BiHPL Downsized?

Discussion in 'Premijer Liga' started by Zeljo Fanatico, Apr 13, 2012.

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  1. Zeljo Fanatico

    Zeljo Fanatico Member+

    Aug 8, 2011
    So I read an article this morning about the possibility of decreasing the amount of teams in the league...

    http://scsport.ba/v2/tekst.php?ID=35656

    Perhaps to 12 clubs like in Croatia and Slovenia?

    What do you guys think are the pros and cons to this idea?
     
  2. Bosnian Diamond

    Bosnian Diamond Member+

    Aug 9, 2011
    Mars
    Club:
    FK Velez
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    I really don't think there wouldd be any cons if we did downsize the Premijer Liga. It would increase the quality of the games, make the teams more competitive, etc. And plus, a country that has financial troubles and a small size such as ours probably shouldn't have 16 teams in a football league anyways.
     
  3. Sarajevsko Pivo

    Sarajevsko Pivo Member+

    Oct 14, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    ^Everything you said.


    We have to save money and I think this is the best way to do it.
     
  4. BH Fanatico

    BH Fanatico Member+

    AC Milan
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Aug 7, 2011
    Seattle
    Club:
    FK Sarajevo
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Do it; and make teams play each other 3 times. 11 teams x3= 33 games.
     
  5. Vitez

    Vitez Member+

    Jan 10, 2011
    Boston
    Club:
    FK Zeljeznicar
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Downsizing would increase the quality of football and make the better teams even stronger. The level of competition would be increased as well.


    This was actually brought up a long time ago and even Ivica Osim suggested something along these lines.
     
  6. TheEuroStick

    TheEuroStick Member+

    Aug 8, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Wouldn't we lose one of the Europa spots then? Isn't there a better chance of getting a 2nd champions league spot with more teams?
     
  7. Vitez

    Vitez Member+

    Jan 10, 2011
    Boston
    Club:
    FK Zeljeznicar
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    No, we wouldn't. We get a set amount no matter how many teams there are in the league.

    When there are fewer teams in the top flight, it increases the quality of the teams left.
     
  8. BH Fanatico

    BH Fanatico Member+

    AC Milan
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Aug 7, 2011
    Seattle
    Club:
    FK Sarajevo
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    The relegation battle would be much more intense.
     
  9. TheEuroStick

    TheEuroStick Member+

    Aug 8, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    If anything cut the teams down to 10 and let them play 4 times
     
  10. Respekt

    Respekt Red Card

    Mar 30, 2012
    Agree with pretty much everything already said here.

    Get rid of teams like Kozara, Slavija, Leotar, and Rudar Prijedor, and we'd have a nice little league full of competition. I'm all for it.
     
  11. TheEuroStick

    TheEuroStick Member+

    Aug 8, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    We should do a carlington cup type of cup were teams from the three leagues can get a chance to play the better teams, to gain experience, if your gonna cut the league by some teams it's only fair to add a benefit if you will punish someone
     
  12. Blue Soldier

    Blue Soldier Member

    Aug 8, 2011
    Club:
    FK Sarajevo
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    (i agree with everything people said already)down sizing the league would be really good for us. 1: saves money
    2: better matches and more quality
     
  13. Bosnian Diamond

    Bosnian Diamond Member+

    Aug 9, 2011
    Mars
    Club:
    FK Velez
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    ^What does it say?
     
  14. TheEuroStick

    TheEuroStick Member+

    Aug 8, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Y u no speak or read Bosnian
     
  15. Zeljo Fanatico

    Zeljo Fanatico Member+

    Aug 8, 2011
    EKSKLUZIVNO: Od sezone 2015/16 Premijer liga BiH sa 12 klubova!


    Iz društva najboljih u sezonama 2013/14 i 2014/15 ispadat će po četiri, a u elitu će ući prvaci entitetskih šampionata


    [​IMG]Sa manjim brojem klubova u PL i kvalitet fudbala bit će bolji
    Ivan Beus za SCsport.ba

    Piše: Bakir Tiro
    21.05.2012 u 16:38 sati.


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    Imamo više prijedloga, ali svi idu u istom smjeru. Od sezone 2015/16 Premijer liga BiH brojat će 12 klubova, istakao je ekskluzivno za SCsport.ba Ivan Beus, predsjednik Radne grupe N/FS BiH za reorganizaciju fudbalskog takmičenja u našoj zemlji i član Komiteta za normalizaciju.

    Način razigravanja i „smiješan“ prijedlog FS RS
    Prema svim danas utvrđenim prijedlozima šampionat će postepeno biti skraćivan. I naredne 2012/13 sezone u našem društvu najboljih igrat će 16 klubova. U sezoni 2013/14 iz lige će ispasti četiri tima, a u elitu će ući po jedan iz Prve lige F BiH i RS. To znači da ćemo u sezoni 2014/15 imati 14 klubova u Premijer ligi BiH, a potom će po istom principu kao godinu ranije iz državnog prvenstva ispasti četiri, a u najviši rang ući dva tima.

    „U sezoni 2015/16 tako ćemo imati ligu od 12 klubova. Ostaje opcija da se igra razigravanje za ispadanje iz Premijer lige BiH u dvije sezone, kako bi klubovima pružili dodatnu šansu da se bore za očuvanje statusa u društvu najboljih. Imat ćemo još jedan sastanak da razradili detalje, pa je možda bolje da o tome detaljnije pričamo nakon našeg narednog skupa“, istakao je Beus za naš portal.

    Kako saznajemo i iz Fudbalskog saveza Republike Srpske zagovarali su da PL BiH od sezone 2015/16 ima 12 klubova, ali da im pripadne određena kvota u šampionatu, odnosno da po automatizmu imaju trećinu ekipa u ligi. Ovaj prijedlog nije naišao na odobravanje, jer je u suprotnosti sa sportskom konvencijom UEFA i neizvodljiv je, pa će se ubuduće pričati samo o eventualnom načinu razigravanju.

    Jedinstvene lige u ženskom i malom fudbalu
    „Danas smo dogovorili da se od sezone 2013/14 igraju jedinstvene lige na državnom teritoriju u malom i ženskom fudbalu“, kazao je Beus za SCsport.ba.

    Nakon posljednjeg sastanka Radne grupe, koji će se održati u narednim danima, jedinstven prijedlog reorganizacije takmičenja bit će upućen prema članovima Skupštine N/FS BiH. Oni bi ga trebali usvojiti na narednom zasjedanju. Beusova Radne grupe dobit će na vremenu, jer će prvobitno zakazano skupštinsko zasjedanje najvjerovatnije biti prolongirano, odnosno neće se održati 7. juna ove godine.

     
  16. Zeljo Fanatico

    Zeljo Fanatico Member+

    Aug 8, 2011
    Another article:

    Tri prijedloga na stolu za reorganizaciju nogometnih takmičenja u BiH

    Piše: E. Škorić
    Danas, 18:15
    Danas je održan sastanak Radne grupe za reorganizaciju Premijer lige i definirana su tri prijedloga i jedan od istih bi mogao biti usvojen. Nijedan još nije usvojen, ali se svi slažu da bi se Premijer liga trebala smanjiti na 12 klubova.
    PREPORUČI
    Prvi prijedlog, koji je predložio Nogometni savez Federacije BiH, je jedini koji je zahvatio i niže rangove takmičenja, a ne samo Premijer ligu. Prema ovom prijedlogu, koji je došao iz Federalnog saveza BiH, u sezoni 2013/14 četiri kluba bi ispala iz Premijer lige, a u idućoj sezoni 2014/11 također bi ispala četiri kluba, pa bi se od sezone 2015/16 Premijer liga igrala sa 12 klubova.

    Pored prijedloga, predloženo je i da se dođe do reorganizacije u prvim ligama, odnosno da iste budu podijeljene na sjevernu i južnu grupu, jednom bi rukovodio Nogometni savez Republike Srpske, drugom Federalni savez.


    Također je predloženo da imamo četiri druge lige, osam po regijama i 16 međuopštinskih.

    Drugi prijedlog je isto da od 2015/16 sezone imamo 12 klubova, ali on bi samo zahvatao Premijer ligu, s tim što bi direktno u sezoni 2013/14 ispala dva, a onda bi 10. 11. 12. i 13. na tabeli igrali mini-ligu (šest kola) i još dva bi ispala iz lige, a bodove bi se iz Premijer lige prenosili u mini ligu. Takav sistem važio bi i za sezonu 2014/15.

    Treći prijedlog dolazi iz Fudbalskog saveza RS, koji se zalaže za Premijer ligu od 12 klubova, ali traže zagarantovana mjesta za svoje klubove. Detaljan prijedlog o tome kako bi oni to uradili, iz RS-a moraju poslati najkasnije do srijede, a glavnu riječ imat će Skupština Nogometnog saveza BiH.

    Današnjem sastanku Radne grupe prisustvovali su Nijaz Brković ispred Nogometnog saveza FBiH, Mirko Milošević ispred Nogometnog saveza RS te odranije članovi ove Radne grupe Ivan Beus, Dragan Kulina, Elmir Pilav, Nihad Hodžić i Milorad Lale.
     
  17. Bosnian Diamond

    Bosnian Diamond Member+

    Aug 9, 2011
    Mars
    Club:
    FK Velez
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    This would obviously be a much better idea for a country as small as ours is. Less teams would mean better competition, better chance for smaller and poorer teams to achieve something, and more interesting Kups. I just can't think of any negatives to an idea like this one. If we were to downsize, which I really hope we do soon, I would say we do it to a size of 12. Obviously keep teams like Zeljo, Sarajevo, Velez, etc.
     
  18. BH Fanatico

    BH Fanatico Member+

    AC Milan
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Aug 7, 2011
    Seattle
    Club:
    FK Sarajevo
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Keep teams that are strong.. Teams like Velez will have to fight to the death to stay in the Premijer Liga. Dear Allah please make this happen.
     
  19. Bosnian Diamond

    Bosnian Diamond Member+

    Aug 9, 2011
    Mars
    Club:
    FK Velez
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Why should we fight to the death to stay?? Even if we down-sized to 10 teams (which I am not sure UEFA even allows), we should stay because we will ninth or better this season.
     
  20. anticule

    anticule Member+

    Feb 17, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    La Liga is looking to downsize too. This would be good for BiH. I don't know sh!t about their league, but it will grow better competition, and players.
     
  21. Zeljo Fanatico

    Zeljo Fanatico Member+

    Aug 8, 2011
    lol what are you doing here anticule? we're all high. get the ******** back to the kafana weirdo.
     
  22. Bosnian Diamond

    Bosnian Diamond Member+

    Aug 9, 2011
    Mars
    Club:
    FK Velez
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    I was too lazy to read the article., that's all. If I wanted to read it I could.
     
  23. Bosnian Diamond

    Bosnian Diamond Member+

    Aug 9, 2011
    Mars
    Club:
    FK Velez
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Anyways, if there were ten teams in the league, these would be the ones I'd choose these clubs to stay ---

    Zeljeznicar (Grbavica - 16,100)
    Sarajevo (Asim Ferhatoic Hase - 35,630)
    Olimpic (Stadion Otoka - 5,000)
    Borac Banja Luka (Gradski Stadion Bnja Luka - 10,500)
    Siroki Brijeg (Pecara Stadion - 5,628)
    Zrinjski Mostar (Bijeli Brijeg Stadion - 25,000)
    Velez Mostar (Vrapcici Stadion - 7,000)
    Celik (Bilino Polje - 15,292)
    Rudar Prijedor (Gradski Stadion - 5,000)
    Zvijezda Gradacac (Banja Lilidza - 5,000)


    There are three requirements for teams to stay in the BiHPL, if I were to choose the rules.

    1. Must have a stadium capacity of at least 5,000 (Travnik ruled out because of this, otherwise would be in).
    2. Must have a shirt sponsor (Sloboda Tuzla ruled out because of this, otherwise would be in).
    3. Every team must have been playing in the league since 2010, meaning they have been in it for at least three years straight.

    A great thing about having a downsized league would be, first of all, that there is more teams in contention for Europa League/Champions League spots and relegation spots. Assuming there is two relegation spots, there would be more than half the teams in either a CL/EL/relegation spot, making every game towards the end of the season very noteworthy. Also, our giants of the league, if you would like to call them that, like Zeljeznicar and Sarajevo, would be getting used to playing tougher teams on consistent basis, so they would likely do better in Europe, as well.
     
  24. BH Fanatico

    BH Fanatico Member+

    AC Milan
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Aug 7, 2011
    Seattle
    Club:
    FK Sarajevo
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    I'm really looking forward to the downsizing for next season.

    We'll have a much more competitive league in terms of number of players out on the pitch, excellent move by our FA.
     

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