2017 U.S. Open Cup schedule

new kickoff time...

New York Red Bulls vs. Philadelphia Union
Wednesday, June 28
8PM ET
Red Bull Arena, Harrison, N.J.

 

USL‏Verified account @USL 21h21 hours ago
.@fccincinnati announce 25,000 tickets sold for @opencup clash vs @ChicagoFire

Taylor Twellman‏Verified account @TaylorTwellman 8h8 hours ago
BREAKING: @usopencup tonight has moved to ESPN at 8pmET. @fccincinnati host @ChicagoFire in a Round of 16 matchup. #FCCvCHI

 

Here's the latest update of my ever popular* league ELO rankings.

*not at all true

Some basic info, for those who want it:
1. These rankings use all USOC games since 1996 to determine the relative strengths of the leagues. The names used below just represent the current names of leagues at that level. In reality the leagues have changed around a lot, and what is now NASL used to be USL D-1, and the A League before it. Similarly for all the other levels.
2. There are bound to be mistakes back in the history, but the beauty of ELO rankings is that they are self-correcting over time, so the "actual strengths" probably aren't too far off from this right now, even with errors in older competitions.
3. The actual results used are as follows:
a. Game finishes in regulation with a result: goals scored
b. Game finishes after extra time with a result: goals scored
c. Game goes to penalty kicks: goals scored before the penalty kicks. The game is "recorded" as a tie.
4. A home team has its rating raised by 100, and the change in ratings for each of the teams is calculated based on the result of the game, and the relative difference between the two ratings. This means that currently, we would expect an NASL team hosting an MLS team to be slightly in favor of the MLS team, but not significantly so.
5. The average change in score for any individual game is about 7. This means that one league goes up by 7, and the other down by 7.
6. There is no way to account for the fact that many MLS teams play 'B' or 'C' sides in the first few rounds they participate. I can only base it on the teams fielded.

2017 Note: Based on earlier discussions, I will keep NASL and USL separate for this year. Once we see how sanctioning for these leagues goes, a final decision about their future representation in these numbers will be made.

Round	MLS	NASL	USL	PDL	NPSL	USASA/etc
2016	1798	1609	1575	1371	1289	1358
2017 R1	1798	1609	1575	1365	1298	1354
2017 R2	1798	1603	1608	1363	1284	1344
2017 R3	1798	1623	1606	1341	1284	1348
2017 R4	1787	1632	1609	1341	1284	1347
2017 R5	1781	1640	1607	1341	1284	1346

A USL and an NASL team survive the round, only to face each other next round. However, that means that there will be a lower division team at least until the Semifinals. The NASL win at home is worth slightly more than the average change in a USOC game. With current ratings, the MLS team should still have been a favorite even at an NASL game, but not by a lot. As far as the USL games, a draw at home is in fact a slight positive for them, due to the disparity in rankings, but their loss on the road is still a loss, giving them an overall pretty negligible drop for the round.

USL could close the gap a decent bit, or NASL could widen it some. MLS will stay constant, since MLS teams only face each other.

 

Home teams have advanced in 54 of 91 ties this tournament (59%), including 20 of the last 24 (83%).

Even with the two upsets tonight, MLS has still advanced 11 of 16 times against lower division clubs (69%, in line with historical average).

Miami and Cincinnati pulled off the 81st and 82nd all-time upset of an MLS team by a lower-division team, but only the ninth and tenth in the last three years. If someone's going to make it 83, it'll be in the semis.

 

Divisions vs. Divisions (W-L-T-Adv)

USSSA
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0-1-0-0 v NPSL
0-1-0-0 v PDL
0-2-0-0 TOTAL

USASA
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1-1-0-1 v USASA
4-2-1-5 v NPSL
4-4-2-5 v PDL
1-6-0-1 v USL
0-1-0-0 v MLS
10-14-3-12 TOTAL

NPSL
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1-0-0-1 v USSSA
2-1-1-2 v USASA
3-5-3-5 v PDL
0-4-1-0 v USL
0-1-0-0 v NASL
6-14-5-8 TOTAL

PDL
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1-0-0-1 v USSSA
4-4-2-5 v USASA
5-3-3-6 v NPSL
1-7-1-1 v USL
2-3-0-2 v NASL
13-17-6-15 TOTAL

USL
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6-1-0-6 v USASA
4-0-1-5 v NPSL
7-1-1-8 v PDL
3-3-2-4 v USL
2-3-0-2 v NASL
2-8-1-3 v MLS
24-16-5-28 TOTAL

NASL
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1-0-0-1 v NPSL
3-2-0-3 v PDL
3-2-0-3 v USL
2-2-0-2 v MLS
9-6-0-9 TOTAL

MLS
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1-0-0-1 v USASA
8-2-1-8 v USL
2-2-0-2 v NASL
7-7-2-8 v MLS
18-11-3-19 TOTAL

Amateur clubs went 4-22-2 against pro clubs, advancing four times and being outscored 78-30.

 

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Miami and Cincy must be feeling pretty good knowing that one of them is going to make the Semi-Finals
I feel the west bracket is stronger, so who knows if one of them can make the final...

 

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2017 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup:
QUARTERFINALS, RESULTS:
July 10 in San Jose, Calif.
San Jose Earthquakes 3 LA Galaxy 2. Goals: Wondolowski 16, 51, Hoesen 62; Van Damme 3, own goal 84.
San Jose -- Tarbell; Sarkodie, Imperiale, Jungwirth; Cato (Salinas 82), Thompson, Hyka (Dawkins 84), Yueill (Bernardez 88), Lima; Hoesen, Wondolowski.
LA Galaxy -- Rowe; Diallo, Romney, Van Damme, Cole; Garcia, Jaime Villarreal (Lassiter 82); Jamieson (Mendiola 67), dos Santos, Boateng; McBean (McInerney 67).
Att.: 14,056.

July 11 in Kansas City, Kansas
Sporting KC 3 FC Dallas 0. Goals: Blessing 108+, 113+, Salloi 119.
Sporting KC -- Melia; Abdul-Salaam, Opara (Ellis 105), Palmer-Brown, Sinovic; Espinoza, Ilie, Medranda; Gerso (Salloi 85), Rubio (Feilhaber 90), Blessing.
FC Dallas -- Gonzalez; Grana, Zimmerman, Harris, Hollingshead (Morales 88); Gruezo, Ulloa (Akindele 46); Barrios, Diaz, Lamah (Colman 105); Urruti.
Red Cards: Sporting KC -- Sinovic 15; FC Dallas -- Urruti 101, Morales 110+.
Att.: 15,016.

 

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OK, #USOC2017 fans, the Quarterfinal between @TheMiamiFC & @fccincinnati will not be played tonight. Details on new date coming soon.