2015-2016 Breakers offseason

Discussion in 'Boston Breakers' started by pressurecooker, Aug 4, 2015.

  1. pressurecooker

    Feb 22, 2009
    Boston
    Club:
    Boston Breakers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the Breakers facing mathematical elimination in the next few days it seems a good time to start thinking about the offseason.

    First, Tom Durkin has to go. Any coach that doesn't win more than 25% of his games over 2 seasons, whose team has let up more goals than any other in franchise history, and whose offense struggles to score goals needs to be replaced. He is supposed to be a great developer of young talent but I haven't really seen that bear fruit yet and the team strategy on defending set pieces has looked pedestrian at best.

    Lee Billard should stay. For improving the stadium situation, building the strongest academy program in the league, taking full advantage of the World Cup to drive the Breakers brand forward in the Boston community and building political connections at the city and state levels. There are several improvements to be made with the game day experience and he should bring in a new coach with a similar mindset of a Laura Harvey who can manage a roster from top to bottom at the highest level. Looking at the big picture, while there is room for improvement I believe Lee has done a solid job this year.

    Will talk players later.
     
  2. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    As I said before:
    He's done a good job with the non-roster related things. But the roster is not quality enough, it's really unrealistic to expect Durkin, let alone anyone, to put that roster in the playoffs. It's a bit of a cliché, but they need to build a team with a solid spine. Kallman is a good start, but King is not impressive at CB (IMHO, even Wood is better. King's alright as an outside back though). Schoepfer is not a DM. None of the Brazilians have stepped up to be that #10/CAM that the team needs. Their MF is just so weak; everything ends up going through Mewis, which makes it fairly easy to defend.
     
  3. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    who picked the players?

    that person needs to go.
     
  4. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    The GM is ultimately responsible for the players on the team.
     
  5. New Engalnd Nellie

    Mar 6, 2008
    I have no particular axe to grind with Billiard and don't know what he deserves credit for and what blame he deserves. However, I DO know Lee Billiard did not build the academy program. Breakers bought (merged with, whatever) the Scorpions which was already an ECNL Club which boasted the Mewis sisters among others (Meehan twins now at BC eg) as their alums. Scorpions was one of the top two clubs for girls in Massachusetts (both eventually became ECNL clubs) during the early 2000's through 2011 or 2012 while Billiard coached at what was a distant third or lower club (MPS). So you can give him credit for the merger/acquisition but the Scorpions now Breakers program was built by others (and in decline when acquired.) He may have improved it since it was acquired after the downturn; I honestly don't know. Scorpions now Breakers was built primarily by Coach Fred Marks - an infamous coach in Massachusetts - not Billiard.
     
  6. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Then you should learn what the GM is... The GM is the one responsible for player personnel. Sure, scouts and coaches can advise, but as I said, he is ultimately responsible for all those decisions. Do I need to remind you off all the bad trades he's made? All the draft picks wasted? Additionally, he is the one responsible for firing Lisa Cole and the subsequent hiring of Tom Durkin. If he's done all that, and you're perfectly happy with his results, then how on earth can you want Durkin fired and not be perfectly satisfied with finishing in last place?
     
  7. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    the team is the worst thing about the breakers. isn't it?

    whoever built it should not continue in the employ of the owner.

    no?
     
  8. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
  9. New Engalnd Nellie

    Mar 6, 2008
    I was neither defending nor criticizing Billiard. Nor did I say Durkin should be fired. I was responding to Pressurecooker giving Billiard credit for building an Academy. Honestly I don't like to discuss people's careers here. I should have just stayed out of it rather than feeling the need to clarify.
     
  10. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Well, saying you don't have an axe to grind means you have nothing to complain about. Which would imply you are happy (well maybe happy is too strong, but at least satisfied) with his results. So, I was merely pointing out things to complain about. His job is GM. We know what the GM's primary responsibility is by definition and he has not been doing a good job of that.

    Sorry, I just assumed you agreed with the majority of Boston fans (as evidenced in that poll) who think Durkin is the main problem.
     
  11. pressurecooker

    Feb 22, 2009
    Boston
    Club:
    Boston Breakers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I stand corrected, I forgot that most of the structure was pre-existing. I should've said he brought the academy program under the Breakers organization. From what I have seen the academy teams have performed consistently well since coming under the Breakers umbrella.
     
  12. WiminzSoccerRocks

    Jun 15, 2009
    MA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can anyone make sense of the trade the Breakers did yesterday? We gave away Lianne Sanderson for a player to be named later? Sound familiar? Didn't we do the same with Leroux? We need some (inter)national caliber talent on this team. It is painful to watch. I love how hard the Breakers play but when the other team has more players who are quicker, more skilled and more creative in their play, hard work doesn't cut it.

    Remember the days when we had Maren Meinert, Angela, Lil, Lesley? It's also striking the number of players who are standouts in the league who cycled through Boston- like Keelin Winters.
     
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  13. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    No, they traded her for a draft pick. That's different than a player to be named later, as that would imply it's someone currently on the Seattle Reign roster. But it will be someone who graduates from college this school year.

    No. This trade was a 1 for 1. Sanderson for 1 Draft Pick. The Leroux trade was a 4 for 1 trade, that got turned into a 5 for 1 after trading Betos to Portland, but then to 4.5 to 1 after trading for McCaffrey.

    This is how it worked out:
    from Bostonfrom Seattlefrom Portlandfrom WNYfrom Draftfrom Chicago
    LerouxMewis
    Betos2014 4th RoundKimberly DeCesare
    2015 2nd RoundJamia Fields
    2015 1st RoundStephanie McCaffrey
    2015 2nd Round
    2015 2nd RoundAmy Barczuk


    When you look at all that they got for Leroux, the Sanderson trade looks downright awful.
     
  14. pressurecooker

    Feb 22, 2009
    Boston
    Club:
    Boston Breakers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #14 pressurecooker, Aug 8, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2015
    Well you know I am all about stealing your thunder.

    In most scenarios I agree with you, but one thing I don't think has been considered is the possibility of the Breakers having an ownership group that is more focused on being profitable than competitive. This could limit the options that a GM has to bring in and keep elite players and could be a contributing factor to the Breakers demise in the past 3 years. There is something or someone who is chasing and keeping all the elite players out of Boston and I am having a hard time pinning it all on Lee because he did put that 2012 WPSL Elite roster together. And 2013 was a good roster as well, which likely would have done better if not for Mitts' sudden retirement. Lee has certainly made mistakes but I am looking at the bad influence of Durkin or the possibility of penny pinching owners as contributing factors here.
     
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  15. socfandan

    socfandan Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    Eastern Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good points made. Bottom line, there is something not clicking with this organization. Whether it warrants individual or more likely collective blame, it isn't acceptable or explainable on the surface.

    I get that "they" are on a "3 year plan" to develop both on and off the field but for the most part it strikes me as being more excuse than plan.
     
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  16. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Well see, the thing is when you have difficulty bringing in elite players what you have to do is get the promising young players in the draft. You look at their move for McCaffrey, and while sure she's a promising player, they gave up what would be Daniel Colaprico and Sophia Huerta for her. And then when Boston finally did draft they picked Jamia Fields who they didn't even sign out of camp and she ended up going to WNY. Their next pick was Samantha Lofton. Would it surprise you to know she's not on the team either? And their next pick was Bianca Brinson. Also not with the team. It isn't until you get to the 4th round that the Breakers actually drafted someone who made the team. :confused: This was one of the deepest drafts in WoSo history and Boston was #2 in the draft order. And all they got out of it was McCaffrey and Stephanie Verdoia. That's not how you do it.
     
  17. RUfan

    RUfan Member

    Dec 11, 2004
    NJ
    Club:
    Sky Blue FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Boston had 6 picks in each of the past 2 drafts (including McCaffrey this year). In total half were on their opening day rosters their rookie season, including the 2 this year. Of the 4 in '14, three are still with the team. That is total of 5 picks for the past 2 drafts still with the team. McCaffrey and Pathman ('14) have played all games this year and started all but 2. GK Kranich has been the sub for Naeher. But Ezurika the first round pick in '14 has played 11 games this year, starting 3, and Verdonia has played in 7 games, starting one. So only one starter from each of the past 2 drafts.

    PS- Boston got Marlborough and Kallman in the O'Reilly trade to KC. Kallman has started every game this year and Marlborough played 15, starting 8 and scoring 3 games. O'Reilly has scored 2 goals in her 7 games at KC. Not a bad trade considering O'Reilly asked to be traded.
     
  18. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Yeah, I actually think that's the best trade they've done (The Leroux trade was 2nd best). But the funny thing is that they traded away their 1st round draft pick to KC, which KC would use to draft Kallman, for Courtney Jones and KC's first round pick. So the net trade result is that they got KC's first round pick (that they used for Ezurike), Jones, and Marlborough for O'Reilly. Which doesn't look as good a deal, especially since Jones retired, but it's still not horrible.
     
  19. socfandan

    socfandan Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    Eastern Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/aug/27/nwsl-womens-soccer-world-cup-usa


    This article has been posted in other threads, but as it relates to Boston.

    WARNING- CONTAINS MASSIVE UNDERSTATEMENTS

    "Needing Intervention
    How bad does a team need to get before looking for a major overhaul? That is the question the Boston Breakers will need to answer before next season. The Breakers have won just four games in 19 this season. Perhaps worse, they more often than not haven’t even looked competitive in games.

    The glaring culprit is their defense. They’ve allowed a whopping 42 goals in 19 games. That is the most in the league by a margin of 12 and cause for some lopsided, demoralizing score lines like their 3-1 loss to the Reign on Wednesday.

    Boston’s scoring record is average – three teams have been worse at finding the back of the net than the Breakers and most the teams that are better at scoring are only marginally so. That makes the defense’s stats all the more concerning.

    If not the defense, the spotlight may fall on Tom Durkin’s record since taking over in 2014. The Breakers fired their previous coach, Lisa Cole, in the middle of the inaugural NWSL season, at the time saying it was necessary as the team pushed to reach the playoffs. But the team’s performance has been worse under Durkin, who has a winning percentage is .270 to date compared to Cole’s .425 during her shortened season.

    The Breakers have at times appeared to be on the losing ends of transfer deals, particularly an usual one this month where Boston sent English forward Lianne Sanderson to Portland, but Seattle served as the middleman and gave less to Boston than they got from Portland. Boston will need to be a bit more shrewd if they hope to pull off the sort of transformation Harvey did."
     
  20. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Well, that's shorter and easier to say/type than "Soldiers Field Soccer and Lacrosse Stadium." So I'm all for it. (Though would still rather see the Breakers play at Ohiri Field)
     
  22. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. socfandan

    socfandan Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    Eastern Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "“An immediate search for a new head coach has started,” Billiard said “It is important we get this right as we have great ambitions in the coming years."

    Uh huh.
     
  24. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    The fact that Durkin remains working for the team is just sad. He should've been unceremoniously fired months ago. You have to wonder what is up with the ownership when they're happy to let Billiard continue to run this train wreck.
     
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  25. pressurecooker

    Feb 22, 2009
    Boston
    Club:
    Boston Breakers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is brutal. I have always thought that it limits the applicant pool for a job if you keep an old ineffective manager in place within the organization because who wants to be looking over your shoulder all the time. I have a feeling this is what will occur here as well and their options will be limited in finding a suitable replacement to turn this organization around.

    I don't understand this organization at all. You unceremoniously fire a coach mid season for falling out of playoff contention in her 2nd season. Then replace her with a coach on a whim who destroys a competitive roster within 1 offseason, leads them to the worst 2 seasons in franchise history and now rather than fire him put him in charge of developing roster talent. I don't understand why Durkin was brought into this organization initially and why he is now being protected. The dude is a disaster.
     

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