Brahian Aleman isn't a center midfielder. Aguinaga's genius idea of playing without a 5 cost us last nights game. Cevallos Jr. can play as a center mid, but Aleman absolutely CANNOT. If any coach wants Aleman to perform at top level then put Aleman in an attacking position. He's an offensive player, not a center midfielder. I like Anderson Julio, but I think the kid needs more depth to his game. I personally hope Hansel Batalla continues improving b/c when he was at his best 2 seasons back he was dangerous. We need that. Guerrero seems out of position in a 3-5-2. And Anangono can't be renewed for next season. We need a technically gifted #9. No more troncos please. If only Barcos could return.
He is too expensive for us Players who contract expire in December: Norberto Araujo Julio Ayovi Neicer Reasco Edison Vega Exequiel Benavidez Enrique Vera Braihan Aleman Alejandro Villalva Fernando Guerrero Daniel Angulo Carlos Tenorio Players Rumored to be in Our Orbit Luis Ayala Juan Pablo Segovia Anibal Chala Ayrton Preciado Walter Chala
Luis Bolanos we really dont need him not sure when his contract ends but I hope he leaves !!!!! Araujo, Reasco, Vera, Tenorio: Not sure if Liga will renew any of these guys TBH. Araujo wants to play one more year before he retires. Tenorio wants to retire with us and Reasco seems like he might to. Vera Not sure about. But to all these guys these were the true warriors of Liga los que si sudaron la camiseta. I wish these guys could stay young forever but thank you guys for all your years at Liga. Luis Ayala: I would rather go for Roosevelt Oyola and had wanted him for a while but Luis Ayala is decent I have a felling IDV might let him go too either to promote some one or find some one else as their Left back. Juan Pablo Segovia: He is a decent player. If Araujo leaves Segovia, Arias, Canga in our defense would be solid options. Romero to if he ever recovers his form. Preciado: He was interesting to watch in Aucas sometimes. He has potential it would be good for him to see if he succeeds in a big team. Walter Chala: We cant go for the tactically gifted foreigners we are use to. Chala is a good player and seems to be progressing. I would rather see him start for us up top than Angulo, Tenorio, Anangono.
I would keep Brahian Alemán, Norberto Araujo (for his last year), and possibly Daniel Angulo. Carlos Tenorios contract was 2 years long so he has another year with us and then he will retire. Fernando Guerrero I would put on standby. Luis Ayala- interesting option Aníbal Chala- interesting option The other guys please NO! Rather promote players from our youth divisions like we did when Zubeldia was around. I miss seeing him in Liga. He was the type of coach we needed, but he still has to mature as a coach to win a campeonato. If anything I'd look at Michael Estrada and Felipe Mejía although IMO and as history says...National strikers don't do well in Liga. Especially not national bred target men. We should find a good foreigner up top. And one good foreigner center back. I personally think Canga should be a starter next season. And we should sign two good Ecuadorian center backs. Id take Fernando Pinillo from Emelec. He's been wanting to leave. And maybe keep Narváez as an option back there. Canga for sure and keep Romero and Araujo.
Did you see this list of players no longer continuing in Liga ? Neicer Reasco: 39 años. Norberto Araujo: 38 años José Madrid: 28 años. Daniel Angulo: 29 años. Carlos Tenorio: 37 años. Ezequiel Benavidez: 27 años llegó cuando el equipo era dirigido por Claudio Borghi. Enrique Vera: 37 años Luis Bolaños: 31 años. Julio Ayoví: 34 años, llegó en 2016 al plantel albo. Irven Ávila: 26 años This means we should be going in to a huge renovation cycle next season. We are getting rid of a lot of dead weights from our team. Hopefully we get signings we can be excited about young new promising players and hopefully have enough for a good foreigner. I hope Gabriel Corozo finds his way out of Granada B either returning to Liga or coming back to us on loan. Now would be a perfect time for that. He has spent way to much time in Granada B.
Yup I saw it. Personally I think one more should be added on- Javier Villalba and I would rethink a few names between now and December: Fernando Guerrero, Juan Anangono, and Ramon Arias. I think Aguinaga won't be renewed for next season. Rumor has it Repetto is back in orbit since the Paz wanted him last year after Zubeldia left. I would take the man in a heart beat but it appears he wants to take a break...we'll let that break be until January because we would love to have him in Liga. I heard Cevallos also has him on the radar in case Alamada can't renew with BSC so it will be a tough call to see who gets him. Honestly right now BSC looks more appealing because it is a young team with upcoming talent and Repetto could make them into an even stronger force. As far as Liga, Repetto has a chance to build from the ground up his own way, as opposed to BSC which is an already established team. Liga has good youth, but we just need the guy to help their development process and prep them for first division kind of like Zubledia did. The difference will be BSC plays Copa Lib, has more funds to do what Repetto wishes and can pay him better than we can. In liga the long term project is what will be of his liking because like I said before: he can build from the ground up like Zubeldia did. To be quite honest his job would be easier than Zubeldias. Zubeldia made lots of young guys debut and came in to lift Liga at a time when we had to almost start from scratch. He debuted Hancel, Pervis, Intriago, Canga...and consolidated JF Cevallos Jr as the star of the team along with Diego Morales. He also gave minutes to Kevin Mercado who stood out a lot while he was coach and some time to Gabriel Corozo who left shortly after. I may be forgetting a few other names, but lots of the foreigners under Zubeldia performed well. At least Repetto will have a more experienced base with Cevallos, Canga, intriago, and Batalla still young but far from noobs....and an upcoming Anderson Julio who is performing well. It shouldn't be as bad this time. We need to keep Brahman Aleman tho. We cannot and should not let him go. I know his last argument with the fans and Viteri has him on the edge now with everyone (including fans), but I'd rather have a frustrated player who cares to do well for the team than one that plays or rides bench just for a pay check. Real talk. Esteban Paz don't commit another stupid mistake like you did with Jonathan Alvez. Monster of a player who was ready to blow up this season and he sure DID, but in the wrong team. I think playing Narváez-Canga-and an experienced foreigner will do the trick. If Emelec releases Fernando Pinillo I think we should go after him. He's fast and a pretty interesting center back who always scores in emelec when give opportunities to start, but never ended up consolidating himself. He'd be great as an alternative to compete with Canga and Narváez. Aside from that promote a juvenil and keep Luis Romero. Midfield: Cevallos, Intriago, Hidalgo is the base. Vega is a good alternative to always have. Id sign one more Ecuadorian midfielder with a bit of experience. Someone like Osbaldo Lastra (for example) that will be a sub. attackers: Anderson Julio, Brahian Alemán, Hancel Batalla, Fernando Guerrero?(maybe), and one good experienced but young Ecuadorian player(example: Jose Ayovi from Chiapas), if Guerrero leaves i would promote another young player if possible Forwards: Anangono? (Maybe), A quality center forwars foreigner like Alvez or Bieler (as an example), a second striker also foreigner, and Carlos Tenorio. Where I really think we need foreigners is 2 up front and one center back. Midfield in pretty sure we can handle with just national players. We still haven't found someone to replace Cachete Morales and how influential he was.
Repetto in Liga would be a Dream come true. I love how he is very conservative with the foreigners that he brings to his team something like that is what we need in Liga. An experienced foreign defender, and a foreign Center forward and that it. I think he could do wounder with a player like Aleman even though he likes players who are more multi-functional like Rizotto. Im upset he hasnt shinned the way he should of in our team but agree he should stay for now I dont think Liga is thinking about letting him go for now. Javier Villalba, Fernando Guerrero, Juan Anangono, and Ramon Arias. They will leave Liga eventually. We NEED to STOP bringing those kinds of players tho. We removed a bunch a players we didnt really need so thats good for now. I think we can promote another midfield player from youth. The other day Aguinaga mentioned that Esmaides Julio and Harold Carcelén are promising players we have in our canteras. Corozo we should try to get back. Jose Ayovi I think he should go back to Ecuador too he spent way to much time in mexico. Fernando Pinillo would be great. Luis Ayala as well Lastra maybe not him exactly cause he has been injured a lot lately but I understand what you mean. An experienced Midfielder to come off bench. Forwards we will have to see what names get thrown out later on I wouldn't mind Chala coming to our team he would be a good alternative to have at the very least. Imagine this next season Viteri Corozo/Narvaez, Canga/Pinillo, Romero/Arias, Ayala Batalla/Quinteros, Cevallos, Hidalgo, Intriago, Ayovi/Aleman FW?/Chala
I know Repetto likes to play 4-2-3-1. Walter Chala is a good player, but I feel like his price tag would be a bit high seeing that he's a young Ecuadorian (still 24 I think). The only teams that could snatch him realistically are BSC and Emelec. I don't see either team with a necessity to do so. Maybe BSC if they want a sub for Alvez. Other than that they're good up front. I could see BSC probably aiming for Michael Estrada or Felipe Mejia instead (but I hope for their sake they stay where they are unless they are going to a foreign league). I like your line up. Mine would be more geared towards this: 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2 Viteri; Narvaez, Canga, foreigner, Quinteros (Ayala/Corozo if possible); Hidalgo, Intriago; Aleman, Cevallos Jr., J. Ayovi; foreigner or Viteri; Narvaez, Canga, foreigner; Quinteros, Hidalgo, Cevallos, Corozo/Ayala; Aleman, J. Ayovi; foreigner
Maybe your right. Either that or mexico picks him up. Cuenca came out saying a while ago that they wont be able to afford to keep him next season and would be more than happy to negotiate him with what ever team makes and offer and wants him. His current price tag is 1.6Mil if we are lucky and he really wants to play in liga we might be able to get him for less I think maybe 1Mil at most.
So what's going with Liga? Anyone know what's going to happen with Aguinaga? I don't blame him for such bad season. The players just suck. No money either to buy good players. No one really coming up from the youth that I saw. All this fall on the people in charge. Another coach next season and probably similar results. Meh.
Aguinaga is most likely leaving. Have you seen the rumored coahces? Carlos Ischia: Im not excited about that Eduardo Domínguez & Gustavo Munúa: Have very little experiance I dont know to much about them but apperently Dominguez was recomended by Bauza. Officially confirmed players leaving: Luis Bolanos Daniel Angulo Players whos contract ends/ should leave Neicer Reasco Norberto Araujo José Madrid Carlos Tenorio Ezequiel Benavidez Enrique Vera Julio Ayoví Irven Ávila Fernando Guerrero Juan Anangono Javier Villalba Braihan Aleman Players who are said to join 2017 Alex Bolanos Henry Quinonez Rumored players Ezequiel Filipetto Juan Pablo Segovia Andres Ona Maximilliano Barreiro seem like they will be spending little to no money on players and even coaches as well. But I think its time we do a major renewal of the team. All those players with contracts ending and the added players should go. Even Aleman. I liked him as a player but truth is he is having a number of issues in our team. We dont need that in our team right now. I wish that wasnt the case but he is a troubled player and his moral state is poor now. I would even dare to add Romero who apperently got arrested recently. Arias I kinda want to keep because I see more motential in him I think he can improve. I would love to see us go after Jose Ayovi, Luis Ayala, Roosevelt Oyola, or Gabriel Corozo at the bare minimum. If we can get Barreiro that be cool too but I think Emelec might pick him up. Time to really rebuild Liga !
I'd keep Juan Luis Anangono as a substitute. I thought Tenorio's contract was 2 years (heavily criticized earlier in the year by fans), so I doubt he leaves. I hear Hernan Barcos is a far stretch, but it's a possibility. Esteban has done a horrible job when it comes to making decisions in 2016. VERY POOR! Starting with Borghi, Alvez, Daniel Angulo, etc. Regarding Brahian Aleman I heard his chemistry with the rest of his teammates isn't the best, but I don't know if that would change if a new coach came in. I don't want to give up on the guy just yet. I think we spent way too much money on him to just let him leave like it's nothing. I really miss Diego Morales. Believe it or not, he was very important to the team. Yet people said "largate"....well, there you go. I'd keep Anangono, Aleman, and Guerrero from the list above ^. Not a big fan of any of the rumored players, not even Barreiro. I hope we get a foreigner that's similar to Alvez. Not too sure if we should keep Arias or not. Questionable IMO. But no more than 3 foreigners. I'd build from our youth system. Our real base can be Canga, Narvaez, Intriago, Cevallos Jr. Anderson Julio, Hansel Batalla, Quinteros, Hidalgo, Viteri....don't think I'm missing another name. I'd be interested in a return from Gabriel Corozo...possibly even Kevin Mercado IF possible. I don't see a player in the campeonato that draws my interest. At most MAYBE Robert Arboleda would be of interest. Instead of Luis Ayala I'd rather bring out someone from our youth divisions. Jose Ayovi would be very interesting. A return from Guerron too. For now those are names that come to mind. Just hope Esteban doesn't f*ck up this year AGAIN.
I heard Gustavo Munúa at the moment seems like he might be the closer option coming to Liga I heard he had a great run with Nacional in Libertadores I think. With coaches like him with little experience you dont know what to expect. Both him and Dominguez seem promising but I just hope who ever he pick will do a good job. I dont think the have a solid LB in our youth division which is why Vega has been there and why they sign some one like Henry Quinonez(who plays LB) . I would like for us to sign at least one solid LB either Oyola, Ayala, or if were lucky Corozo! One of those guys and some like Jose Ayovi who surprisingly isnt that expensive of a player Market value 700th. I forgot what his situation is I think he is on loan or something from Dorados de Sinaloa. So maybe we can get him and Corozo on loan. That would be sweet. Aleman is an expensive player and I think that one of the main reason Rodrigo is thinking of letting him go. Because they are paying him good money but he is not preforming. I honestly think what the team needs most is good moral and chemistry with in the team. So for Ligas best interest I think its best to rid players who have disciplinary issues, problems with other players, moral issues, personal issues, etc. As far as Guerrero. I would rather bring up a youth player to play his position. Thats some thing that can be done. Anangono maybe it might be worth it to keep him as a sub since a youth striker is hard to come by. Arias I think he is better than the CB in Cuenca thats for sure so if its between Arias and Segovia/Fillipeto that I would rather have Arias. What do you think about Hernan Lino? He will not continue in BSC and it was rumored a team for Quito was going to sign him.
You're right about Aleman, but it's hard for us to replace him with a player that is of equivalent value if you get what I mean. Yeah, he didn't perform this year, but if we replace him are we going to actually swop him for a player of his worth? most likely not. He's expensive and I know Liga isn't in condition to put up that kind of money this season b/c of the stupid investments Esteban made last year. The guy literally went out on a shopping spree and signed players left and right. Whether it was loans or contracting players he made very very VERY horrible decisions. Players like Villabla, Padilla, Julio Ayovi, etc. barely even played. Why over populate the team? Yes, we were being ambitious b/c on paper we had a team to compete at Libertadores and campeonato level from the very start, BUT Borghi wasn't the one to have as the mastermind of this squad. I would've preferred Ruban Dario Insua as much as I sh*tted on him being an option at one point. That came back and slapped us in the face. BSC is about to sign Jose Ayovi. They move fast. They aren't slow to make moves like Esteban and company. Especially Cevallos, he's been excellent at eyeing out players that can represent a big team like BSC. Dario Aimar, Anderson Ordonez, Xavier Arreaga....Aimar is on the NT and will eventually make his way out to a foreigner league after Libertadores I bet and Ordonez is on his way to Germany right now to play for a team that's fighting for Champions League positions. Xavier Arreaga in the few games he played was excellent. He ALMOST benched Anderson Ordonez for good. Behind him I bet they promote that kid Raul Beccerra that came from Boca last year. Most likely to be seen this upcoming season if he's actually good. They were quick to snatch Marcos Caicedo, quick to start negotiating Alvez who im sure they'll get their money's worth for and now they're in talks with Jose Ayovi. Cevallos actually places goals in his institution: "tenemos que vender por lo menos un jugador al ano en BSC". When's the last time Esteban Paz set goals like that for Liga? Don't remember it. They're selling one kid from the cantera and one player that WE could've profited from (Jonathan Alvez). How stupid is Esteban? VERY! As far as Hernan Lino...mmmm, interesting, but not so much. IMO if a player is to come to Liga I'd like to know they have either experience or huge potential for growth. Otherwise, we're gambling with our money on a "maybe". Liga has no time for "maybe" anymore. It's been 6 years going onto 7 that we don't have a title. Does Esteban not notice that the most success Liga had was developing and upbringing players from our youth system? Our best moments have been in 2014 & 2015 in this entire decade when Zubeldia implemented that way of thinking in Liga. When he was there the change was dramatic. The minute he started negotiating with Santos Laguna we got f*cked and something odd happened. Motivation and focus was lost. We haven't picked ourselves up since then. We need a Zubeldia...a Guillermo Almada....a Pablo Repetto. Someone with that mind set: youth, youth, youth, youth. Take a look at the f*cking canteras and make sh*t happen. Maybe not in one year, but in two it's possible. Zubeldia did it and I called it when Liga signed him. People talked so much sh*t about him, but time proved he was great for our institution. Unfortunately, he didn't leave with a big bang and deliver the final touch, BUT we left us a great squad that we could build on. That has been destroyed. Now we have to rebuild once again. My vote goes to the canteras and few signings this year. Sign a good foreigner striker YES, replace Aleman with a player of his worth YES, sign a good foreigner centerback YES. Those are the three things we need. As far as player at local level I suggest Robert Arboleda or Fernando Pinillo if possible. Not a fan of Ayrton Preciado who is rumored to come to Liga, so think twice Esteban. And honestly I don't see many players in this campeonato that interest me at all this season. I'd rather we develop in house.
Your right we wont replace him with a foreigner of the same level. I say we play next season with out a player like him for the financial sake of the team. If El Nacional and other teams can do it so can we. The way things are going we are not in a place to give our selves any luxuries. Cevallos is a great player lets use him in the CAM role and have lead our offense. Liga seems like they are looking at CM players for some reason. Alex Bolaños, Richard Calderon, Andres Ona. So have Cevallos play CAM with Bolanos and some one else behind him. Im upset that BSC is going after Jose Ayovi when they already have players that play great on wings and that he is more than happy to rejoin that team after what happened with them a few years back. Why couldnt we make the effort to go after him? I doubt we sign any good foreigners really. I think we should keep Arias if we let him go I know his replacement will be a downgrade. Spend the most efforts in our striker and our third foreigner will probably be the worst of the three in all reality. Also Ronie Carrillo just joined. Juan Diego Rojas and Ayrton Preciado are other rumored players I am not excited about. Maybe as the transfer season comes in we start hearing Repettos name. IDV seems like they might continue with Mendoza. Thats the one real hope for next season.
I know. The only good thing I was really happy about this season was America de Quito Going up to Seria B. Still waiting for Everest and Patria to make a come back.
Dam Liga really slacking Corozo is going to Chiapas on a 6 month loan. Again why didnt we make an effort ? Munua is our new coach IDK why im happy about it that but hopefully he is a good coach for Liga as I get the feeling he might be . Carlos Salom is a rumored striker. Honestly Liga should sign anyone or speak to anyone unless the coach asked for that player specifically. These rumored players are pretty awefull.
Cafeteros and BSC did not reach an agreement BSC wanted to get him on Loan. If I were Esteban I would drop the 1Mil to get him. His real price tag is 700th but Cafeteros seems like they want some money for him. Liga please do it!!!
Liga and most of all Esteban Paz are asleep this transfer window. No interesting signings...Salaberry to me is mediocre (who most would consider the most important signing), Alex Bolanos is decent. The rumored players Ayrton Preciado and Joao Rojas are no longer in the works. They're both Emelec's. Doesn't disappoint me b/c both of them are mediocre as well. The question is WHO do we sign. Geez, the fact that Emelec is going for Kevin Mercado and we can't BOTHERS the f*ck out of me. The fact that BSC thinks of signing Jose Ayovi and we don't even reach out to him BOTHERS me. There's no good options in the campeonato and very few outside of Ecuador yet we are doing NOTHING at all. No efforts made whatsoever. Esteban Paz is being an idiot again. Always thinking of signing garbage ass players.
Yea dude We should have never sold all of Mercados rights away we should have kept half at least. Same with Corozo and Estupinan. Sold him to play in Europe just so he can later end up in Emelec??? Dam I dont think Paz thought about long term. Shit we didnt even go after Jaison Dominguez who Cuenca managed to get on loan. Lucky them. I think Paz is choosing and picking the players him self cause I dont think Munua is seriously asking for these players.
Yeah. Liga's management don't inspire confidence for next season. It would suck to miss out on international tournaments again.
It's January 4th and we haven't had a single signing that I am pleased about. Ruben Olivera is 33 years old and most likely in a declining form from here on out. He was the capitan of Latina in the Calcio B, but can he adapt to Quito and be that important player we need? Questionable. VERY questionable. I have this gut feeling kind of like I did last year that things can possibly fail. Olivera I won't judge much, but i'll leave his signing as questionable. Liga made their last and final offer today to Hernan Barcos, but I hear Atletico Nacional and a few Brazilian teams want him. In theory, they're all ahead of us. Atletico Nacional is financial in their best moment. They played two international finals in one year and won one of them (Libertadores being the one that's the most prestigious in the Americas and the one that pays off the most....literally). If I'm not mistaken they won a local campeonato too. Sold a good handful of players too. Can we compete with that? VERY tough. The fact that we don't play Libertadores also isn't appealing. Barcos may love Liga, but I'm pretty sure if he's smart he knows he still has enough fuel in him to play in a more competitive league that will pay him more and allow him to be in the international spot light and stay relevant. Especially the offers he has right now. Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt he comes to Liga. Salgueiro is a lie. He was never an option. Would be interesting although he's older now, but it's not even real. Now.....Santiago Silva. This dude is an incredible player. 36 years old but still holds his ground and scores a decent amount of goals per season. I wonder if he's ok with just a 1 year contract? Questionable signing, but what other options do we have. Now this Cavallini that's the third option out the list...he's young, but can we place our bets on him? I need to see videos of this kid.