The Terrorism thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by YankBastard, Jul 24, 2016.

  1. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

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    No it's you that keeps bringing up Christianity in an attempt that portray Christianity and Islam as equally harmful. You did that earlier as well when you claimed I was moving goalposts and you apologized for it. But since you insist on the comparison. There are dozens of christian nations with legalized gay marriage. Not a single muslim one though.

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    PS: maybe you're unaware but the JC in my name stands for Johan Cruijff, not Jesus Christ.
     
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  2. JC-14

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    One of the three terrorists of last saturday was in this documentary at 14:45
     
  3. JC-14

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    News fabrication:

    871490500179656705 is not a valid tweet id


     
  4. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    I somehow understand the bbc. If they dont do this they fear this might evolve into a civil war. I know, far-fetched but they really want to prevent more violence by faking this. It is only fighting the symptoms and not the core of the problem but fighting the symptoms would be an ok measure if they accepted there was a core to the problem as well.
     
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  5. Gamecock14

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    Most seem to think it has to do with Qatar's friendly relations with Iran.

    It seems a group of people came with signs to be in front of the television. They moved in front of all the cameras already set up.

    Dude is acting like the BBC pulled random people off the streets and paid them.
     
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  6. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    The Orlando guy was not a jihadist.
     
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  7. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    From the POV of an American Indian, I can say the exact same things about Christianity
     
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  8. LastBoyscout

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    Not a single one of those nations is a "christian nation". Unless it includes the Vatican. Our domestic politics today are largely based on humanism which has been fought into existence over hundreds of years often AGAINST the opposition of the dominant christian churches in those regions.
     
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  9. ceezmad

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    There are studies that show that non believers know more about religious texts than the average person that follows the religion.

    Now a Mike Huckabee or Umar know a lot more about their religion than the average believers and you can not quote verses to them because they have practice the deflection and will make solid (in their mind) arguments on how the bible disproves homosexuality and why tge Quran supports putting to death people that leave the religion.
     
  10. taosjohn

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    And from the POV of the white American male I can say the exact same things about white American males...

    (Pretty sure the clutch of Auschwitz survivors in the elder generation of my family would have said it about German males, too.)
     
  11. The Devil's Architect

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    That's because there are a lot of people that are believers, primarily in a cultural context only.
     
  12. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    I try to explain, using small words, to my friends that long for a dominionist Christian America, that you will only end up with two possible outcomes, eventual domination of the government by a sect of Christianity that will persecute yours, or a state religion where no one actually worships
     
  13. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    Yeah, love thy neighbour, turn the other cheek, and you shall not kill are clearly hints the conquistators ended up in hell. ISIS folks think they end up in heaven. I wonder why
     
  14. Gamecock14

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    He isn't talking about the conquistadors. Though, you likely won't know that part of American History.
     
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  15. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    100% sure the conquistadors believed they ended up in heaven too. Maybe their diaries haven't been translated into bigot yet for you to read, but Cortes and Pizarro definitely believed they were doing God's work.
     
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  16. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    Yeah they probably read something into the bible that wasnt there. No need for that with a quran
     
  17. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    You're clearly not familiar with the practice of the colonization of this country.

    Settled by people who were persecuted for their beliefs, who within a generation, turned around and started persecuting and killing the indigenous residents of this continent for not believing what they did, once they had a de facto foothold on the continent.

    I shouldn't expect too much from you silly Germans and Poles, because most of us had been already been driven west or to Indian Territory by the time you guys started emigrating to the middle of the continent and Kansas / Nebraska were opened for "settlement".
     
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  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

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    That's theoretical Christianity. White American evangelicals -- meaning the currently dominant U.S. religion, from a policy perspective -- don't believe any of those things. We're not going to have a useful discussion of evangelical beliefs by referring to the New Testament.
     
  19. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    Reading it actually helps
     
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  20. The Devil's Architect

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    Now you're just going to get weird with Quantum Christianity
     
  21. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    Ive been refering to the ideologic foundation that leads to people exercising violence. Anchor points in an ideology that makes violence possible. SJWs here were trying to justify or relativize muslim violence with what happened 500 years ago against christian core values which is nonsense of course. Chrisitianity had its problems with violence despite the ideology and because or through human nature. Islam accelerates violence and that is a problem
     
  22. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

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    It take weird physics to describe a weird reality.
     
  23. ceezmad

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    For sure, that is why @Bootsy Collins point only makes sense in a way with religion experts, the average Muslim/Christian also does not know their religion any more than what they hear in Friday/Sunday.

    If they go to a preacher that teaches hate for the gays, that is what they learn and argue in favor for.
     
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  24. The Devil's Architect

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    That's the Holy Spirit for you
     
  25. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
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    You guys may not accept it but this eternal shying away from the core of the problem doesnt help muslims. If you dont change, if we dont change, you're as good as fighting on the side of ISIS.
     

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