USL Expansion General discussion

Discussion in 'USL Expansion' started by mikehurst21, Jan 4, 2016.

  1. mikehurst21

    mikehurst21 Member

    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    United States
    Nov 6, 2013
    Moore Oklahoma
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccer Prime said it was time for a new thread so I started one
     
  2. mikehurst21

    mikehurst21 Member

    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    United States
    Nov 6, 2013
    Moore Oklahoma
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
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  4. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Not sure how credible this is, but

    686298233858068480 is not a valid tweet id
     
  5. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty credible. Been chatting with Keaton for a week or so, team might even be announced in the next month.

    An interesting side note from Robbins. Detroit City FC, AFC Cleveland, and FC Buffalo are all interested in trying to 'go up' together and make the Rust Belt Derby the East Coast version of Cascadia. DCFC would prefer NASL but isn't wedded to the idea, and FCB sees USL as a far more realistic target. USL needs some more East/Midwest teams to balance all the West Coast teams coming on, so this would make a lot of sense. And it puts them in some pretty interesting markets.
     
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  6. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You think a possible San Diego USL squad could temporarily play at Qualcomm?
     
  7. mikehurst21

    mikehurst21 Member

    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    United States
    Nov 6, 2013
    Moore Oklahoma
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AFC Cleveland would provide FC Cincinnati with an in state rival as well
     
  8. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Along with Buffalo vs Rochester & Toronto ... Cleveland vs Pittsburgh ... very interesting group!

    I think the next area would be the Chicago (Fire 2?), Milwaukee, Minnesota (MNU 2) area ... with the long shot of adding Des Moines into that group as well.
     
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  9. mikehurst21

    mikehurst21 Member

    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    United States
    Nov 6, 2013
    Moore Oklahoma
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You could also add Syracuse into that group as well
     
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  10. Flowercitysupporter

    Sep 23, 2015
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    i really dont see buffalo or syracuse getting a team. both cities are an hour from rochester, so id consider them in rochester's soccer market. it would only make sense that all these cities support rochester for pro soccer because rochester-buffalo-cuse support the bills for football and the orange for basketball
     
  11. Flowercitysupporter

    Sep 23, 2015
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    nwsl team wny flash operate in the buffalo burbs but go to rochester to play...and might move their offices to rochester... if the stadium gets the big upgrade thats needed and been talked about i see that happening
     
  12. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very cool. Hopefully just a prelude to an MLS attempt. Someone get them in touch with John Moores if they're not already.

    Not likely. A USL crowd would be swallowed whole in Qualcomm. But they could play at USD's Torero Stadium short term, should USD be amenable. And long term hopefully MLS would be their goal along with SDSU football at a new stadium in Mission Valley. And the smaller stadium could work better for USL too (being planned somewhere in the 30k range) compared to the current 70k Qualcomm Stadium. Unless they have their own plans.
     
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  13. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LD denied it, so I am guessing not very credible.

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  14. ChinaBlue

    ChinaBlue Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Silverbacks aren’t done as a soccer franchise

    While the Atlanta Silverbacks no longer exist as an NASL franchise, the Atlanta Silverbacks playing in another league is likely.

    Boris Jerkunica, who owns the Silverbacks name, said he and partners John Latham and John Hardin are considering starting a men’s team in the United Soccer League or continuing the team that is in National Premier Soccer League. Its roster is currently composed of reserves players on the Silverbacks team (the reserves would be dropped from the NPSL team’s name). There are also ongoing discussions about starting a women’s team in the Women’s Premier Soccer League.
     
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  15. mikehurst21

    mikehurst21 Member

    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    United States
    Nov 6, 2013
    Moore Oklahoma
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I wouldn't put a lot of stock into the Silverbacks joining the USL . In the article Jerkunica seems uninformed and uneducated about the league they most likely will stay in the NPSL
     
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  16. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No way USL approves a non-ATLUTD club unless there's some arrangement beforehand.
     
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  17. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They probably should have said PDL instead of USL in all honesty.
     
  18. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. Flowercitysupporter

    Sep 23, 2015
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
  20. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the rule is 90 miles but I remember Syracuse got a exemption (did they pay Rochester some money?) Buffalo is a little closer to Rochester than Syracuse but I would think that Rochester would welcome another close rivial
     
  21. Flowercitysupporter

    Sep 23, 2015
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    cuse got an exception? what does that mean? I dont think they are getting a professional outdoor team. i do think/know the cuse silverknights (indoor professional) are putting together a NPSL side, but in recent news the Rochester Rhinos have a new agreement with the Syracuse Development Academy (the best youth club in cuse)

    http://www.syracusedevelopmentacade...-affiliate-with-syracuse-development-academy/
     
  22. Flowercitysupporter

    Sep 23, 2015
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Ive always said/thought that if Rochester/buffalo/syracuse cities can support the Rochester Rhinos, like the 3 cities support the buffalo bills and syracuse basketball, this market can not only be big enough for mls but really help mls. the buffalo metro/rochester metro/cuse metro is about 3 million people

    3 mls team in California, two in LA and one in NorCal. NY could be the same 2 in NYC and 1 upstate/WNY
     
  23. mikehurst21

    mikehurst21 Member

    Oklahoma City Energy FC
    United States
    Nov 6, 2013
    Moore Oklahoma
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That doesn't make any sense because it's only 80 miles between Oklahoma City and Tulsa and you can't tell me that there is 90 miles between Orange County and Carson California. It's only 100 miles between Louisville and Cincinnati. If there is distance requirement they are going to miss out on some prime locations to put clubs as well as some terrific rivalries. The population of Syracuse is almost 200,000 but its much more if you extend it north to th Canadian border because you would pick up towns like Watertown,Black River,the Army Base. You would even pick up thousand Islands. It would not have any effect on Rochester's territory. The population of Buffalo proper is about 300,000 it has alright with the other sports teams it has (exception: maybe the Bills). The triple A baseball teams in Rochester,Syracuse,and Buffalo have proven that the 3 cities have proven that they can have teams coexist within the same league and be successful. Honestly you guys should do a little research and you will see that I'm right
     
  24. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Albany is actually a bigger metro area than Syracuse. Albany is 880k and Syracuse is 660k. Buffalo and Rochester are 1-1.1m a piece.
     
  25. Flowercitysupporter

    Sep 23, 2015
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    It wouldnt be a rivalry anytime soon. People in this area support buffalo teams (bills, sabres) so putting a soccer team in buffalo wouldnt strike up a rivalry like one would think because of the distance. If you wear bills gear in rochester and youll be greated with "lets go buffalo". its just my opinion but i feel like the two teams would be fighting for the same fans. the bills advertise in rochester and it looks like the rhinos will do the same with buffalo and syracuse. David Dworkin the new owner keeps saying the Rochester Rhinos will be Western New York's team and venue and the news above shows a quick step to do so. Look at NWSL we have the WNY Flash. again, just all my opinion on the subject.
     

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