. Trinidad and Tobago (up 1)

    The 35 teams combined to drop 6 spots. The average of the numbers from 1 to 211 is 106, and the average ranking is a slightly lower number because tied teams are given the better rank with the next rank skipped. The mean rank for Concacaf is 139.71. That's worse than Africa's 111.61 and Asia's 125.24.
     
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  24. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    How is El Salvador ahead of Panamá?
     
  25. DotNelsonDot

    DotNelsonDot Member

    Jun 11, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    They went on a 5 game winning streak (not against that great of teams but still) but lost a couple days ago to japan
     
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