The Trump Presidency VI: Stormy Weather

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  1. American Brummie

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    Maybe!
     
  2. cleansheetbsc

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    and the who the silent investors will be that want to buy said assets to perhaps clean up some dirty money
     
  3. yossarian

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    LOL. Yeah, but you'll notice the things the article focuses on are more along the lines of collegiality and consensus when possible, especially with the goal of avoiding 4-4 splits before the Scalia vacancy was filled. No one has ever argued otherwise with regard to the CJ. In fact, I'd agree that he should be applauded for trying to promote collegiality and limited-in-scope decisions when possible. But all of this is still a bit different than the theory that the CJ has moved toward the left, which I still don't buy. Nevertheless, he'll have ample opportunity to prove me wrong over the course of the next few months with those cases the article mentions coming out this term.
     
  4. Deadtigers

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    And!?!? I was arguing from a cut throat Kissinger p.o.v of global politics.
     
  5. Yoshou

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    It's pretty obvious isn't it? Obama is the devil, the devil was the snake in the garden of Eden, therefore, Trump is treading upon Obama.
     
  6. Dr. Wankler

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    Damn, dude: I didn't know you had a background in Art History, Good reading of a complex, multi-dimensional painting. You don't get that kind of depth of meaning outside of the Dogs Playing Poker on Black Velvet school.
     
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    Also you can tell that the nuclear bomb is North Korean because they had so little confidence in the guidance of their missiles they shot multiple ones at a single target.

    I don't know how Obama got on Trump's golf course.
     
  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Shows how unflappable O was. A drone strike takes out the 17th hole behind him and he's like "watch this drive, bitches! And hey uhhh, Bill Gates. You got the first round of brewskis, son"
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

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    Important testimony today proves Drumpf has done nothing about Russian interference

    Why would that be?

     
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  10. Timon19

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    So, Trump is a God-King on some things, but on others, he's not.

    Neat.
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    Two key quotes from Watts

    This is why I believe US democracy will fail, even if the Dems should win in 2018
     
  12. taosjohn

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  13. The Jitty Slitter

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  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    "They're a close ally...I don't know what all the fuss is about. I won the election fair & square. Plus no collusion. Comey said many times, many times. THERE...WAS...NO...COLLUSION"

    - Pres. Russian Puppet
     
  15. The Jitty Slitter

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    LOL

    Trump surrogate Morgan unloads on the O

     
  16. American Brummie

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    It is telling, though, that he won't do anything to address it.
     
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  17. roby

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    ♫On a warm summer's evening
    On a train bound for nowhere :coffee:
     
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    Well, it all started during Obama’s imperial presidency...

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    Off course that only confirms a central tenet to your world view....
     
  19. Timon19

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    When has a US President ever told the NSA what to do?
     
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    Oh come on... Isn't it obvious?
     
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    CNN too. Publishing a rather damning timeline:https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/politics/rob-porter-trump-analysis/index.html
     
  23. charlie15

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    Nothing to see there, two of the most despicable people having a go at each other.
     
  24. stanger

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/steele-dossier-trump-russia-mueller-investigation-2017-10

    For those of you with a hard-on to discredit what I post, please note the original post that @yossarian replied to states I have questions about how the information was gathered, not that I don't believe the information.

    This article is pretty in line with my thinking.

    Are FISA applications available to be made public from a FOIA request? Even if heavily redacted?
     
  25. yossarian

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    The article is fairly general and the author's credentials don't indicate that she has any background in the law or these types of warrants. So specifically what part is in line with your thinking. Do you have a problem with the fact that the dossier was used at all? If that's the case then you would have a similar problem with the vast majority of affidavits/applications supporting surveillance or search warrants generally. It's not uncommon at all for authorities to get the information used to support a warrant request from someone with an ax to grind or ulterior motive, and courts have said that such is usually not a problem as long as its disclosed. It seems, here, that even Rep. Gowdy agrees that the FBI disclosed that political actors funded the dossier, although he takes issue with the fact that it doesn't name Clinton specifically. IMO, this is a good op/ed regarding this issue......

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/03/opinion/nunes-memo-trump-mueller.html

    And fwiw, Professor Kerr leans libertarian and is a frequent contributor to the volokh conspiracy, which is a libertarian-leaning legal blog.

    I would not think so, at least not while there was an active investigation.
     
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