Julian Green (Bayern Munich): In-N-Out: Julian Green on loan at Hamburger SV

HSV decided against signing Halilovic on loan, as they can't promise him the playing time, Barca want him to have. https://t.co/SjZzF268gJ

— Daniel Busch (@dan_bu) August 13, 2015

 

well, they couldve done the same with green.

 

Yeah, sounds like a lesson learned.

 

I think this is some kind of message to Vidal, as in there can be "no excuses" for wearing pink cleats.

 

Yeah, I guess Bayern management has little experience with this loan stuff. An organization can't be expected to learn it all in it's first 115 years of existence.

 

Your hyper-defensive sarcasm adds nothing to this discussion.

After all, it's obvious to everyone that Green's situation last year shouldn't have sunk into acrimony. Either expectations weren't set properly in advance or else they weren't delivered upon. I'm not blaming Bayern or any individual, but Bayern being 115 years old has nothing to do with it. Even at excellent organizations, sometimes people drop the ball.

 

If Julian Green ate more burgers maybe he wouldn't be playing 4th division soccer!!!

 

I'm pretty sure the poster was referring to Hamburg learning their lesson of not taking dev projects on loan if they can't guarantee playing time...

 

What club can guarantee playing time for a development project? Especially in first division there is too much for a club to risk. I'm sure Hamburg would have been delighted to play JG if they thought it would improve results. I suppose a club loaning out a player could incentivise by reducing the cost of the loan with the amount of time played but even then the money pales compared to where a club winds up in the table.

 

That smurf puke is Thousand Islands dressing,flatlander.
Run along and let the adults talk abut food.

 

Yeah, 115 years of existence is proof of current management brilliance. Which is why Notts County is such a worldwide powerhouse...

 

I would eat it every day if my wife let me. Sometimes I get two double doubles.

 

As it is, clubs like Bayern and Hamburg know quite well the pros and cons of loans of players including those who are working their way up from reserves. Clubs who are loaning out a player they value highly are going to be pickier and make greater demands on the club they send the player to.

 

Perhaps, but reality shows that simply being a "storied" club doesn't give anyone a corner on business or sports smarts. Heck, if age was all you needed one of the munich teams wouldn't be such a mess. Which doesn't specifically address either of the deals at hand but the "they've been doing this for 100 years" is kind of like you brokers "past success does not guarantee future returns..."

 

Sure, past performance doesn't guarantee future results. My point is who exactly had the lesson learned here? Was it Hamburg because they didn't play Julian Green but now don't take a player on loan from Barca because of their demands for guarantees on playing time? I don't know what the lesson would be as they probably wouldn't have taken Julian either if Bayern demanded playing time guarantees. Was Bayern the one who had a lesson learned? It surely wasn't their first loan of a player that didn't result in much playing time. No doubt they were disappointed with Hamburg but I have to believe they were also a bit disappointed with Julian to not make a case for himself even with the coaching change. Was a lesson learned by Julian? I don't know but he certainly wasn't anxious to go back out on loan again which I think is a bit unfortunate. While it seems he is in a nice situation training at Bayern the reality is that he is under very little pressure as his chances of achieving first time minutes of significance seems pretty low.

Julian's Dad described him when a child as someone who was pretty stubborn about doing things his own way at his own pace and it is hard to argue that hasn't worked for him so far. I am just a little skeptical but I guess we will know more in a couple years.

 

Agree completely there wasn't much in the way of lessons learned, save the age old adage: "Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't. You never know until you try."

Hamburg and Bayern are not spending too much time studying the lessons of Green. Whether Green is or not is another question.

 

It's the Julian Green Derby today!

 

Will he switch jerseys at the half?

 

Who?

This is the Bigsoccer Burger thread



We recently got shake shack here in ATL. Its a bit overrated but the Shackmeister burger (top left) and cheese fries are pretty bomb

 

He'll switch benches. Or reserve teams. Or doghouses.

 

looks pale

 

No idea how reputable this source is, but apparently Green is no longer training with the first team.

http://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de...ren.f2dc8bb1-7766-41f0-8bcc-7d05aa732fa6.html

 

As reputable as the New York Daily News. But they normally have their facts right cause they know the right sources.

 

Do you mean this weblink?

Youngster Trio must back to the amateurs [August 20, 2015 @ 10:18 CEDT (4:18AM EDT)] <You need to use Google Translate>
http://m.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/i...uren.f2dc8bb1-7766-41f0-8bcc-7d05aa732fa6.php

The excerpt (It translated from German to English by Google Translate):

"This came as a surprise." - Gianluca Gaudino, Sinan Kurt and Julian Green may no longer work with the professionals from now on and are now firmly back in the amateurs.

Munich - The competition at Bayern calls first victim. The young Nachwuchskicker Gaudino (18), Kurt (19) and Green (20) are again an integral part of amateur teams and may now no longer train with the professionals. A shock not only for the players. Father Maurizio Gaudino kicker sports magazine: "That came as a surprise and you have to digest now plans were different, it was agreed that he trained up..."

 

Isn't that extremely odd that they sent all three of them back down? Gaudino is pretty good, as well as Kurt. I just don't get it.