2015 Season- Player Moves

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by BlueCrimson, Apr 10, 2015.

  1. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. FawcettFan14

    FawcettFan14 Member+

    Mar 19, 2004
    Colorado
    She's trying to create drama where there is none.
     
  3. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  4. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Could still be retiring, but that almost sounds like pregnancy, then...
     
  5. mamalia

    mamalia Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Cincinnati OH US
    But it could still be the school announcement. This is the time of year..
     
  6. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    True but that does explain how that prevents a "healthy" Buehler from playing if she is on the bench.
     
  7. mamalia

    mamalia Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Cincinnati OH US
    Sorry, was she on the bench - I didn't check. I'm thinking med school definitely is not in Portland.
     
  8. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
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    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    I remember seeing her in the lists of subs so yes she was on the bench
     
  9. mamalia

    mamalia Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Cincinnati OH US
    Thanks! Guess we'll know the deal, soon.
     
  10. RUfan

    RUfan Member

    Dec 11, 2004
    NJ
    Club:
    Sky Blue FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    She was on the bench and was warming up with the others on the sidelines at SB game Sat. night.
     
  11. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. mamalia

    mamalia Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Cincinnati OH US
    Med school = UCSD. Will see if she can participate in any more Thorns games, depending on schedule and med school demands (haha... of course she did do pre-med at Stanford, so maybe she has enough brain power to pull off an extracurricular like pro soccer).
     
  13. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Should be interesting to see what the Thorns do.

    Tuesday, Sept. 1, 2015 Roster Freeze Date

    Keep a very good CB who costs you $0 (or the cost of a R/T ticket from San Diego), but who can't practice or be counted on as available (and probably won't be available for a midweek NWSL final match). Or get a cheap replacement before the roster freeze date.
     
  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had missed that happening, so it's good to document things. I wondered when this was going to happen. A useful tool for attracting some of the best players in the world.

     
  15. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. Sawedoff

    Sawedoff Member

    Washington Spirit
    United States
    Aug 9, 2015
    Virginia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, at least she gets a paycheck.
     
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  18. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #343 SiberianThunderT, Oct 8, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2015
    Before we lock this thread, can someone help me compile a list of all international players to have been on a gameday roster this season? I notice that Huerta and Roche haven't been added to the NWSL Foreign Players wiki article yet, and I wanted to have a complete list before I started editing.

    =edit=
    Huerta, Roche, Kur, Waldus, Sanderson...
     
  19. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Boston: Ketlen, Rafinha, Bia, Kyah Simon
    Chicago: Abby Erceg, Adriana Leon, Karina LeBlanc, Melissa Tancredi
    Houston: Rachael Axon, Stephanie Roche, Camila, Andressa, Ellie Brush, Erin McLeod, Allysha Chapman
    KC: None (first team to win a pro championship in the US without a single international on its roster)
    Portland: Ayo Anonma, Stephanie Catley, Kaylyn Kyle, Clare Polkinghorne, Lianne Sanderson, Christine Sinclair, Jodie Taylor, Rhian Wilkinson
    Seattle: Rachel Corsie, Jess Fishlock, Kim Little, Katrine Veje
    SkyBlue: Jonelle Filigno, Caitlin Foord, Sam Kerr, Nadia Nadim, Maruschka Waldus
    Washington: Estefania Banini, Josephine Chukwunonye, Laura Del Rio, Diana Matheson, Ngozi Okobi, Fran Ordega, Hayley Raso
    WNY: Lady Andrade, Halimatu Ayinde, Sabrina D'Angelo, Michelle Heyman, Camilla Kur, Ajara Nchout

    I know I'm probably missing one or two, but this is my list of internationals that were on rosters this year. And players like Huerta don't count, since technically they're not internationals.
     
  20. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Thanks!
    Huerta counts for the qualifications on the Foreign Players page since she has dual citizenship and has been capped by Mexico - just friendlies, but still capped.

    I mean, Fishlock now has a green card and won't count as an international, but she's definitely still a "foreign" player. It's a bit more of a stretch for Huerta, but you have to define "foreign" somehow and she fits the definition of "foreign" used.
     
  21. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    #346 holden, Oct 8, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2015
    I'd agree there. A player born and raised in the US that went to US college shouldn't be considered foreign just because they have caps for a different NT. Especially when they are not cap tied to that different NT.

    And that's something very different. A green card just means that you have permanent residence and a right to work. It is not citizenship.

    What exactly is that definition? From what I can tell from what's been stated so far, Sydney Leroux should be considered foreign because she played for the Canadian YNT. Perhaps it's the term "foreign" that is the problem and that should be reconsidered to instead be something like "Non USWNT eligible players"... though then Huerta would still not be on the list.
     
  22. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #347 SiberianThunderT, Oct 8, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2015
    I never said it was - my point was to state that counting as an "international player" by NWSL roster rules shouldn't be the same as being a "foreign player" in the "general knowledge" definition Wiki uses.
    The definition the page uses is:
    • have been on the roster for the NWSL club(s) listed, not counting preseason.
    • have not been capped by the U.S. national team on any level/have been capped by a team other than the U.S. national team.
    • were born outside the U.S./have citizenship outside the U.S.
    Leroux does not qualify for either option of the second bullet point. (She was never capped by the senior CanWNT.) Huerta, OTOH, was capped by the senior MexWNT.

    I'm not saying I agree with the definition the page uses, but that's where it stands. FWIW, most everything under
    Category:Lists of expatriate association football players
    allows for players born in the country of the applicable league but are capped for other NTs. (And "foreign" is the word almost all of the lists use.)
     
  23. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    The 2nd bullet point doesn't say "have been capped by a team other than the U.S. national team at the senior level"... So therefore Leroux would qualify.

    Like I said in response to BlueCrimson, it's one thing if a US born player is cap tied to a foreign national team. It's another when that player is not, even if there have been caps at the senior level. Perhaps maybe as a compromise, you could list Huerta with an asterisk saying that she is still eligible for the USWNT?
     
  24. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    True, but considering the first half of the bullet goes out of its way to include all levels while the second half doesn't, I think it's implied senior team for the second half.

    Again, if you go to any of the other "foreign players" articles, they do state "any level" for the league's national teams, but don't specify for other NTs. You rarely talk about youth teams unless you need to - that's true of any soccer discussion.
     
  25. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    #350 holden, Oct 8, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2015
    I don't think it's so simple to say it's specifically one or the other. It could be argued that it's a continuation of the same context from the first half of the statement since no effort was made to distinguish it in the 2nd half. It's not like adding the clarification "at the senior level" to the sentence is so unwieldy, if that was the intention.

    (And I'm not saying any of this is your fault, I'm saying maybe they need to come up with a better definition throughout Wikipedia)
     

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