Ventura's Italia

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Stamos, Jul 2, 2016.

  1. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    1. You're starting to get annoying with your zaza hate. You have an obsession with him and it's unhealthy.

    2. Balotelli needs to prove himself not just on form. Don't forget how he fell out of favour with teammates. He has deservedly been cast out of the team. I have no problem with Ventura wanting to talk with him and look at his character change first hand before he calls him up. It's not like we're in dire need of a striker. It's all about Belotti moving forward anyways.
     
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  2. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    It is ********ing December. When will gli Azzurri take the pitch next, late February, early March? Can these idiots filling pieces in the rags just go home and have some panettone e cafe.
     
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  3. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    What about Giuseppe Rossi and Gilardino?
     
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  4. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I want Totti back. And Gattuso.
     
  5. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    Me too. Gattiso was a savage lol if you tried any fancy step over moves in front of that guy he would clean you out and take the yellow lol He wasn't one for the bullsh*t.
     
  6. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    You must admit that West Ham fans are Cold for this tweet hahaha
     
  7. Deleted User x

    Deleted User x Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    I still remember the Milan vs Man U CL series when he shut down CR7. He was like a pitbull pouncing every time Ronaldo got the ball.
     
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  8. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
  9. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
  10. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    One of the most underrated players to wear the Azzurri jersey. The guy was all business when he stepped on the field. He was all hustle and heart. I actually miss watching that guy play.
     
  11. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Ventura is making a stand and he is making this "level of the league" more of an issue than it really is. This is why he won't pick either Giovinco or Balotelli.
     
  12. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    2007. Maldini was CR7's Papa.

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  13. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    #538 mikeyjames, Dec 20, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2016
    Gio and Balo is not really in the same situation. Seba would have gotten a call up if he was scoring in Europe. He's not getting a call up's because they are not calling up MLS players no matter who they are. balotelli is not getting a call up because it seem they just don't like him. He was up front about both seba and pirlo from the start and said I don't call up MLS players. . In the case of Balo he changed his story multiply times. First he said he needed to score more, then he said he needed to keep scoring, then he said it's not just about scoring goals it's his attitude, then he said I'll talk to him after calling up Zaza, then It was I'll go watch him play, more than a month later it's back to I'll talk to him. What he's doing is buying himself time hoping balotelli does something stupid or stops scoring so he doesn't have to follow up on what he said. He's running out of excuses at the moment. The Media is asking him about Balo every time h's on a mic. They are not asking him about seba because he gave a clear answer already "I DON'T CALL UP MLS PLAYERS" I already know what's going to happen. Balotelli will only get a call up if we hit a bumpy road and the Italian media and more fans start questioning his decision to leave out a inform striker for players like Zaza and eder. He will then give him a call up with all pressure on his back and if he fails to produce he will shoulder all the blame. Ventura will then say this is why I didn't want to call him up. Remember who called it and where you read it first. Balotelli will only be given a call up if Ventura is under pressure and needs to divert the attention away from himself. Who better than to call up than the man the media loves to see fail. He gets a call up and every English media will be watching hoping for that red card.
     
  14. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    another Boss player.
     
  15. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    #540 mikeyjames, Dec 20, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2016
    If he really wanted to take a stand he would just say see you after the 2018 World Cup and that's end of story. Look at the changes in his story. Look what he said here https://www.google.ca/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3819940/amp/Mario-Balotelli-Italy-recall-continues-goal-scoring-spree-Nice-says-boss-Giampiero-Ventura.html?client= Now is he not scoring ? Now thar he can no longer use his scoring as an excuse he moves to this http://www.football-italia.net/94842/ventura-‘door-open-balotelli’ what has he done off field in 2015 or 2016 so far ? (cricket sound) I can go on and on with the comments he makes that contradict each other, but you can clearly see a patten here. He just keeps setting up different road blocks for the guy, and once he overcomes that road block he sets up another one. all while players like Zaza just walk in the team while not playing football at all. I would respect what he's doing if he held every player to the same standard, but come on now. How can you call up a player seating in the stands is street clothing while doing this to another player that producing at a high rate ? Even Zaza himself said I didn't think I would have gotten a call up. No sh*! he knows he wasn't even playing football. You don't even have to like balotelli see this is just wrong. If people weren't given a 2nd chance in life then where would you be ? Where would I be ? He said he wants to help Zaza, but has Zaza helped himself ? He got a 2nd chance at club level and dropped the ball, still got rewarded with a 2nd chance with the national team and dropped the ball again. Yet did Ventura say anything about this ? Is he getting the same treatment as balotelli ? (Cricket sound) so he got a 2nd chance before Balo got his 2nd chance All while doing nothing ? yet Balo is producing at a high rate and can't get his 2nd chance ? also will he help players like Rossi, Cassano.. Ect by giving them call up's like he did with Zaza ? Just think about this for a sec. We are a top football team in the world with high standards right ? Yet this man gave a call up to man in the stands in street clothes, a man on zero goals that was not even playing football at the time. All while setting up road blocks for one of the most inform strikers we have. All while telling him he needs to score more. How can you fix something you already fixed ? Scoring goals ? Check, staying out of trouble ? Check. What more can the man possibly do ?Like I've said you don't even have to like balotelli to see something is not right here. Something tells me it's not Ventura who is black balling him. I truly think it's Carlo telling him not to call him up. This has nothing to do with football and more to do with not liking the person. I've never seen a coach with no history with a player do this. Ventura has never met balotelli, never talk to him. I believe this is all Carlo. Since Carlo took over balotelli has never played for Italy. By the way sorry for the story book, but it's dead in here anyways lol...
     
  16. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    If Balo keeps his play up the more you will see story like this in the media because people will ask what else can it be if Zaza is walking into the team while relaxing in the stands on Zero goals and balotelli can't get in while being 1 of the most in form strikers we have.
    Mario Balotelli at a disadvantage 'because he is black', claims football agent who believes Italian football is racist
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    Mario Balotelli has been a persistent target of racist abuse
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    Balotelli comes in for such fierce crisicism in his homeland because the Italian game is “light years behind other places”, suggests agent Mino Raiola
    The agent of striker Mario Balotelli has claimed that the player would not be so harshly judged by the fans and media if he was white, and has insisted that racism remains a significant problem in the Italian game.

    Balotelli has found himself under considerable criticism for a perceived lack of loyalty and discipline.

    And his agent, Mino Raiola, has told the Italian media that this is because attitudes in the country remain “light years behind other places” when it comes to questions of race and tolerance.

    [​IMG]Mino Raiola with his client, who he has suggested faces daily discrimination

    “People judge (Balotelli) too much and I think that is because he lives in a country that is not ready to have such a strong black player,” Raiola said.

    Italy is light years behind other countries in that respect. There is racism in the game: some of it is unconscious but black players have to do twice as much as others to prove themselves.”

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    The Italian game has long battled allegations of prejudice and racial discrimination, with Italian players, coaches and fans all falling under the spotlight in recent months.

    Former Milan and Derby footballer Stefano Eranio was sacked by a Swiss television company, after the Italian said live on air that “black players are not accustomed to paying attention to certain details”.

    A few months before, the former Milan and Italian national team coach, Arrigo Sacchi, was forced to deny he was a racist after he told the national media that Italy’s youth set-up features “too many blacks”.

    [​IMG]Arrigo Sacchi's comments landed him in hot water earlier this year

    Balotelli has experienced racial hatred first-hand. During his first spell at AC Milan he was – along with team mate Kevin Prince Boateng – frequently a target of whistling and monkey chants, and he has been booed by racist fans whilst training on national team duty.

    [​IMG]Internazionale fans hold up signs denouncing racist abuse of Balotelli, in 2009
     
  17. Deleted User x

    Deleted User x Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    You're officially boring now.
     
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  18. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    #543 mikeyjames, Dec 20, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2016
    Watch how big this story will become if balotelli keeps scoring while staying out of trouble and getting over looked for players doing nothing or producing else than he is. The Media will jump on it because for 1 it's balotelli who has a history of being racially abuse, 2 some of the idiot fans back home gave us a bad rep, 3 this is the old head in charge of our football program.
    Carlo Tavecchio: Italian FA president banned for racist slur

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    The president of the Italian football federation (FIGC), Carlo Tavecchio, has been banned for six months by European football governing body Uefa for making racist remarks.

    The 71-year-old caused controversy during his election campaign in July by referring to "banana eaters" when discussing foreign players.
     
  19. Deleted User x

    Deleted User x Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    Don't worry, the way things are going in Italy our NT will resemble France's in a decade or so. There are about 6,000 African migrant men that arrive in Italy every week. So fear not @mikeyjames us wops won't be in your way for much longer.
     
  20. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Guys are you sure its Carlo?

    Don't forget that Conte did actually call Balotelli when we played vs Croatia at San Siro back in November 2014. He got injured in training so he couldn't play, but Conte did call him, and that was when he was a rubbish player.
     
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  21. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    #546 mikeyjames, Dec 20, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2016
    what the hell is this guy talking about hahaha did I make the comments ? "us wops won't be in your way" ? "Africans coming from France everyday" ? Wait what! Hahaha What does that have to do with anything ? hahaha Dude you're only proving his point with this nonsense comment. He does have point to a certain extent and you just proved it. He said black players have to do more to get a call up right ? Zaza walks onto the team over balotelli while in the stands on zero goals right ? Can you still comprehend ? Ok I'll continue now that you're still with me. Balotelli is still proving himself just to get a 2nd call up. Zaza already got a 2nd chance in less time while proving nothing ? So obviously his comments is being proving since balotelli has to do way more just to get a sub spot on the bench. Also Monto got a call up while doing nothing at Milan. So if you actually look at his comments it hold some kind of weight to a certain extent. I mean you're looking at it first hand when compared Zaza. What did venturea say ? Balotelli needs to score more. He's dis that and he still said he needed to keep it up. Why didn't he say Zaza needed to score at least 1 goal or even play football for that matter ? So they are actually proving his point about black players needing to do more. You're going on a borderline racist rant about wops and Africans coming everyday just proves what he's saying. I mean those commentsare embarrassing "us wops won't be in your way" I'm Italian idiot lol Africans coming every day" dude you just made his comment relevant smh. What the hell was that lol wait did this dude really just say us woos won't be in you way and Africans coming into italy everyday wow wow wow this guy just proved his agent's point with this ignorant and borderline racist comment. Well at least we know why you don't like balotelli so your comments on him are irrelevant. Wow!!!
     
  22. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    I might need to put that post in my sig as the dumbest comment I've read on here Hahaha.. I've been on here for years and this forum has been pretty good for people not posting crap like that, but you sir just became the first person I've seen in years post this nonsense on here. Us wops won't be in your way ? Africans coming everyday from France hahaha Really ? Who's way ? Hahaha Dude stop embarrassing us with these nonsense comments. We have British, Germans and other people that come on here and you're living out the whole stupid stereotype right here with your dumb comments. The sad part is You don't even realize you proved his agent right. The key word here is ignorance! Ignorance will stop you from comprehending sense from nonsense. That's the lesson for the day. The sad part is he's not even educated on our country. There's more people from Arab countries in Italy than Africans. Not only that but people from places like Albania and Romania are deep in Italy. I have no clue where that whole Africans coming from France so us wops won't be in your way comment came from lol What does that even mean ? What stupid comment hahahaha. People with this kind of idiotic mentality is the reason why trump is president.
     
  23. mikeyjames

    mikeyjames Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    #548 mikeyjames, Dec 20, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2016
    there was also a rumour that conte didn't want to call him up but was force to call him because of the new puma deal on the table. Rumour was Puma wanted them to feature him because of deal. Conte called him up on 1 goal while he wasn't even playing. Doesn't seem like something he would do willingly. Also he didn't deserve a call up last and he admitted it. He was hot garbage last season. That being said he was Also injured for most of last season. he had to go outside of Italy to see a specialist and missed over month for Milan. I'm surprised he's even doing good this season because he never played any per season games. This is why NICE was leaving him out of the squad if their games were 3 days apart. Their coach said his fitness was poor from not playing much last season and not being part of pre season. Ps Africans are coming from France everyday. Don't worry us wops won't be in your way hahahahahahaha
     
  24. Nek Sanalet

    Nek Sanalet Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Dec 30, 2013
    NYC
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #549 Nek Sanalet, Dec 20, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2016
    Than Italy must also be racist against people from Calabria. Domenico Berardi has zero caps, and already put together two seasons better than Balotelli ever has. Three years ago, Berardi scored 16 goals and 7 assists, two years ago he had 15 goals and 10 assists....and zero caps. Balotelli has never scored more than 14 goals in any domestic season of football (he might finally do it this year, but again hasn't in the past)...explain that. The problem more than anything, is that Italian coaches always make it about themselves. Huge ego's that need to show everyone who's in charge. Your argument is nonsense, especially since the source is Balotelli's agent. He's probably pissed off because no international duty for Mario means less profitability for himself when Balotelli decides to leave France. Balotelli deserves to make the squad...but getting overlooked while in-form is par the course for Italian players internationally. It's been happening forever, and even Roberto Baggio (one of the best offensive players Italy has ever seen) went through it.
     
  25. Deleted User x

    Deleted User x Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    Get a grip dude. I never said Africans from France. Re-read the post. What reaction were you planning to get while playing the race card now? You're the one saying it's a conspiracy why your boyfriend Balotelli isn't on the team for what now 2 pages? Piss off.
     
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