WPSL 2016

Discussion in 'US Women's Lower Divisions' started by SiberianThunderT, Jan 22, 2016.

  1. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Well damn....
     
  2. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, a big downgrade in the maintenance of the web site this season.
     
  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #53 msilverstein47, Jul 17, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2016
  4. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    So there's an article about the Breakers Reserves' division championship, which mentions that they'll be playing either the Philly Fever or the Penn Fusion, both in Philly whichever one happens. So NE is playing Tri-State, which I guess means the Mid-Atl champion will either play the Colonial champion, or double-up division team comes from NE/Tri-State.

    Anyway, so I guess that's two of the four main regions partially covered. For everyone else...

    ---NW won by Sounders Women
    ---NorCal won by CA Storm
    ---Coastal won by Beach FC (standings page is messed up, thinks Villa has played 11 games)
    ---PacSouth won by SD Sealions
    So the West eventually plays out almost exactly as you would've expected - or, at least how I expected:
    ---SW won by FC Dallas
    ---Heartland won by Red Stars Reserves (it's not on the WPSL schedule or standings pages, but the Stars and Menace drew on Saturday, giving the Red Stars the H2H tiebreak, though that would be moot if the Red Stars Reserves got a least a point from the Quad City Eagles on Sunday, a game which I can't find info on ANYWHERE right now)
    ---Valley won by Dayton Dutch Lions
    ---Great Lakes won by Motor City, at least according to the current standings page which apparently has them in first on tiebreak over the Michigan Chill
    Again, played out almost exactly as expected. I didn't call the SW("Big Sky") winner back when I made my predictions:
    but I don't think FCD was on the WPSL site at that point anyway (though even then I would've been wrong b/c the TX Spurs were 2nd, OKCFC 3rd).
     
  5. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
  7. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #57 SJJ, Jul 18, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2016
    The Chill defeated Motor City head-to-head (one win, one draw). The Chill win the tie-break. (The standings pages usually calculate this via GD - GF, and must be manually corrected.)


    If you went to the Documents tab on WPSL, then the By-Laws section: http://www.wpsl.info/docs/index.php?tid=75

    Law A6 Tie in Standings
    In case of a tie in the Final League Standings the following tiebreaker will be used.
    1. Head to head record between the teams.
    2. Goal difference between the teams.
    3. Goal difference within the Division.
    4. Most goals scored within League.
    5. Least goals scored against within League.
    6. Tiebreaker to be determined by a coin toss.
     
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  8. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #58 SiberianThunderT, Jul 20, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2016
    And that's a problem... If there's any automation in the standings page at all (i.e. it's not 100% manual) then the tiebreaking procedure should be built in to the automation.

    You have the same issue with the UWS tiebreak info. NWSL is *almost* as bad, but at least they have a link to the Competition Rules and Regulations right on the front page in the directory at the footer - so there's no direct connection to the standings page still, but at least it's not completely buried. All three big men's leagues have the tiebreak procedure listed or at least linked directly from the standings page, which makes so much more sense.

    - - - - -

    Anyway, more playoff info:

    WPSL has posted a news article and added to the schedule the West region's playoffs. No surprise that Zanelli's own Storm squad are hosting the four-team playoff, with 7/23 seeing Storm vs SeaLions and Sounders vs BeachFC. Regional final played the next day.

    As for the North region, I got an e-mail from the Spirit today saying that they will be playing the Penn Fusion, which kinda goes against the article that WPSL posted the other day about the Breakers:
    Granted, in theory you could have the Tri-State division have both #1 and #2 in the playoffs, but it makes no sense at all for them to play the NE and Colonial champions when the Colonial division is farther south than the Mid-Atl division in... So once again, something is seriously messed up in WPSL-land. @StarCityFan , any clarification you know of?

    =EDIT=
    Here, answered my own question.... From the Penn Fusion site:
    So WPSL's original article on who the Breakers would play was just wrong. Figures! X-D
     
  9. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, if you read the article carefully, it states where they will be playing, not who they will be playing. (I jumped to the same conclusion.)

    Anyhow, the setup for the East Conference is that each division hosts the final four in successive years. (I was told by a Charge rep that the WPSL was tired of the Charge hosting it all the time.) Last year, New England hosted. This year, it's Tri-State. Next year it will be Mid-Atlantic, then Colonial if there's still a Colonial.
     
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  10. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And - just for the hell of it, apparently - the Silverbacks are hosting Lake Norman on Saturday, something known only to those who follow their Twitter feed.
     
  11. A. Dufresne

    A. Dufresne Member

    Nov 7, 2015
    The WPSL making it up as they go along. And Zanelli setting himself up with the playoffs. No surprises - like has already been stated. Although I thought after last year's playoffs debacle they would step up this year. Nope. Not in Zanelli's world view. Its ironic in the fact that the reason why he left the W-League many years ago was over wonky playoff scheduling. The circle is complete, I guess.

    I haven't checked in on the website too much this year but I found a passage in this release (http://wpsl.info/news/index.php?cat=1&id=2379) about the new Reno team very interesting...

    "The WPSL League features 100 plus teams from across the nation and is the oldest and most consistent venue for top level women’s soccer in America with amateur, collegiate, semi pro and professional players. It is regarded as the essential development league for players hoping to play in the newly formed United Women’s Soccer league (UWS) and eventually the National Women’s Soccer League (NWSL), which is the top professional women’s league in the country."

    The WPSL is a developmental league for UWS? Wow.
     
  12. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    To be fair, we haven't seen any cancellations or sudden shifts of a division between regions like we did last year. And the Breakers thing, as SCF pointed out, was just us misreading an admittedly ambiguous statement. Unless teams/regions drop out last-minute again, I think this year is a step up. Still not great to have teams learn their playoff assignments less than a week beforehand, but not the fiasco of last year either.

    Dang... that's definitely interesting! No similar mentions anywhere else on the site yet, but it might be that the inability to mobilize teams for a revival of WPSL Elite has made the leadership realize WPSL can't support an effective DII league. Would be kinda funny to think that some of the weaker WPSL teams were against a revival of WPSL Elite because they wanted to still claim DII and couldn't if Elite existed between them and NWSL, only to have leadership start calling WPSL as tertiary to UWS anyway. X-D Those teams should've realized they couldn't claim to be DII forever if they weren't going to actually try operating a DII organization!
     
  13. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The Chicago red Stars Reserves are hosting the WPSL Midwest Regionals this Saturday in Oak Brook. I plan to go.
    Does anyone know who the other 3 teams are?
     
  14. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
     
  15. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Thanks.

    So here is a little tid-bit:

    FC Dallas Women are coached by Ben Waldrum, son of Randy Waldrum, who will also be coaching Houston Dash that night in Chicago against the Red Stars. I wonder if Randy will be at the WPSL game?
     
  16. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Reminds of 2011 when the Big Sky playoffs were cancelled entirely due to college players going back to school. Though now my question is this: if this "conference" playoff is just Carolinas vs Southeast, what happened to the Sunshine division? Have they just been preemptively left out as a consequence of backing out last year? (Also: what happened with the Elite Cobras? I'm guessing the lost the divisional playoffs, but the latest article on their website is from before the divisional playoffs, and that Silverbacks thing said Norman beat Oak City in the Carolinas championship despite that being a 2v3 matchup...)
     
  18. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #69 SiberianThunderT, Jul 23, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2016
    Playoff updates I can see on Twitter right now:

    SOUTH: Atlanta Silverbacks Women 2-1 Lake Norman
    WEST: SD SeaLions 2-0 CA Storm
    WEST: Sounders Women 2-0 Beach FC [halftime]
    NORTH: Breakers Reserves 3-0 NYAC
    NORTH: Spirit Reserves v. Penn Fusion TBP
    CENTRAL: Red Stars Reserves 4-0 Dayton Dutch Lions
    CENTRAL: MI Chill v. FCD Women TBP
     
  20. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #70 StarCityFan, Jul 23, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2016
    Sounders Women 2, Beach FC 1.
    Spirit Reserves 3, Penn Fusion 1.
    FCD Women 1, MI Chill 0 (per CRS Tweet).
     
  21. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #71 msilverstein47, Jul 24, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2016
    [​IMG]
    WPSL
    @WPSL

    Western Region Championship game today
    features the @SDSeaLions against the @SoundersWomen.

    2h
    Midwest Conference Championship game today
    features@FCDwomen vs @chicagoredstars reserves at 2:30pm.

    [​IMG] BostonBreakers
    @BostonBreakers

    2h
    TODAY: Breakers Reserves face off against @WSReserves in the@WPSL
    Northeast Championship Final.
    Kick off 4pm in PA.#PathwayToPro #NWSL

    [​IMG] FCDwomen
    @FCDwomen

    14h
    After 4.5 hours we finally have a final! @FCDwomen 1,@chillsoccerWPSL 0
    Next up Chicago Red Star Reserves tomorrow in the final @WPSL

    [​IMG] Silverbacks Women
    @SilverbacksWmn

    19h
    We are off to Columbus for the Final Four!
     
  22. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Gilmoy

    Gilmoy Member+

    Jun 14, 2005
    Pullman, Washington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    San Diego Sea Lions 3-2 Seattle Sounders Women
    14' 1-0 Everett (not on roster page?) (#12 Angelina Hix)
    17' 1-1 #11 Brianna Hooks
    25' 1-2 #12 Kaycie Tillman
    80' 2-2 #19 Rosie Tantillo
    85' 3-2 #12 Angelina Hix (#11 Cassie Callahan)
    FT 3-2.
     
  24. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So who is in the Final Four? Where is it played?
     
  25. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This year's teams are:

    West: San Diego Sea Lions (defeated Sounders Women)
    Central: Chicago Red Stars Reserves (defeated FC Dallas Women)
    South: Atlanta Silverbacks Women (defeated Lake Norman)
    East: Washington Spirit Reserves (defeated Boston Breakers Reserves)

    The final four is in Columbus, OH. Not sure about the semifinals, but the final will definitely be livestreamed.
     

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